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Pokémon the Series XY | Pokémon the Series XY&Z

Daniel31

HopingGaryReturns
I find it hilarious that there was apparently no room for fillers in XY&Z and yet they bothered to include one of the worst filler episodes in Pokemon history, the Binacle episode, prior the very Master Class competition instead of going for a transition episode and fleshing out the Master Class.

Or how the pre-League episode was the random inventions episode.

Literally two bad fillers before big competitions.

If they dropped these two fillers and replaced them with build-up episodes, both the League and Master Class would have been less rushed and more fleshed out.
Sigh...why must you remind of us of the horrible Binacle episode, I had it blocked out of my mind entirely before I read this. I agree with what you say though, Master Class definitely could've used 1 more episode, maybe then we would've had time to actually see Aria's performance.

Anakin Skywalker isn't supposed to beat the Protagonist... he loses to obi wan right
If only Ash would've had the high ground.
 

Navin

MALDREAD
This all makes sense now:

[IMG300]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/5/5d/Alain's_furious_eyes.png/revision/latest?cb=20151116140705[/IMG300]


[IMG300]http://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Hayden-Christensen-in-Star-Wars-Revenge-of-the-Sith.jpg[/IMG300]
 

AshSerena

Well-Known Member
The interview is not only that just saying , I think it's gonna take a lot of time for Dephender to translate it all so I just send him some interesting part of the interview (IMO) , thanks Dephender for doing translation for that :))

(Btw the interview has 11 pages including storyboard)
 
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Epicocity

Well-Known Member
I find it hilarious that there was apparently no room for fillers in XY&Z and yet they bothered to include one of the worst filler episodes in Pokemon history, the Binacle episode, prior the very Master Class competition instead of going for a transition episode and fleshing out the Master Class.

Or how the pre-League episode was the random inventions episode.

Literally two bad fillers before big competitions.

If they dropped these two fillers and replaced them with build-up episodes, both the League and Master Class would have been less rushed and more fleshed out.

You know, I don't disagree with the episode before the League but...the Binacle episode isn't quite as dismissive as one would think. It offered two important plot points: Xerosic experimenting on Z2 and Squishy watching humans and Pokemon working together, both things playing into the future. Could they have put it in another episode? Maybe. But we can't exactly dismiss it out of hand. If you still want the 3-episode structure, XYZ 21 would have been the better one to remove, because that had nothing to it but a reliance on Bonnie's gag (even if it was fun).
 

Soniman

Break the Limit
I think getting rid of the phantump episode would've been better since it came smack dab in the middle of the greninja arc
 

Epicocity

Well-Known Member
I think getting rid of the phantump episode would've been better since it came smack dab in the middle of the greninja arc

I'd agree, but I was talking simply on the two episodes surrounding the Master Class. But yeah...that Phantump episode was really just shoving Phantump into an episode and nothing more...
 

AuraChannelerChris

Easygoing Luxray.
This all makes sense now:

[IMG300]http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/5/5d/Alain's_furious_eyes.png/revision/latest?cb=20151116140705[/IMG300]


[IMG300]http://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Hayden-Christensen-in-Star-Wars-Revenge-of-the-Sith.jpg[/IMG300]

And then when he shows up, he's all smiles. I found that pretty jarring, myself.

...

Good god, these animators are pretty good at making nightmare faces.
 
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Frozocrone

Miraculous!
Its also occurred to me that Alain Skywalker ended the dreams of many children

The comparisons are too real
 

Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
Im surprised the interviewer didn't ask why Ash lost the Kalos League despite the supposed build up.
 

Spider-Phoenix

#ChespinGang
I'll just toss this in here:

Various interesting tidbits from the recent interview with Yajima:
*The kiss scene is indeed meant to be Serena kissing Satoshi, and his reaction to it is surprised awe, any ambiguity the scene has is so they could get it on TV in the first place.
*Likewise, you're meant to hope and assume the two of them are going to become a couple later.
*The idea to have a romance subplot apparently came from producer Shukichi Kanda, who came up with the idea of portraying things through a female lead's admiration for Satoshi, which then led to the suggestion that they'd have a flashback to a childhood meeting with romantic implications.
*Yajima did not know exactly how long the series would last, only that it would have to end when the next games came out.
*Alan was always meant to be part of the main series. The reason the four Mega specials were made was because it would be difficult to set up his backstory and development in the series itself, so he came up with the idea of giving him his own episodes that could establish his character. The idea to give these episodes a mega evolution theme came later, and was also his idea (so they were not made for the purpose of marketing megas, or in order to test the water for a series with another main character or any other such theory).
*Also, Alan is meant to be an "Anakin Skywalker-type character", someone who turns to the dark side to protect those he loves.
*Satoshi's XY design was primarily Yajima's, and the idea for his sideburns were taken from "a character from the video games named Red, which Satoshi is based on".
*Yajima wanted to make the bond between Satoshi and Gekkouga a major part of the story, but felt it would be difficult to do so if it had to remain a Gekkouga, so he went to Game Freak, and they came up with the idea of a synchro transformation. It was put in Sun/Moon afterwards, but was created during this discussion between anime staff and GF.
*The interviewer notes that Okido didn't appear at all outside of episode 3, and that Okido's lecture segment getting replaced with PokeTV when XY&Z started meant that Okido didn't appear at all throughout all of XY&Z (the interview was conducted before XY&Z47 had aired) and asks if there was a reason for this. Yajima confirms this was a complete oversight, not something intentional. Presumably this goes for other callbacks to older series as well.
*When XY&Z started, Yajima knew that the series had to wrap up everything in only a year, and they did a meeting to basically set up how the events of that year would go. He also specifically says that this is the reason there's minimal filler in XY&Z, there was absolutely no room.
*Yajima wanted to drop the use of stock footage completely, but this wasn't possible to do, so they went with creating stock foreground footage that could have different backgrounds added to it instead.

The interview is not only that just saying , I think it's gonna take a lot of time for Dephender to translate it all so I just send him some interesting part of the interview (IMO) , thanks Dephender for doing translation for that :))

(Btw the interview has 11 pages including storyboard)

Where did this interview come from? A book? A magazine? TV show? Con?

If it came from a piece of merchandise, I'd like to purchase it. Could you help me, please?

Clearly Ash was meant to be Luke (and Alain was secret Ash's father all along)

You know, before Act II, I had come up with this theory. But then I read around here he's supposed to be around 17 then it all fall flat lol
 

AshSerena

Well-Known Member
Where did this interview come from? A book? A magazine? TV show? Con?

If it came from a piece of merchandise, I'd like to purchase it. Could you help me, please?




You know, before Act II, I had come up with this theory. But then I read around here he's supposed to be around 17 then it all fall flat lol

it is called アニメスタイル010 that release dec 27, i bought mine from amazon.jp but I'm not sure if they are shipping this outside japan, i have some foreign friends on twitter and they said they know a site where they can buy this
i leave the link in just case, (Jp)
https://www.amazon.co.jp/アニメスタイル010...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483435762&sr=1-1
 

UltimateNinja

Praying for the holy relics
I find it hilarious that there was apparently no room for fillers in XY&Z and yet they bothered to include one of the worst filler episodes in Pokemon history, the Binacle episode, prior the very Master Class competition instead of going for a transition episode and fleshing out the Master Class.

Or how the pre-League episode was the random inventions episode.

Literally two bad fillers before big competitions.

If they dropped these two fillers and replaced them with build-up episodes, both the League and Master Class would have been less rushed and more fleshed out.

Probably because they needed some more time to write the important events, so they had to do those fillers. XYZ was already full packed in a way one year wasn't enough. Build up episodes would've been better, but then they would've had less time to do the important part of the arcs. Them writing some decent build up episodes happens after they scripted the main parts.

The problem here was not doing fillers right before the tournaments, but the pacing of the fillers and their distribution. At the beginning of XYZ there were 3 fillers in a row. Instead they should've done one filler and the save the others for the future. They probably have done that because they wanted weeks of time in advance to write the later episodes, but the series catched up and had less time and especially less episodes to write those episodes decently -> league was rushed for a better evil team plot. That's what I think happened.
 

AuraChannelerChris

Easygoing Luxray.
*The kiss scene is indeed meant to be Serena kissing Satoshi, and his reaction to it is surprised awe, any ambiguity the scene has is so they could get it on TV in the first place.

So young Japanese children hardly get to see kisses fully shown in their shows?

*Likewise, you're meant to hope and assume the two of them are going to become a couple later.

Waaaaaaaay to full their shippers, man.

*The idea to have a romance subplot apparently came from producer Shukichi Kanda, who came up with the idea of portraying things through a female lead's admiration for Satoshi, which then led to the suggestion that they'd have a flashback to a childhood meeting with romantic implications.

Ironically, I found that to be the most romantic thing they did besides the kiss. Unfortunately, the fact Ash makes the relationship so one-sided didn't give me anything to root for Serena.

*Yajima did not know exactly how long the series would last, only that it would have to end when the next games came out.

Isn't this normally how they operate every generation, anyway?

*Also, Alan is meant to be an "Anakin Skywalker-type character", someone who turns to the dark side to protect those he loves.

Didn't Anakin keep being a major evil threat with no redeeming qualities who died in the end.

Sorry, Mairin. He also loves his Charizard.

*Satoshi's XY design was primarily Yajima's, and the idea for his sideburns were taken from "a character from the video games named Red, which Satoshi is based on".

Makes me wonder why is Ash's skin, er, brown?

*Yajima wanted to make the bond between Satoshi and Gekkouga a major part of the story, but felt it would be difficult to do so if it had to remain a Gekkouga, so he went to Game Freak, and they came up with the idea of a synchro transformation. It was put in Sun/Moon afterwards, but was created during this discussion between anime staff and GF.

I really don't think they didn't have to go this far. Ash had shown said bond very well with Charizard and Infernape.

The only major difference here is that they wanted to make Greninja be able to compete(?) against everyone tossing Mega Evolutions left and right, and if they had made Ash use a Mega Evolution on the side, it would have surely sidelined Greninja and use the taboo known as...CONTINUITY! (That and I think having a third Charizard around would've been overkill, or a second Sceptile, if those two picks would've been chosen. Well, Charizard sidelined the Unova team already. Ha ha).

*When XY&Z started, Yajima knew that the series had to wrap up everything in only a year, and they did a meeting to basically set up how the events of that year would go. He also specifically says that this is the reason there's minimal filler in XY&Z, there was absolutely no room.

And we get a strange episode of lock-picking focused on...a Binacle, not a Klefki. And then that strange Animal Planet-like episode in Litleo and the very tame Phantump episode.

*Yajima wanted to drop the use of stock footage completely, but this wasn't possible to do, so they went with creating stock foreground footage that could have different backgrounds added to it instead.

Eh.
 

Soniman

Break the Limit
Wow Klefki never did get an episode to itself, all it got was being a signature Pokemon for showcase announcer guy.

Come to think of it I don't think Spritzee's evolution got any spotlight either, you think for such small dex they would have easily have been able to give every mon a episode
 

Janovy

Banned
Honedge would have been perfect for Ash.

Given how much XY portrayed him as a hero, a sword and a shield of his own would have been perfect.
 
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