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Pokemon Anime - Shounen or Kodomo?

Soniman

Break the Limit
I've seen people appreciate XY's more serious and standard "shounen" attempts (anime for preteen boys) at story telling (strong protag, serious story attempts and moments in general) and others deride it (more gender roles, fanservicey moments, etc). Others appreciate BW and it's more comedic, lighthearted nature, less trying to be dramatic and more fun and casual so basically a kodomo (anime for kids)

Just to be clear this isn't a XY vs BW topic, more like which genre would you rather see the anime take samples from more going forward into SM and future series?
 
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U.N. Owen

In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night ...
I'd go for shounen, but for the love of all that is lovable, don't simply play every trope in the book straight. As for the humor, I'd be fine with humor. Dramatic moments need to be softened by humor or else the audience will feel too apathetic to it.
 

Pokegirl Fan~

Golden Queen
I guess shounen, but only if they put more effort into the writing.
 

Darkness Angel

Lover of Fate-Chan
Would like to go with shounen as I think it would be better that way.
 

Red and Blue

Well-Known Member
Still a Kodomo to me. The Pokemon anime is nowhere near as Shounen as anime such as HxH, Naruto, One Piece or Fairy Tail. Plus Shounen are aimed at teenagers and the anime is still obviously for 6-12 year olds
 

Gillachu

Banned
The anime is more kodomo than shonen. It's the kind of thing that kindergarteners in Japan watch and older fans are the minority of the viewership demographic I bet...
 

Crystal

The Pokemon Observer
As a matter of fact, within Japanese native animation industry, Pokemon Anime is deemed officially as kodomo anime.
However, personally within my eyes and brain, IMO Pokemon Anime specifically the current XY saga, it feels too shounen-like to be consider as a kodomo anime.

In Japan, kodomo anime is differ from shounen anime in a few aspects, as they are made with the mindset of targeted to and intended to be watch by pre-schooler children. 1) Line-art of the animation are simple, meaning it will not take too much time or effort for animator to draw a picture, hence there is an aesthetics simplicity in its graphics, which shall be ease to watch for the eyes of the young. 2) Colours of high contrast are often being used, which it shall stands out more in the eyes of the young compare to pictures consists mainly of colours of low contrast. 3) Generically no complicated plot nor sophisticated characters, as their actions and reactions need to be simple enough to be understand by young children. Overall world-building thus are also often very shallow, and often lacking characters dynamics. 4) The most important part. Despite that it may not have complicated plot nor sophisticated characters, it needs to function as a form of emotional eduction teaching children morals and ethics of the world and nourish their sentiment, hence being an edutainment. Because of that, good and evil within kodomo anime is plain and simple being strictly black and white, don't even hope for any much grey area in between. 5) No violence and no bleeding, no killing and no emotional "vanishing", no boots and butts and panties, no fan services nor tiny sexual innuendo, no feeling of lethal danger nor sense of critical emergency. Combining with 4), the conflicts and battle within kodomo anime will thus be heavily tone down where a fight is not a fight, but competition or "correcting the evilness", no one will hurt at the end of the day.

Regardless of the themes and genre and quality of the animation and sound/VA, because Pokemon Anime matches with all the criteria as describe in above, it is unfortunately a kodomo anime, whether one dislike such categorizing or not.

Yet, as I had said in the beginning, personally IMO, Pokemon Anime especially in the XY saga, it is too shounen-like to be deemed as a kodomo anime.
It is due to its animation quality and sound/VA quality, also the intensity of battles within this series, and ME Special OVA. For a show of intended to be watch just by the pre-schooler young children, IMO it felt like a deplorable waste of budget on upgrading things that are from the very beginning not needed in kodomo anime. If TPCi was indeed wanting to cater the Pokemon Anime more into the shounen demographic, then in fact it needs a complete overhaul and revamp.


Edit: It is quite interesting seeing quite many fans deemed Pokemon Anime as a shounen anime rather than kodomo anime. So that is the "image" Pokemon Anime given out to the public. I see Pokemon Anime is certainly incompetent in its own publicity marketing.
 
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JudySpell

Banned
Kodomo based on the show's childish idea of humor & Ash's lack of tangible progress which feels like a gag at this point.
 
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thor94

Well-Known Member
yep more kodomo than shounen.
ash would be a complete failure and insult to all shounen main characters
 

satoshigekkouga

Well-Known Member
What's up with the weeb terms?

It's a mix of a both. Shoudomo. Koounen.

DP and XY feel more like shounen, while BW felt more like kodomo.

Totally agree with this. Personally i'd like the actual plot line to lean more towards shounen, while giving the fillers a kodomo feel. I think they're striking a really good balance between both at the moment, especially for XY&Z. XYZ21 and XYZ22 had me cracking up, but XYZ23 ended on a more serious note.
 

Aduro

Mt.BtlMaster
Komodo, the story is structured like a show aimed at under 12s in XY. Team rocket still has their childish motto and blasts predictably off after almost every episode, Ash is still 10 and the anime's purpose is still to promote a franchise which first targets a child audience first and foremost. Most episodes seem to be parables with basic morals like hard work or sensitivity paying off. Even if the messages don't make sense sometimes theyre meant for kids. Not to mention pretty much every DVD seems to be PG or U.
 
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