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Pokemon Arena Round 4

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FlareBlitz3000

Legg University QB
Roserade @ Life Orb
Modest nature
Technician
252 SpAtk 252 Spe 4 HP
-Magical Leaf
-Sleep Powder
-Sludge Bomb
-HP Fire

Infernape @ Life Orb
Jolly Nature
Iron Fist
252 Atk / 4 Sp.Def / 252 Spd
-Clase Combat
-Flare Blitz
-ThunderPunch
-Mach Punch

252+ SpA Life Orb Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Infernape: 269-317 (91.8 - 108.1%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
It ain't 70% so it's cool

252 Atk Life Orb Infernape Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 619-733 (236.2 - 279.7%) -- COMPLETE OBLITERATION

The one true wrecker himself just came through, hide your children.
 
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too bad there's a self-ko clause so that doesn't work :$

For Roserade,

Heatran @ Choice Band
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Fire Fang
- Iron Head
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
 

KillerDraco

Well-Known Member
too bad there's a self-ko clause so that doesn't work :$

It also doesn't work because it wasn't a 70% chance to win; it's only a 50% chance to win. People forget that sometimes.

Suicune @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Pressure
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
-Waterfall
-Bulldoze
-Avalanche
-Iron Head

Get rekt BandTran.
 
Roserade for ubers pls. two straight Pokemon couldnt kill her.

Luxray @ Air Balloon
Adamant Nature
Intimidate
252 HP 252 Atk 4 Spe
-Wild Charge
-Crunch
-Super Power
-Iron Tail
 

KillerDraco

Well-Known Member
Roserade for ubers pls. two straight Pokemon couldnt kill her.

But Heatran beat her, and Heatran is overpowered, so clearly Heatran for Ubers.

Rotom-C @ Choice Specs
Modest Nature
Levitate
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Leaf Storm
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball
-Hidden Power Ice

252+ Atk Luxray Superpower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Rotom-C: 128-151 (52.8 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Luxray Crunch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Rotom-C: 85-101 (35.1 - 41.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-C Leaf Storm vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Luxray: 364-430 (100 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

Murder Doll

Button Presser
Talonflame @ Life Orb (it's awful so sue me)
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Gale Wings
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP
-Brave Bird
-Flare Blitz
-Roost
-U-turn

Behold why Roserade will never have nice things
 

Psynergy

Strong Winds
Staff member
Super Mod
Corsola @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Regenerator
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpDef
- Scald
- Power Gem
- Recover
- Toxic

This was relevant elsewhere, so this can't have been a coincidence.

Brave Bird has about a 10% chance of getting a 4HKO at best.
 
HOLD UP!

252+ SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Talonflame: 213-252 (71.4 - 84.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Life Orb recoil+recoil from whatever attack it uses will lead to Talonflame's demise, violating Self-KO Clause.

how to counter roserade :$


Heatran @ Choice Band
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
Adamant Nature
- Fire Fang
- Iron Head
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

I had to hack Showdown to make this thing more manageable
 

KillerDraco

Well-Known Member
Well, as much as I'd love to throw BandCune at BandTran again,I think we need to break the Roserade -> Heatran -> Suicune cycle.

So! To that end...

Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Bold Nature
Storm Drain
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
-Scald
-Earth Power
-Toxic
-Recover

Sorry BandTran.

It'll still get countered by Roserade but at least it's not the same three Pokemon cycle this way
 

Psynergy

Strong Winds
Staff member
Super Mod
Making my effective use of Corsola irrelevant, I see how it is.

Maractus @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Water Absorb
252 HP / 252 Att / 4 SpDef
- Petal Blizzard
- Knock Off
- Drain Punch
- Bounce

Wood Hammer is lame. Petal Blizzard is the physical Grass STAB of champions.
 
Roserade @ flying reduce berry
Modest nature
Technician
252 SpAtk 252 Spe 4 HP
-Magical Leaf
-Sleep Powder
-Sludge Bomb
-HP Fire

Roserade beats all
 

KillerDraco

Well-Known Member
Except this.

Magmortar @ Life Orb
Timid Nature
Vital Spirit
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Fire Blast
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Ice

252+ SpA Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Magmortar: 165-195 (56.5 - 66.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Life Orb Magmortar Fire Blast vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Roserade: 439-517 (167.5 - 197.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Outspeeds and wins.
 

IrieFuse

Unify To Thrive
Roserade @ flying reduce berry
Modest nature
Technician
252 SpAtk 252 Spe 4 HP
-Magical Leaf
-Sleep Powder
-Sludge Bomb
-HP Fire

Roserade beats all

Espeon @ Assault Vest
Modest Nature
Magic Bounce
252 HP 4 SpA 252 Spe
-Psyshock
-Psychic
-Dazzling Gleam
-Shadow Ball


magmortar'd
 
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Creeper

om nom nom
Lanturn @ Assault Vest
Volt Absorb
Calm Nature
252 HP / 252 SAtk / 6 SDef
- Hydro Pump
- Thunderbolt
- Scald
- Hidden Power [Grass]
 
Roserade @ Life Orb
Modest nature
Technician
252 SpAtk 252 Spe 4 HP
-Magical Leaf
-Sleep Powder
-Sludge Bomb
-HP Fire

Roserade beats all. Seriously. Five sets on a page she has countered.
 

KillerDraco

Well-Known Member
To be fair, most of them have been water/grass types. Its track record vs. fire types has been less than stellar.

Espeon @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
Magic Bounce
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Psyshock
-Shadow Ball
-Dazzling Gleam
-Calm Mind

252+ SpA Life Orb Roserade Sludge Bomb vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Espeon: 214-253 (78.6 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Espeon Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Roserade: 372-440 (141.9 - 167.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It also loses to this thing.
 
Well, I have opted for HP fire instead of Rock, but ehh.

Bisharp @ Assault Vest
Adamant Nature
Defiant
252 Atk 4 Def 252 Spe
-Sucker Punch
-Knock Off
-Low Kick
-Iron Head
 

KillerDraco

Well-Known Member
Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
Adamant Nature
Guts
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef
-Drain Punch
-Mach Punch
-Ice Punch
-Knock Off

Assault Vest; who wore it better?
 

IrieFuse

Unify To Thrive
Skarmory @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Sturdy
252 HP 252 Atk 4 Def
-Brave Bird
-Night Slash
-Rock Slide
-Steel Wing

252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 448-576 (117.8 - 139.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Skarmory: 106-126 (31.7 - 37.7%) -- 90% chance to 3HKO
 
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