Pokemon Black and White General Discussion

[Ememew]

The chances of Kyurem getting an "upgrade" to truly be a counterpart to Reshiram and Zekrom is almost inevitable considering its type, moveset learn levels, etc. But still, I'm wondering if they could both upgrade Kyurem AND not have it as the cover Pokemon of Grey.

Hear me out. I know it's unlikely, but they could have Kyurem get a new form and make it part of the story and everything, but not have it be a cover Pokemon (to avoid spoiling it's new forme). Instead, Cobalion/Keldeo could serve as the cover Pokemon (and also play a story role). Cobalion would be the more likely of the two for obvious reasons (Keldeo's an event for now).
The Musketeers' story is closely related to the plot of Pokemon/human interaction and protecting Pokemon from humans. When you reach Cobalion in the cave, the old man tells you that you could be the one to change the Legend's mind about humans, so this is strongly related to the Plasma plot.
Cobalion is the leader of the "trio," and stands apart both by having a different classification than the others (Iron Will, as opposed to the habitat related Savanna and Cavern), and by being the key that unlocks the other two.
Keldeo is only mentioned because it's the first numerically of the "unrevealed/event" Pokemon (other than the obvious Victini). It could be a "third-version exclusive" placed as an "event" until the third game (so it's still compatible with Black and White). Being the first of the unrevealed Pokemon would allow it to not leave a blank spot in the Dex if it was encountered in the third version.

Again, Kyurem is much more likely, but it would be neat to see them do this just to mess with fans' heads . . . I mean . . . do something unexpected.

 

[Ruskittlez]

Forgive me, I dunno if this is more for the confirmed info or help thread, but can anyone tell me is the DSi features for Black/White would also work w/ the 3DS? I am tempted to get a 3DS to play the game, but would need to trade in the DSi to afford it (Gamestop gives a trade-in discount). otherwise i'd keep the DSi until 3DS exclusive games come or I have more money lol.

I am playing white on my 3ds as I type this.

 

[djkkdcb25]

dose anyone no when pokemon-gl is going to come out

 

[BCVM22]

http://en.pokemon-gl.com/pre/en.html

This is where everyone will find out when they do set a release date. No one knows what you don't - by and large, we all get our information from the same place, ultimately.

 

[Blackjack the Titan]

I kinda agree with Ememew. It would be cool to see Cobalion (a Trio Pokémon) be the spotlight in Pokémon Grey. I battled with it though, and was pretty dissappointed to make it faint (well I did save before meeting it but left the cave and saved at a Pokecenter. Yep, FML)
Then that old man told me about awaking the other two. And I thought, "What a great idea for either a new game or a fanfic!"
But of course the cover pokemon always has to be a legendary dragon.

 

[Porygandrew]

But of course the cover pokemon always has to be a legendary dragon.

Why?


and on that note, I do wish that Chrome will expand on the sword-trio. If they are supposed to have protected pokemon from humans, then why wouldn't N try to enlist their help? It would be very interesting if he encountered them but they refused to help (humans and pokemon coexist peacefully) or are aggressive towards him (Team Plasma abusing pokemon).

 

[R_N]

N was really against the idea of using Pokemon at all, it was a "miracle" that he got Reshiram/Zekrom at all. And despite his wonky ideals, he generally wanted to avoid straight up violence which is what the Trio wanted to do.

What I do want to see, is if the trio was involved with the Challenger's Cave.
There's mention of there being a legendary Pokemon within it that was training its students, but, of course, there are no legendaries in the cave. Only some strong Pokemon, strong trainers, and a nice TM.
I'm sure there's something they can do with it.

 

[BCVM22]

Why?

Do you not agree that these third counterparts - Rayquaza, Giratina, Kyurem - exist for a reason, on a conceptual level? So that the cover of the eventual third game ties in better with the first two, and they don't have to somewhat awkwardly take the cover Pokémon from an unrelated trio as they did with Suicune and Crystal?

 

[GaZsTiC]

Chrome

Black, white and chrome.

...

Something doesn't sound right.

 

[Sabonea_Masukippa]

Black, White and Cobalt. Kyurem and Cobalion on the cover! Everyone wins!

Or Brown and have Stunfisk and Landoros there.

 

[RedMage23]

Black, white and chrome.

Say "Chrome" all Japanese-like.

OMG IT SOUNDS LIKE KYUREMU.

But seriously, I've seen very solid arguments for the third game being Chrome. After all, Platinum in no way logically follows Diamond and Pearl, and the same goes for Crystal to Gold and Silver (It almost seems like they should be switched).

 

[Chaos Rush]

Do you not agree that these third counterparts - Rayquaza, Giratina, Kyurem - exist for a reason, on a conceptual level? So that the cover of the eventual third game ties in better with the first two, and they don't have to somewhat awkwardly take the cover Pokémon from an unrelated trio as they did with Suicune and Crystal?

On a side note I'd like to add that according to this interview, Gold & Silver were meant to be the last Pokemon games, which explains why they did not create a third counterpart for Ho-oh and Lugia.

 

[Sabonea_Masukippa]

Say "Chrome" all Japanese-like.

OMG IT SOUNDS LIKE KYUREMU.

But seriously, I've seen very solid arguments for the third game being Chrome. After all, Platinum in no way logically follows Diamond and Pearl, and the same goes for Crystal to Gold and Silver (It almost seems like they should be switched).

クローム　kuroomu [Chrome]
キュレム　kyuremu [Kyurem]

Eh, not that similar.

But コバルト Kobaruto [Cobalt]

I like the ring to that.

On a side note I'd like to add that according to this interview, Gold & Silver were meant to be the last Pokemon games, which explains why they did not create a third counterpart for Ho-oh and Lugia.

So that's why there's no cats in Johto.

 

[RedMage23]

In my opinion, the only set of Pokemon that actually holds well on its own is the third generation. The second gen "completes" the first gen, while the 4th gen is sort of a reconciliation of the first three. The 5th gen is probably the second closest to being a "complete" set, but to me it seems like they purposely made it open for a sixth gen.

 

[Porygandrew]

But コバルト Kobaruto [Cobalt]

You just made me think of a metallic kabuto XD

IF they decide to choose Cobalon over Kyurem, I would be very happy.

 

[Blackjack the Titan]

Chrome sounds like a game I wanna get. Screw Grey/Gray. Isn't the color Cobalt a Silverish-Blue?

 

[BCVM22]

Isn't the color Cobalt a Silverish-Blue?

Cobalion is basically cobalt-hued.

 

[LexSuicune]

Black, White and Cobalt. Kyurem and Cobalion on the cover! Everyone wins!

Or Brown and have Stunfisk and Landoros there.

Pokemon Brown belongs to Bidoof.

 

[Blackjack the Titan]

While we're all hoping for the third installment to be called Cobalt, Satoshi Tajiri has told Gamefreak,
"Okay this is what we're gonna do for the third installment for Black and White."
"Uh, Satoshi-san sir. What will the third installment be called?"
"Grey, duh!"

 

[Silent Conversation]

When did it suddenly go from everybody knowing it would be Grey to everybody assuming it was going to be Cobalt? I mean, I don't think Cobalt fits. Black and White are dull, very basic colours, and adding a more interesting (for like of a better word) colour to the series just wouldn't really fit in.