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Pokemon Black and White Speculation/Wishlist

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rocky505

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IMO the final evo's show me that they are fake. The first 2 stages of Tsutarja's line both have arm's and legs but then it's final evo has not a single appendage that is too suspicious and Pokabu's final evo look's like an offspring of rhyperior and grumpig. Mijumaru's final evo has no connection whats so ever to it's first 2 stages.
 

Hejiru

Rev up those fryers
IMO the final evo's show me that they are fake. The first 2 stages of Tsutarja's line both have arm's and legs but then it's final evo has not a single appendage that is too suspicious and Pokabu's final evo look's like an offspring of rhyperior and grumpig. Mijumaru's final evo has no connection whats so ever to it's first 2 stages.

Well many people predicted Tsutarja losing its limbs in its final stage, seeing how it's a snake and all. I could see the final Tsutarja stage being real. The other two, not so much. The Pokabu evos are horribly ugly, and the Mijumaru one is such a vast jump. It looks nothing like the first two forms. o_O I never expected Miju to go quadruped. And I thought that we'd finally have a non-bipedal fire starter. Charizard, Typhlosion, Blaziken, and Infernape. And now this Pig/Wrestler/Rhyperior/Ganon atrocity will be, if indeed it is real.
 

megachu17

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It isn't real. It's ironic how you're on the forums of a site you don't look at.

"However we don't know for sure yet and he provided no evidence so I'll keep them up but as probable fake, just in case."

Yea, people who are on forums of sites they don't look at for more than a few seconds are stupid...
 

rocky505

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It isn't real. It's ironic how you're on the forums of a site you don't look at.
I think you mean it is ironic how YOU do not look on the main site. The evo's are not posted in the fake section and Serebii said they could be fake he has not confirmed them fake. No one knows if they are fake.
 

squrtle

Dance with the Enemy
I think you mean it is ironic how YOU do not look on the main site. The evo's are not posted in the fake section and Serebii said they could be fake he has not confirmed them fake. No one knows if they are fake.
that bit was there before the artist confirmed it was fake. try remembering. and serebii didnt add planta or baby gigaisu to the fakes either. theyre still fake.
 

rocky505

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Please show me where it says that they are confirmed fake then. Serebii and PJ neither one have said it was confirmed fake (Although PJ fell for a troll's comment saying that he made them)
 

squrtle

Dance with the Enemy
quote from serebii.

"Seems the user confessed the starter evos are a fake. Sorry to disappoint but with the IP resolving previous leaks, it just made sense to post despite the fact they were iffy."
 

rocky505

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quote from serebii.

"Seems the user confessed the starter evos are a fake. Sorry to disappoint but with the IP resolving previous leaks, it just made sense to post despite the fact they were iffy."
You did not read the last sentence did you. probable-likely to exist, occur, or be true, although evidence is insufficient to prove or predict it. It is not confirmed fake!
 

kemal07

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Oh just great, just when I felt releived that they were fake now its considered that theres no proof that they're fake.
 

Hydrohs

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But right now it's at 12 Pokemon wide, which is 720 pixels. I won't go any wider than that, for fear of making that annoying effect where the browser window stretches.

I seriously hope no one has a resolution of 800x600 any more. You should be fine for making it wider if need be, the only people who should really be running into issues nowadays are netbook users. But I'm sure they're used to it.

IMO the final evo's show me that they are fake. The first 2 stages of Tsutarja's line both have arm's and legs but then it's final evo has not a single appendage that is too suspicious

It's not really that suspicious.

that bit was there before the artist confirmed it was fake. try remembering. and serebii didnt add planta or baby gigaisu to the fakes either. theyre still fake.

Actually it wasn't there before.

quote from serebii.

"Seems the user confessed the starter evos are a fake. Sorry to disappoint but with the IP resolving previous leaks, it just made sense to post despite the fact they were iffy."

Keep reading.
 
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arceus7

Arcane Of The Wild
ohh great, pokabu's second evo is just AWFUL it looks like they took the design for the crazy fat scientist from lilo and stich and pokabufied it, its not supposed to be
FatMcFubbychub, that is one fuggly uggly mon dude. How do people even like that fat piece of rotten meat?? I MEAN COME ON ITS TOO FAT!The final evo is okay I guess, its like they combined rypheriors arms and body with magmortars then pokabufied it at the edges

why do we have to go around about way of saying they are fake.
tsutaja's evo is okay but mijumaru's evo is weird but I like the pokemon's design
just somebody confirm it as fake.
 

gliscor&yanmega

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So we have a new Pokemon with a happy face huh :), I could dig it.

No but seriously, if that's it's face I may just have to go on a hunt to defeat as many as I can. Although, I'm sure it's just a decoration.
 

R_N

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I'm confident in them being fake if only because a huge deal is being made about Miju wielding its shell like a blade in its hands.
Miju3 doesn't even have the same shell-shape that Mijus 1 & 2 have. The Shell Blade animation even has the Mijus' shell in it.
 
Happy face Pokemon! Just like this!
Hey, it's not impossible it's not a mask. Combee kinda looks like a Smiley face Pokemon... well, three smiley faces.

The relief that spread throughout my whole body when Serebii updated with "They are almost certainly fakes" was unbelievable. Those were too crap to be true. I hated 3/4 of the newly revealed ones, with the Tsutaja final evo being the only one that even resembled something good. And let me tell you now, I NEVER use grass. So thank you for telling us you faked them, random dude. Made my day.

Ok then, item number one: I want lots of mention of most main series games in either B/W or games to come.
Firstly, I'd like to battle the four Professors. That would be brilliant. You'd fight them all after the elite four. Like Heatran I suppose. I actually want a couple of these side stories. They're pretty good actually.

Arargi calls you to say that as she trusts you and you're strong and all of that (just to make you feel awesome) she wants you (as well as Cheren and Belle) to come and visit her for something urgent. She says to also bring your strongest Pokemon.
When you get to her lab you see the five professors huddled around an egg. when they see you, they disperse, and Arargi says it's a momentus find. She says it's an ultra rare legendary (A Normal/Ghost type), and the first one out of the three of you to defeat all the professors may have the egg. You face them in any Random Order, with Arargi last.

Oak
Pokemon
Venusaur
Charizard
Blastoise
Raichu
Dragonite
Pigeot

Elm
Pokemon
Meganium
Typhlosion
Feraligatr
Amparos
Tyranitar
Scizor

Birch
Pokemon
Sceptile
Blaziken
Swampert
Mightyena
Slaking
Salamence

Rowan
Pokemon
Torterra
Infernape
Empoleon
Garchomp
Staraptor
Luxray

Arargi
Pokemon
Tsatuja final evo
Pokabu final evo
Mijimaru final evo
Chilarmy final evo
Mamepato final evo
Kibago final evo- probably Ononokusu

That's the references for the main series, although there should be more (a couple of school kids who "worship" Oak, The Daycare Man and Lady say that they've met Elm lots of times due to his fascination with eggs, After you beat Plasma a Main character say that they are worse than team Aqua and Magma put together, and Team Plasma's boss, as he is about to resurrect Reshi/Zekky says that after doing this we will then control Time, Space, and maybe reality afterwards thanks to Dialga, Palkia and Arceus.)

Moving on, then somewhere there is a mention of Mystery dungeon. Maybe a Character similar to Dusknoir (This could possibly be "N")? Nice, but it's an illusion and he's actually underneath a real evil guy. How about he steals your starter? He uses it to battle you along with his other Pokemon and you beat him and he "accidentally" drops the Pokeball while running off. Then there could be a Grovyle- a bad character at first, who turns out to be acting for the best actually.

Next, we move on to Ranger. This is easier. You can easily put in some Rangers who are in Isshu doing their daily job. One of them mentions Hastings, the other the Ranger Union, etc...

Next moving on to Collosseum and XD. These are tricky to do, but can be done. You can have some of the trainer classes from Collosseum and XD in Isshu, and these can all mention moving to Isshu from Orre, or at least some of them.

Finally, SSBB. I want a triple battle with Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard. I also think it would be fantastic that all the starters have a move that says "An attack that does massive damage. It only works when three Pokemon with the Abilities Overgrow, Blaze and Torrent are in battle."
So basically Triple finish. It's normal type.
Secondly, the moves Aura sight and Aura Storm. Aura Storm is a Special elemental beam, like Hydro Pump, Overheat and Leaf Storm. Only Lucario will be able to learn it. Aura sight is a move that Guarantees a critical hit the next turn, and the move is also guaranteed to strike first and never miss. But the turn after that, it's back to normal.

Trainer Customisation- You can choose your trainer class at the start, and then edit hair colour, clothes etc...

Pokemon Acessories- These need to be revamped. I think we need new acessories, ones suited to individual Pokemon that don't look stupid and disproportionate when Pokemon wear them. Or at least if you use the same acessory, there's a button that says "fit to Pokemon". And I also want these acessories to be visible in battle. After all, Ash's Treecko has its grass thing all the time! This would help to make Pokemon seem like different characters with different personalities, because at the moment the only thing making them seem different is Level, Gender and Nature.

Hms- There should be a little animation type thing for all of these. For example, when a Scyther uses cut, it should show the Cut tree in a really cool bit of art from a different perspective to overworld in proper neat deatil, as if a caterpie was watching from behind or in front. It should show the animation of scyther chopping up the tree. The same for Fly and Surf and stuff. You getting on the Pokemon, it flying above the clouds. The Pokemon jumping into the sea, you jumping on the Pokemon. These should also be able to be switched off in the options menu, just like the "battle scene" option.

NOT making HMs use up a valuable move slot
Basically, there should be a new "HM" slot for a designated HM move. In this slot there will be a move already there, such as "Water Field Move" and when the Pokemon gets to a certain Level or you obtain a certain badge, all of the Water Pokemon you own obtain "Water Field Move 2". From then on any Pokemon you catch should have the Move the rest of the Pokemon have. They should also make more obstacles like in Ranger.

I'm going to refer to Field Moves as "FM"s with the initial for the type in front
Kangaskan
NFM BASE - Roar - this will do the opposite to Sweet Scent, acting like a Repel.
NFM 1 - Headbutt
NFM 2 - Strength
NFM 3 - Ride (Basically using the Pokemon to ride on instead of a bike. My idea is that you should be able to cycle AND ride on Pokemon.)

Making each trainer an individual- Because Let's face it, since when have two people that weren't twins looked that alike just because they were interested in the same thing. They'd look different. So I want different hair, different eye colour, and different colour clothes. Recolours are easy. Gamefreak know this.

Different "paths" after the Elite 4- This is something I have wanted for ages. To do my idea, I want a nice, REALLY long side quest. You go to the aeroport post E4, and there is a Pilot there who said he crash landed and that his plane lost loads of parts all over Ishhu. You then run around madly looking for parts, and during this, loads of side quests appear, one for each part (lets say there's about seven parts). Rare Pokemon appear on each of these side quests (all non-legendaries). These Pokemon return to the spot where you met them for a chance to catch them on a certain day of the week (like Drifloon). And each week a new one appears.
You also unlock stuff from each of these Missions. One of them, for example, is a Daycare Mission. You then unlock the ability to be a Daycare Breeder for a little while, until you chose to stop. These Mini-game things are like a whole new adventure story, and you can start with new Pokemon entirely if you wish, entering breeding contests etc...
Another of the seven adventures takes place with a Musical Person, for example, and you can become a Co-ordinator. You dress the Pokemon up, they do the musical, and then you fight the Musical head guy, which you cannot do if you are just a regular trainer. There are also extra accessories only available in this game mode.
To stop these entirely new adventures, you simply return to the person you met on your earlier mission, the person who allows you to "become" the new type of trainer. They will ask you if you want to revert and you can say Yes or No. You can then return to you adventure game any time you wish.

There's actually Pokemon in this place!- Hoenn put in Pokemon cries on some routes, and that was pretty cool. But I think that quite regularly in the grass, Pokemon overworlds should jump up, walk around a little then pop back down again, all the while whilst making their cry.

Things to return from HGSS
Pokemon Folowing you like in HGSS- That was a really cool improvement, and I also think that any acessories that you do put on Pokemon should be visible in overworld situations. Also if you have a Pokemon that can swim following you from behind when you surf, it should be able to. For example, if you had a Poliwag in the first slot and goldeen in the second slot and goldeen knew Surf, then you'd swim on the Goldeen with the Poliwag following from behind. This feature can be turned on and off at will.

The touch screen- So all the cool touch screen USE, especially the two key items. I also want a new battle thing happening here. Probably won't happen in B/W, especially seeing as we have already seen the move selection, but I think there should be no move selection. Instead, you should be able to keep all the moves you already have. Each move has a certain symbol on the touch screen, like in Guardian Signs with the Pokemon. When you do the certain symbol, it does the move. Each symbol is different enough that there isn't a mistake

Araragi- There's not a lot of speculation on her. She has a Chiramii and is the first female professor. But I do have two things to say. All professors have a specific thing they research. I think that Araragi will research diet. I hope that you get to face her in battle as well.

Makomo- Not a great deal on her either. I just want to say here that I like the new Wifi things.

Rivals- I said back in THIS post, before the Rivals had been announced, that I wanted three rivals and I wanted an Antagonist, a Nice guy/girl and a "Geek". I kind of got that. I haven't got the Nice Guy/Girl, instead I got Belle. But I did get Cheren, who can be seen as a Geek.

Belle
She doesn't seem like the typical nice guy/girl, simply because "she's unreliable". However, I doubt she's evil and she seems like a nice trainer. I still think her party when you battle her will be the same sort of thing as what I mentioned in the post. Cute or "Girly" Pokemon. There will be two or three cute Pokemon, which she will not evolve fully, such as Happiny, Jigglypuff, Pachirisu. Then she'll have the Girlish Pokemon that are fully evolved, such as Blissey, Rapidash and the Starter. (Which in my case will most likely be Pokabu, although might be Tsatuja.) Her Pokemon will be very good at Defence (Minus the Starter) and will love to heal themselves.

Cheren
I LOVE this guy. He seems so cool. He's the slightly geeky friend you have who's good with knowledge, and is also the cool, clever master battler who is a gym challenger. I reckon his team will consist of attacking, non uber Pokemon such as Kangaskan, Bibarel, Magmortar, Electivire, the Starter (Will be Tsatuja in my case/Mijumaru maybe) and Togekiss.

"N"
I have thought a lot about "N". I hope he isn't involved with Team Plasma, but I have to admit that the evidence is a bit overwhelming. We'll see. His team will probably consist of some Pokemon that emanate "cool" or are really strong like Garchomp, Wooguru, Meguroko's evolution, Lucario, Blaziken, etc...

Starters
Tsutaja [Snivy- Snake and Ivy] (Grass) ---> [Elevy- Electric and Ivy] Bigger Version (Like the picture) (Grass/Electric) ---> [Cobrunda- Cobra and thunda] Big Green Cobra with muscly legs and arms. Cobra-like pattern on chest. (Grass/Electric)
Pokabu [Piglit/Ashlit- Pig and lit and Ash and lit] (Fire) ---> [Floink- Flame and Oink] Two legs. Looks a little like Grumpig, except thinner. And orange of course. (Fire) ---> [Boarferno- Boar and Inferno] A Bulky, four legged Boar. (Fire/Ground)
Mijumaru [Soakub- soak and cub] (Water) ---> [Aquotter- Aqua and Otter] Two legs. Like the Picture we saw. (Water/Fighting) ---> [Ottorent/Dojotter- Otter and torrent and Dojo and otter] Thin, tall otter with boxing gloves the shape of the shell on Mijumaru (Water/Fighting)

Other Pokemon
Chiramii [Chillarmy-Chinchilla and army] (Normal)---> [Mililla [Military and chinchilla] A bigger version of Chiramii. Possible has an army helmet. (Normal/Fire) OR (More likely) ---> [Charmchilla- Charm and Chinchilla] (Normal)
Munna [Luna- Lunar] (Psychic)---> Musharna [Tapipsy- Taipr and Psychic] (Psychic)
Giaru [Cogear- Cog and Gear] (Steel) -With PLUS Ability at Level 25-> [Posichine- Positive and Machine] Basically five Gears stuck together to make a Plus Sign. They're Red and they make a Sort of Fire pattern. The middle gear is yellow. (Steel/Fire)
Giaru [Cogear- Cog and Gear] (Steel) -With MINUS Ability at Level 25-> [Negachine- Negative and Machine] Three Gears Tuck Together to make a Minus Sign. It's Blue and the gears are slightly wavy. There are droplets coming off it. (Steel/Water)
Shimama [Zebzap- Zebra and zap] (Electric)---> [Zebolt- Zebra and Bolt] Kind of like how Rapidash contrasts with Ponyta. Bigger, larger mane, and the white and black parts on shimama coat are much more like stripes. Has a slightly dark look about it (Dark/Electric)
Meguroko [Sandile- Sand and Crocodile] (Dark/Ground)---> [Croquake- Crocodile and Quake] I get the feeling that gamefreak are getting into Ancient Egypt a bit more, so I think that this Pokemon will look a bit like Sobek. (Dark/Ground)
Mamepato [Cherpidge- Chirpy and Pigeon] (Flying/Normal)---> Hatooboo [Skygeon- sky and pigeon] Like the difference between Starly and Staravia basically. Bigger, more fierce looking, larger beak, as it it's going to be a vicious predator (Normal/Flying)---> [Perewing- Peregrine and Wing] Peregrine with same colours as Mamepato. (Normal/Flying)
Darumakka [Ashuma- Ash and Daruma] (Fire) --->Hihidaruma [Darumape- Daruma doll and ape] (Fire)---> [Orangash- Orang-utan and ash] Looks like an orang-utan with Daruma doll characteristics. (Fire)
Minezumi- [Meerook- Meerkat and Lookout] (Normal) ---> Miruhoggu [Precodent- Precaution and rodent] bigger version pretty much. (Normal)
Shikijika- [Deason- Deer and season] (Normal) ---> Here I think there will be four evolutions. There will be four types of Deer it evolves into. For Winter, it will be Ice/Normal and will be a Reindeer. Spring will be a Muntjac deer and will be Grass/Normal. Summer will be a Fallow deer and will be Fire/Normal. Finally, the Autumn deer will be a Red deer and will be Ghost/Normal.
Moguryu [Murth- M and earth] (Ground)---> Doryuuzu [Metole- Metal and Mole] (Ground/Steel)
Desukaan-[Sarcummy - Sarchophagus and Mummy] (Ghost/Rock)
[Acitula- Acid and Tarantula] (Bug/Poison)---> Denchura [Stataran- Static and Tarantula] (Bug/Electric)
Rankurrusu [Dustculus- Dust and Homonculus] (Psychic)
[???] (Rock)---> Gigaisu [Gaiagem- Gaia and Gem] (Rock)---> [???] (Rock)
Gochierisu [Psygoth- Psychic and Goth] (Psychic)
Koromori [Luvbat- Love and bat] (Psychic/Flying) ---> [Batart- Bat and Heart] Bigger version with a meaner demeanour and two eyes. The Hearts go somewhere else on its body (Psychic/Flying)
Kibago [Tuskid- Tusk and Kid] (Dragon) ---> Onokusu [Tuskagon- Tusk and Dragon] (Dragon/Rock or Dragon/Bug) ---> Ononokusu [Mantagon- Mantis and Dragon] Kibago's eventual evolution. (Bug/Dragon or Rock/Dragon)
Wooguru [Wargle- War and Eagle] (Normal/Flying) I think it's the Evolution of something, just what I don't know yet. Something like Spearow.
Emonga [Airrel- Air and Squirrel] (Electric/Flying) Might evolve, I hope so.
Mamabou [Nurfish- Nurse and Fish] (Water) May have a Prevo, but I'm not sure if it will and I don't think it's Luvdisc.
[Cygrey- Cygnet and grey, the colour of Cygnets] (Water/Flying) ---> Swana [Swagrace- Swan and Grace] (Water/Flying)
Kurumiru [Sileaf- Silk and Leaf] (Bug/Grass)---> [Brancoon- Branch and Cocoon] (Bug/Grass)---> [Tornaree- Tornado and Tree] (Grass/Flying)
Basuaro [Bassea- Bass and Sea- basically changing around the two words Sea Bass] (Water) ---> [Sokuter- Sokudo, meaning Speed and Water] Gyrados has Attack, Milotic Defence, so this guy is Speed based Sea Serpent (Water)
Tabuune [Lamybe- Lamb (I THINK that's what it's based on) and Maybe, what its name means] (Normal) ---> [Ewerhaps- Ewe, name for a female sheep and Perhaps, another word for maybe] Basically a bigger Two legs Sheep. (Normal)
Yanappu [Monccoli- Monkey and Broccoli] (Grass) ---> [Vegerilla- Vegetable and Gorilla A Green Gorilla with lots of Vegetables. Flying type because of Acrobat, which is most likely a flying move. (Grass/Flying) OR (Grass)

Prevos/Evos of existing Pokemon
Musasaur [Musa- the Latin name for Bananas and Dinosaur] (Grass) ---> Tropius (Grass/Flying) ---> Bropichios [Brachiosaur, Tropic] (Grass/Dragon)
Mantythe [Mantis and Scythe] Bug ---> Scyther (Bug/Flying) ---> Scizor (Bug/Steel)
Roojoey [Kangaroo and Joey, the name for baby kangaroos] - Normal ---> Kangaskan (Normal)
Pachirisu (Electric) ---> [Kashourisu- Kashou, meaning burn, and risu, meaning squirrel) Somewthing similar to the contasts between Pikachu and Raichu; bulked out, bigger tail, a slightly wiked smile, large bucked teeth. As well as this, the blue stripes on it are red and more like waves in shape, making them look like flames. There are however, two stripes on either side of this tripe that is yellow and zigzagged, like electricity (Electric/Fire).
Plusle ---Use the "Number Stone" with the PLUS ability---> [Multile- Multiply and Plusle] A Raichu Clone with a Short tail like Plusle and Minun and a Multiply sign on the end. Its cheeks, also bigger, have Multiply signs as well. It's a slightly darker yellow to Plusle. The Tail, Cheeks and Ears are a Much Darker Red.
Minun ---Use the "Number Stone" with the MINUS ability---> [Dividun- Divide and Minun] The Same Pokemon as the Plusle Evo, But with Divide signs instead of Multiply signs. As well as this the Tail, Ears and Cheeks are a Navy blue colour.
Chatot (Flying/Normal)---> Chatoucan [Chat and toucan] Has two of those musicals notes on either side of his head. Is a Toucan. Looks more like a Raptor than Chatot. Flying/Fighting
Eevee (Normal) ---> Bouldeon (Rock)
Eevee (Normal) ---> Windeon (Flying)
Eevee (Normal) ---> Quakeon (Ground)
Eevee (Normal) ---> Ironeon (Steel)

Completly new Pokemon
A Grass/Fighting Puma - Legendary
A Fire/Dark Panther - Legendary
A Water/Psychic Tiger - Legendary
A Dragon/Ice Dragon. The Crimson/Gray mascot - Legendary
A Normal/Ghost Pokemon - Legendary
A Fire/Rock Fossil line (Sabre toothed Tigers)
An Ice/Rock Fossil line (Mammoths)
A Steel/Rock Fossil (A Wholly Rhinoceros)
Dolsea [Dolphin and sea] A Little cute dolphin (Water) ---> Dolfocean [Dolphin and Ocean] (Water)
Magnikat [Magnitude and Meerkat] Basically a Meerkat Pokemon. (Ground/Normal) ---> Monground [Mongoose and Ground] (Ground/Normal)
Scorchion [Scorch and Scorpion] (Bug/Fire)
Firimp [Fire and Shrimp]A Pistol Shrimp. (Fire/Water)
Peppilli [Pepper and Chilli] a Chilli pepper (Grass/Fire) ---> Capsiorch [Capscium (The family of chillis) and torch] (Grass/Fire)
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