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Pokemon doujinshi?

Discussion in 'Pokémon Manga Discussion' started by Lulu_used_SunnyDay, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. Lulu_used_SunnyDay

    Lulu_used_SunnyDay Petal Blizzard

    Hey guys I have a question: Does anyone know where I can find any english translated, non hentai pokemon Doujinshi?

    I knew a site a while ago where there were a few, featuring Roark and Volkner but the site closed; and whenever I try to search some nwe ones the only things that come up are a bunch of hentai ****.

    Please help me!

    EDIT: Come on, people! First one to answer gets a candy XD (jk)
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2011
  2. Maxim

    Maxim Beyond repair

    Doujinshi don't belong here.
     
  3. Yamato-san

    Yamato-san I own the 5th gen

    ^actually, seeing as they're technically manga and they've technically gotten published (albeit unofficially and in limited quantities), I think they do. But let's allow Coronis and/or Juputoru to make the call.

    Anyway, I bought a couple of doujinshi myself when I went to Comiket 78, but I wouldn't know where you can buy some online. For whatever it's worth, there's a gijinka-based series called "Pocket Servants" (I recall a member on Bulbagarden being familiar with this one) that's now being posted on the artist's Pixiv account, which can be viewed here. However, you'll need a Pixiv account of your own in order to view it (also, the user has a couple NSFW images, but anyone who didn't turn off the R-18 block should be fine).
     
  4. Juputoru

    Juputoru M-m-m-m-onobear?!

    I'm fine with it as long as the discussion doesn't start getting into super-creepy(as in "questionably legal stuff like lolicon" creepy, not "spooky horror stuff" creepy) doujinshi and/or distinctly NWS dounjinshi(so nothing more explicit than would be allowed anywhere else on SPPf).
     
  5. Maxim

    Maxim Beyond repair

    Allowing doujinshis... How a perfect way to derail the manga section.

    It's like discussing Apokelypse in Pokemon movies section.

    They are manga but amateur, uncanonnical and unlicensed. This should count as Fan Art. They don't have more value than sprite comics.
     
  6. MidnightMelody

    MidnightMelody Hopeful for Gen 8

    Random question but what is hentai? Is it like bloody Pokemon drawings or something?
     
  7. Maxim

    Maxim Beyond repair

    If you don't know what Hentai is, then I guess we'd better not explain it to you. :p

    If I were you, I'd rather ask my own parents about what they do at nights, rather than learning it from random strangers on the net. It may be a bit of a shock.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2011
  8. MidnightMelody

    MidnightMelody Hopeful for Gen 8

    oh dear lord it's that?!
     
  9. Hentai is anime p*rn, that simple.
     
  10. Dreamingflower

    Dreamingflower Trying out new games

    Wow I can't believe you didn't know most otaku's know what hentai is. If you don't want to read any hentai I guess its best to avoid some manga that have ecchi in genre or seinen. if you want more detail on that go to wikipedia.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2011
  11. Yamato-san

    Yamato-san I own the 5th gen

    I'd give them far more credit than that. The grand majority of doujinshi I've seen (Pokemon or otherwise) are surprisingly high-quality and some could easily pass for official works (well, they would if a lot of them weren't blatantly pornographic parodies, not that I'm complaining).
     
  12. Maxim

    Maxim Beyond repair

    And there are many talented fanartists who can draw awesome Fan Arts which look just like Sugimori's works. But they're not treated the same as official works. If someone opened a "Sugimori-style fan art" thread in Pokemon General, it'd be quickly moved to Fan art section.

    And it's just the same as discussing doujinshi in Pokemon manga section.

    Fanwork is fanwork, no matter how good it is.
     
  13. Lulu_used_SunnyDay

    Lulu_used_SunnyDay Petal Blizzard

    Actually, I thought they were actually published in volumes in Japan, and were findable online in english only if someone manages to get a hold of them, scan them and translate them :| I don't think this should go in the fanart section, as that's a place where the users themselves share their art. And they ARE manga, as you also said. Doujinshis are mangas the same way PMD is pokemon.

    Anyways, I started this tread so that people can make some actual suggestions on where they can be found, so I don't like to be annoying but may I suggest you return to the topic?
     
  14. Maxim

    Maxim Beyond repair

    Bad point.

    Bootleged games are also "published", you can find them in shops and even translations exist for some (if they weren't in English originally).

    The fact that something is sold doesn't mean that it should be treated equally with official material.

    So, they don't belong anywhere. Just like we don't talk about hack roms anywhere on these forums.

    And bootlegs and hacks are also games.

    Not at all. PMD was done on Nintendo's approval and Nintendo acknowledges its existence, you can even find it on the official site. As for bootleg mangas, they're not acknowledged by any official sources and their publishing is illegal.

    The comparation of PMD and doujinshi is one of the most idiotic things you just said. If we're comparing manga to games then doujins are like bootlegs, not like officially sanctioned games like PMD.

    You're obviously a member of "Main games are the only true Pokemon games" cult. But this is wrong. Approved by Nintendo = official. Doujinshis are neither.

    Why should I discuss the topic if it doesn't belong here?
     
  15. Legendary Dreams

    Legendary Dreams Well-Known Member

    I would like to conclude that Doujinshi is actually a mix of fanfiction and fanart (Just like manga is of a written literature and art, technically) and should actually be granted its own section. If I had a forum with written literature and art in it, and you wanted to post something concerning manga, where would you go?

    It is in no way official, of course, but actually, as these forums don't actually mention the word official, void of a place to post, it is not unreasonable to post about Doujinshi here.

    Just like some forums have sections for game cheating devices, which are all usually placed as a subsection under the "Video Games" section, I would like to think that we should have a subsection here for Doujinshi.

    Of course, the counter to this would be whether we would use that forum much at all.
     
  16. Maxim

    Maxim Beyond repair

    It should rather belong to Fan Area.

    Though, the problem is that Fan Area is considered to be only for sharing one's own art with others. Which is wrong, in my opinion. Well-known fan artists exist, like Pokesho for example. If someone wanted to discuss his works there is no section to do so. And this is wrong.

    Come on. It's common sense. We don't discuss fanmade animations (some exist, not many and mostly parodistic) in anime section or bootlegs/hacks (those are still "video games") in the Pokemon games section. How are doujinshi better than these?

    It's definitely common sense that Pokemon media sections are for OFFICIAL media.

    Which isn't a reason to include doujins here.

    Are they even worth discussing?
     
  17. Legendary Dreams

    Legendary Dreams Well-Known Member

    Considering that Doujinshis are fanwork of quality rivalling official manga, and can invoke as much discussion as actual manga as compared to fanart, I would say actually, its still worth a segment of its own (Well, based on the concept it is fanart, so it should be a subforum under the Fanart section).
     
  18. Juputoru

    Juputoru M-m-m-m-onobear?!

    The difference between doujinshi and random youtube fan trailers(which is all Apokelypse is) is that doujinshi are rather commonplace in Japan, with many actually physically published, and they often have quality worth a ****. Youtube fan trailers(and other fan movies) are not that common, and generally have laughable quality.

    The difference between doujinshi and romhacks is that romhacks, being rom-based, will never be allowed to be thoroughly discussed on SPPf. Also, most romhacks never actually get finished, and 90% of them are 14 year olds making hilariously awful stories and inserting their hideous self-made Pokemon into the games. As far as I'm aware, most doujinshi get finished and they generally don't involve the same level of idiotic 14-year-old "violence! swearing! stupid fanmon!" of romhacks(although they do tend to be rather porny a lot of the time, but you'll notice that I said not to discuss pornographic doujinshi).
    As for bootlegs: Most of those are either cheap knockoffs of the official games, or else they're just romhacks slapped onto a cartridge. So the same points apply.

    In short: Shut up and stop derailing the thread. You are literally the only person here raising a ruckus about this. If you really really really care about this going in what YOU think is the "right" section, bug the Fanart mods about allowing doujinshi discussion. If they allow it(which I doubt they will, but you never know), I'll be more than happy to close this thread. But until then, let the poor topic creator get their doujinshi recommendations in peace.
     
  19. Blackjack Gabbiani

    Blackjack Gabbiani Clearly we're great!

    A single thread won't derail an entire section. Also, Toshihiro Ono wrote doujinshi for his own series. He's an official licenced artist.
     
  20. Yamato-san

    Yamato-san I own the 5th gen

    oh yeah, maybe I should describe some of the Pokemon doujins I saw (and bought) at Comiket: the first one I bought was just kind of a showcasing of various gijinka (it was clean, mind you). Another was a Mystery Dungeon 2 romance between Juptile and the shiny Celebi (again, it was clean, not that I'd ever buy furry porn to begin with). I think my only Pokemon hentai manga was one featuring Musashi/Kojirou, and even then, the sex scenes seemed rather short, hardly seeming like the main focus of the manga in question (for that matter, this same booth was selling a lot of other, non-H Rocket romance manga as she seems particularly fond of that pairing; she has a Pixiv account here, BTW, and everything I said about that previous account applies here, including the NSFW pics that you shouldn't have to worry about anyway as you'd need to actually be a member to view them). I should probably post pictures at some point, but I'm too lazy for the time being.
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2011

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