Ok, this the-legendary-pokemon-are-gods thing really bugs me. It isn't just that I believe that there is one god, and any portrayal of other gods makes me mad, but it's also the fact that if they're gods, this means that they can be controlled by any human in the simple act of throwing something at them. It would be like a ten year old kid controlling God, and that would be enough to send the world to ruins.
The World Of Pokemon Isn't Ment To Make Sence, This Is Not The Real World Also Most Other Pokemon Have Pretty Destructive Powers That Could Cause "Trouble"
That a pathetic cop out of a real explaination used by people to lazy to actually come up with answers to the questions brought up by their own theories, ranked just below "because I said so". It contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion.
The simple fact that Arceus can be captured in a device which is nothing more then human technology almost as easily as any other non devine pokemon shows that it isnt a supreme being with power beyond this world, and the whole creation theory is simply a legend created by a traveller who happened upon it at some point in Sinnoh's history and the story was passed down through generations until people began to actually believe it.
Did you ever stop to think that Arceus allowed himself to be captured? Also, who's the only person who has the possibility of capturing Arceus? The hero, who neer does anything remotely evil so Arceus knows that his power is safe in the hands of the hero, all he then needs to b sure of are his battling abilities which are tested in the fight with Arceus in the hall of origin and when he decides you are strong and determined enough he will allow hmself to be captured. Besides, he could probably break out if he
really wanted/needed to (you know, being the creator/shaper of the universe and all) which just goes to support the theory about Arceus allowing himself to be captured. This theory is also
I'd Also Like To Say About Some Other Pokemon That May Be Considered God-Like
Celebi = NOT A God Travels Through Time, Didn't Create Anything.
Oh dear god (no pun intended) just because she didn't create anything doesn't mean celebi can't be classified as a god, after all she does have the power to ressurect people, which is more than I can say for most of the so called deities (sp?) of pokemon on your list.
mitja said:
Because of that, people started to explain the unexplained things by saying those pokemon did it.
Remember how in Hoenn mythology it is said that Kyogre and Groudon created land and sea? Play Emerald. You'll realise that they're more like some stupid monsters which will only cause trouble when awake.
they might cause trouble when they awake but what evidence do YOU have that they didn't create land and sea hmmm? Think about the things it is already possible for pokemon to do, I think Kyogre and Groudon are at least capable of that.
Mitja said:
You will see when 5th generation comes out, there will again be legendaries which are told to have created the region they are found in.
You can't prove that, have you seen the future? I highly doubt it. The trends show that its unlikely anyways, the only time a pokemon has been proposed to create the region it came out in was Arceus/palkia/dialga IIRC.
Mitja said:
LOL @ two pages of posts debating if arceus is a god, without anyone stating which definition of the word god is meant...
Arceus is not a higher being which is omnipotent and everything, nor did it create the universe or the earth or any other crap. Legendaries are super rare pokemon which posses some special abilities, like how palkia can distort space a bit and how groudon can make the atmosphere around it hotter...
And what evidence do you have (along with other various people) that Arceus is not a higher being or a god? Firstly his name can be taken to mean "ancient/highest god" in greek so that's a bit of a hint along the fact that his clasiffication is "the alpha pokemon" (implying that he was the first).
also, one definition of a god is "a supreme being who is simultaneously the creator and ruler of the universe."
well last time I checked arceus did/does both of those so he is at least a god in that sense.
another way to define a god would be "A being of supernatural powers or attributes, believed in and worshiped by a people, especially a male deity thought to control some part of nature or reality."
Arceus also resembles both a Qilin (a being whose myth is almost identical to the chinese creation deity known as the Pangu) along with Avalokitsevara (sp?) who is the buddha of compassion.
thats a check for sure so thats three-nil (or possiny two-one considering Mitja's comment about people attempting to explain the world with fables, but at any rate the "for Arceus being a god" crowd are still winning) to the people who think Arceus is a god
Arceus has many abilities and powers far exceeding those of normal/ordinary pokemon, even stronger than those of legendaries. so why shouldn't he be able to create the pokemon universe?
Mitja, you pretty much took the words right out my mouth. God does NOT mean creator it means supreme being, in any religion. The reason people see Gods as creators because they have unlimited power and CAN create things.
If they have unlimited power then surely that would mean that they have enough power to create an entire universe.
egendary pokemon are simply rare pokemon that people have made legends and stories about, such as the pokemon league flame never going out, and Raikou's bark being the clap of thunder or something. Its all just stories made up by people who have seen the pokemon. Also in the anime, theres more then one of all the legendaries, which implies they are nothing more then really powerful, rare pokemon.
Wtf? Only a select few pokemon such as Lugia, Manaphy and Suicune (and maybe a couple others I might have missed out) have been confirmed to have more than one member in their species. You have no proof whatsoever for all of the others.
