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Pokemon LEGENDS: Z-A - General Discussion/Speculation Thread

Acer11

Well-Known Member
My guess is that can be traced back to Quasartico Inc. offering a lot of money to start a redevelopment of the city in exchange for something they want (though what that may be is currently unclear) . It's indicated that they specifically are leading the redevelopment which is an interesting detail to add and evil corporation is hardly the first time in Pokemon.
Does this company replace Lysandre's business?
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
Does this company replace Lysandre's business?

Well it's only speculation but I would suspect it would. Though they could have it secretly be connected to Team Flare if they want it to be. One of the trailers I think showed a hologram and considering the Holo Caster was apparently developed by Lysandre Labs so there might be something there.
 

Acer11

Well-Known Member
Well it's only speculation but I would suspect it would. Though they could have it secretly be connected to Team Flare if they want it to be. One of the trailers I think showed a hologram and considering the Holo Caster was apparently developed by Lysandre Labs so there might be something there.
In both the games and anime, Lysandre was engulfed in blasts that also destroyed his destructive weapons. Though his fate is unknown, being the head of a company, and no other to take his place, the company would crumble and be replaced with a new company taking over the products.
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
In both the games and anime, Lysandre was engulfed in blasts that also destroyed his destructive weapons. Though his fate is unknown, being the head of a company, and no other to take his place, the company would crumble and be replaced with a new company taking over the products.

Technically, Malva is still around, so she could easily take over and resume operations, even if only underground.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
In both the games and anime, Lysandre was engulfed in blasts that also destroyed his destructive weapons. Though his fate is unknown, being the head of a company, and no other to take his place, the company would crumble and be replaced with a new company taking over the products.

Well it depends if in-universe there was no-one else who could take ownership legally (there may have been people who owned part of the company who were not active team flare members and thus may not have been arrested) . Also several of the important people in Team Flare may have been arrested but we don't know what happened to them afterwards (Eg. Xerosic, Aliana, Bryony, Celosia, Mable)
There also may have been people involved in the labs who while not powerful enough to resurrect team flare may have been in position to rebrand the science part of the company to something else or its possible someone just broke into the labs and stole valuable information from the computers and used the scientific data to help form a new company. There also could have been admins that just didn't come up in the games but will be retconned in (similar to what they did for Team Rocket and eventually added characters like Archer)
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
Well, the anime is irrelevant, but when did she ever reform in the games? Every time she sees the player she talks about how angry she is and how she wants to kill them.

She does help you stop Xerosic and Save Emma. Though that does seem from the dialogue that's partially because she has a deal with our partner (which in context would be looker) and expects him to honour his agreement. I guess you could count that a partial reform (and probably is the reason she avoids any punishment and get to keep being an elite 4 member and the Holo caster newsreader) but seemingly a minor one if it does count but I'm not convinced she does truly reform in the games so far.
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
She does help you stop Xerosic and Save Emma. Though that does seem from the dialogue that's partially because she has a deal with our partner (which in context would be looker) and expects him to honour his agreement. I guess you could count that a partial reform (and probably is the reason she avoids any punishment and get to keep being an elite 4 member and the Holo caster newsreader) but seemingly a minor one if it does count but I'm not convinced she does truly reform in the games so far.

I definitely wouldn't call that reformation. I'd call it a criminal making a deal with police to avoid prison time.

With that in mind, it is quite possible we'll see Malva in Legends: Z-A.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
I definitely wouldn't call that reformation. I'd call it a criminal making a deal with police to avoid prison time.

With that in mind, it is quite possible we'll see Malva in Legends: Z-A.

Agreed. Malva has a lot she could bring to the game. She might even still be the newsreader and we never got to see her use a mega in the games (she does use a Mega Houndoom in the anime but they might change that up) and she did know where the lab was in Lumiose so she's probably at least somewhat familiar with the city (and might even live nearby) so it wouldn't be that surprising for her to show up . I do suspect if she does she'll be a bit more chilled in this game towards us as time has passed and we're a different character.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

*On Vacation. Go Away!*
In both the games and anime, Lysandre was engulfed in blasts that also destroyed his destructive weapons. Though his fate is unknown, being the head of a company, and no other to take his place, the company would crumble and be replaced with a new company taking over the products.
I’m convinced that Lysandre is still alive and that he escaped from the hideout before it was fully destroyed by exiting through a secret door that leads to underground tunnels. It’s heavily implied in XY that there are underground tunnels all throughout Kalos that the player never enters. The Power Plant is one location that obviously uses underground tunnels that we have never gained access to and we know from NPC dialogue that Luminose City has a complex sewer system where wild Pokémon live.
 

PrinceOfFacade

Ghost-Type Master
I’m convinced that Lysandre is still alive and that he escaped from the hideout before it was fully destroyed by exiting through a secret door that leads to underground tunnels. It’s heavily implied in XY that there are underground tunnels all throughout Kalos that the player never enters. The Power Plant is one location that obviously uses underground tunnels that we have never gained access to and we know from NPC dialogue that Luminose City has a complex sewer system where wild Pokémon live.

Considering the rumor about the Paris catacombs being in the game, this could prove quite true.

Hopefully it does. It would make a very interesting feature.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
I don't think that Lysandre is returning, mostly because it would officially establish that X is the canon Kalos game and Y is thrown out completely.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
I don't think that Lysandre is returning, mostly because it would officially establish that X is the canon Kalos game and Y is thrown out completely.

Not necessarily. If he had some form of escape that allowed him to avoid being hit by the ultimate weapon then it wouldn't establish either game as canon. For example if he happened to have a teleporter (or some Pokemon nearby that happened to know teleport) then it wouldn't confirm to be in X or Y canon (though it would be a bit Deus ex machina I admit).
 

Captain Jigglypuff

*On Vacation. Go Away!*
Not necessarily. If he had some form of escape that allowed him to avoid being hit by the ultimate weapon then it wouldn't establish either game as canon. For example if he happened to have a teleporter (or some Pokemon nearby that happened to know teleport) then it wouldn't confirm to be in X or Y canon (though it would be a bit Deus ex machina I admit).
Still think he escaped via secret underground tunnels. I mean the Ultimate Weapon in Geosage Town literally rose out of the ground and obviously there had to be some sort of tunnel to reach it when it was being made.
 

Luthor

Well-Known Member
Still think he escaped via secret underground tunnels. I mean the Ultimate Weapon in Geosage Town literally rose out of the ground and obviously there had to be some sort of tunnel to reach it when it was being made.

That also works too. My point was more as long as he doesn't get hit by the weapon due to some form of escape (teleporting was just the least complicated one I could come up with) then it wouldn't force into either the X or Y canon as it doesn't matter whether the weapon gave immortality or death if Lysandre managed to avoid getting hit by it completely by escaping it.
 

Pokemon Power

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My theory is that he got hit by the blast, but rather than making him immortal or killing him depending on whether you have X or Y, he ended up in some undead state, like a ghost or a zombie. Not alive, but not dead either.
 
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