Pokemon LEGENDS: Z-A - [OPEN SPOILERS] General Discussion Thread

[Wulava]

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[Lucario At Service]

So, Meganium still got screwed even with a Mega because of it's moveset?

For Special side (it's strongest as Mega)
- Giga Drain/Energy Ball/Leaf Storm
- Dazzling Gleam
- Earth Power
- Work Up

For Physical side, (average but not good)
- Leaf Blade/Bullet Seed
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Iron Tail
- Outrage
- Curse/Swords Dance

 

[Commander L. Halsti]

Question to those who have played: are there dodging-based boss fights like in Pokemon Legends Arceus?

 

[Pokemon Power]

So you go from Rank V to Rank F in a flash?! Guess they didn't have enough time to put in everything in between, huh? By the way, I heard a rumor saying that you can catch Dianice in this game. Could someone please look into this to clarify?

 

[Lucario At Service]

So, the extra +40 to Mega Starmie's stats seems to hint that it would probably get either Huge Power or Pure Power or some new variation Ability when it finally appears in the Core Games.
Since the other two pokemon to get that +40 boost to their Mega stat also had those abilities (aka., Mega Mawile & Mega Medicham).

 

[Autobot N]

So you go from Rank V to Rank F in a flash?! Guess they didn't have enough time to put in everything in between, huh? By the way, I heard a rumor saying that you can catch Dianice in this game. Could someone please look into this to clarify?

I saw someone say that the Diancite and the Mewtonites will be Mystery Gift distributions that trigger the encounters for their respective Pokemon

 

[ShadowForce720]

I saw someone say that the Diancite and the Mewtonites will be Mystery Gift distributions that trigger the encounters for their respective Pokemon

So I think out of the Kalos mythical Pokémon that just leaves really Volcanion as the only one that we have don’t really have any indication on how to get.

As Hoopa is obviously tied to the DLC.

 

[Acer11]

So I think out of the Kalos mythical Pokémon that just leaves really Volcanion as the only one that we have don’t really have any indication on how to get.

As Hoopa is obviously tied to the DLC.

Either Volcanion would have exclusive DLC or something.

 

[Tsukuyomi56]

And now the tribute for the Pokemon from the original Kalos Dex that did not make it into the base game:

Central Dex

Spoiler

Butterfree line
Bibarel line
Dunsparce
Azumarill line
Mothim line
Masquerain line
Crawdaunt line
Seaking line
Golduck line
Farfetch'd
Ledian line
Vespiquen line
Delcatty line
Dodrio line
Pulse and Minum
Swalot line
Oddish line
Furret line
Nincada line
Kecleon
Smeargle
Toxicroak line
Swanna line
Volbeat and Illumise
Jumpluff line
Snorlax line
Exploud line
Crobat line
Haxorus line

Coastal Dex

Spoiler

Driflblim line
Mienshao line
Zangoose and Seviper
Lunatone and Solrock
Pelipper line
Swellow line
Crustle line
Tentacruel line
Wailord line (makes sense)
Luvdisc
Cloyster line
Qwilfish
Kingdra line
Relicanth
Rhyperior line
Swoobat line
Marowak line
Ferrothorn line
Granbull line
Yanmega line
Golurk line
Probopass line
Hariyama line
Throh and Sawk
Staraptor line
All the members of the Nidoran lines
Chimecho line
Mr Mime line
Reuniclus line
Wobbuffet line
Gigalith line
Tauros
Miltank
Pachirisu
Exeggutor line
Chatot
Mantine line
Clamperl line
Octillery line
Corsola
Lanturn line
Alomomola
Lapras
Legendary Birds

Mountain Dex

Spoiler

Dugtrio line
Flygon line
Magcargo line
Shuckle
Drapion line
Quagsire line
Karrablast and Shelmet lines
Carnivine
Poliwag line
Whiscash line
Liepard line
Mightyena line
Bisharp line
Honchkrow line
Amoongus line
Ludicolo line
Floatzel line
Basculin
Rotom
Magnezone line
Electrode line
Mamoswine line
Beartic line
Jynx line
Weavile line
Conkeldurr line
Torkoal
Sandslash line
Durant and Heatmor
Cyrgonal line
Gliscor line
Noctowl line
Wigglytuff line
Gothitelle line
Sudowoodo line
Spinda
Usraring line
Lickilicky line
Druddigon
Hydreigon line

 

[Pokemonfanforlife7]

So, Meganium still got screwed even with a Mega because of it's moveset?

For Special side (it's strongest as Mega)
- Giga Drain/Energy Ball/Leaf Storm
- Dazzling Gleam
- Earth Power
- Work Up

For Physical side, (average but not good)
- Leaf Blade/Bullet Seed
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Iron Tail
- Outrage
- Curse/Swords Dance

Good enough for me. When I eventually get the game, I'm still picking Chikorita.

 

[Smeargle-Sketch]

ok so it is confirmed
Scizor, Slowking, Slurpuff and Aromatisse are unobtainable without trading
You can get Galarian Slowking via a side mission though

 

[Red and Blue]

ok so it is confirmed
Scizor, Slowking, Slurpuff and Aromatisse are unobtainable without trading
You can get Galarian Slowking via a side mission though

Talk about a giant step back after Arceus

 

[ShadowForce720]

Talk about a giant step back after Arceus

I really don’t understand why they insist on forcing people to trade just to evolve their Pokémon. I’m not saying that they have to remove it completely but they could have easily handle it like they handled it in Legends Arceus for all main series games that come out after Legends Arceus where you can evolve your Pokémon without trading but you can still evolve them via trading as well, it’s just that the trading part is optional.

I mean heck seems ridiculous to force people to trade their Pokemon just to evolve them when they aren’t even introducing any new trade evolutions.

I mean sure can’t catch them in this game but, seems absolutely ridiculous that they are fine with people catching trade evolutions like Gengar in raids in Sword&Shield but no they can’t possibly allow people to evolve their Haunter into Gengar without trading outside of Legends Arceus.

In all honesty the whole concept not being able to evolve certain Pokemon without trading needs to honestly die, considering it’s pretty much an outdated concept at this point.

Especially when they basically don’t put in a system to guarantee that you will be able to get your Pokémon back.

 

[Smeargle-Sketch]

I really don’t understand why they insist on forcing people to trade just to evolve their Pokémon. I’m not saying that they have to remove it completely but they could have easily handle it like they handled it in Legends Arceus for all main series games that come out after Legends Arceus where you can evolve your Pokémon without trading but you can still evolve them via trading as well, it’s just that the trading part is optional.

I mean heck seems ridiculous to force people to trade their Pokemon just to evolve them when they aren’t even introducing any new trade evolutions.

I mean sure can’t catch them in this game but, seems absolutely ridiculous that they are fine with people catching trade evolutions like Gengar in raids in Sword&Shield but no they can’t possibly allow people to evolve their Haunter into Gengar without trading outside of Legends Arceus.

In all honesty the whole concept not being able to evolve certain Pokemon without trading needs to honestly die, considering it’s pretty much an outdated concept at this point.

Especially when they basically don’t put in a system to guarantee that you will be able to get your Pokémon back.

I always thought a trade machine like the ones shown in the anime, located and unlocked at a certain point in the professor's lab equivalent would make sense as an option.

A npc would be there to trade a regular mon for with you for a certain mon, then just speak again to trade back if you so wish.

If they don't want to bring the Linking Cable back or make trade items work like evolutionary stones.

 

[Tsukuyomi56]

Talk about a giant step back after Arceus

Catching all the Pokemon is needed to face Arceus, so the Linking Cord was likely included to not lock out solo players. For this game the Pokedex is not the main goal, it is more of a side goal as part of Mable’s Research.

 

[ShadowForce720]

Catching all the Pokemon is needed to face Arceus, so the Linking Cord was likely included to not lock out solo players. For this game the Pokedex is not the main goal, it is more of a side goal as part of Mable’s Research.

It doesn’t really matter if completing the Pokédex is the main goal or not, they should not be locking evolutions behind trade. You shouldn’t have to trade your Scyther or Onix just to evolve them into a Scizor or Steelix respectively. Not to also forget to mention the ridiculous fact that Porygon’s entire line is pretty locked behind trading if you want to evolve it.

 

[Smeargle-Sketch]

It doesn’t really matter if completing the Pokédex is the main goal or not, they should not be locking evolutions behind trade. You shouldn’t have to trade your Scyther or Onix just to evolve them into a Scizor or Steelix respectively. Not to also forget to mention the ridiculous fact that Porygon’s entire line is pretty locked behind trading if you want to evolve it.

especially when Legends are singular titles, not like new gens wheen there are two versions with different dexes.

 

[Acer11]

You know, this is the first time besides in Pokemon Let's Go, Pikachu! where it's mandatory to catch Pikachu as well as a mandatory in-game trade other than in X/Y.

 

[Autobot N]

Why tf does the game try to present Corbeau as "actually a nice guy" after trying to loan shark a minor out of a million dollars

 

[Smeargle-Sketch]

you get a 1% every time you revive a Fossil for them to be an alpha or shiny after the first revive