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Pokemon Scarlet & Pokemon Violet - General Discussion/Speculation Thread

masdog

What is the airspeed of an unladen Swellow?
While getting any performance issues addressed in this patch would be a welcome surprise, I’m not expecting it. Even if they knew what parts of the engine’s code were causing the issues, it would require a lot of testing to make sure any fixes actually resolved the issue and didn’t introduce any new and/or worse problems. That takes a lot of time, and I think they would have needed to be working on the performance issues before the game was released to have a patch by now.

SV's unexpected performance issue when not even Sword and Shield had noticeable frame drops
SwSh had tons of frame drops and performance issues, especially in the wild area.
 

CiciStormy

Living Rotomdex
Wingulltrainer, if you can't handle doing the Star Barrage, then you should stop playing this game and go back to Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, or just give up on Pokemon and go play Breath of the Wild or some other open world game because this is how Game Freak decided to make the game, and if you don't like it, that's Tinkatuff. :p
 

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
I don’t know. The message from Nintendo seemed a little too vague to sound like they’re going to fix the performance issues. Based on their updates for BDSP, I think they’re just going to patch up glitches like duping items or the town glitch to spawn shiny pokémon more easily
 

Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.
I'm not seeing the new update on my end and it's 1st of December over here as well. It's still just version 1.0.1
 

janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
I downloaded the game from Australian E-shop and the region of my Switch is Australia so it is already Dec 2nd ........ but not patch
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
I don’t see any performance issues and the only glitches I’ve seen are graphical in nature and not causing any harm. I like the games and think the team did an excellent job here and made things feel so much larger than before. Plus there are some details that players might miss if they don’t pay attention or do something a certain way. Did you know that if you send out Pawmo and Pawmot out into the water, they will be seen floating similarly to Buizel and Floatzel and can be seen paddling to stay afloat? It’s really cute to witness.

 

janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
I don’t see any performance issues and the only glitches I’ve seen are graphical in nature and not causing any harm. I like the games and think the team did an excellent job here and made things feel so much larger than before. Plus there are some details that players might miss if they don’t pay attention or do something a certain way. Did you know that if you send out Pawmo and Pawmot out into the water, they will be seen floating similarly to Buizel and Floatzel and can be seen paddling to stay afloat? It’s really cute to witness.
The games are very laggy and with low frame rate.
 

masdog

What is the airspeed of an unladen Swellow?
The games are very laggy and with low frame rate.
Everyone isn’t having the same experience with the game. Some people seem to be having a very bad experience with lag and FPS drops, and others are having a good experience with a regular gaming experience. And many more are somewhere in the middle.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Everyone isn’t having the same experience with the game. Some people seem to be having a very bad experience with lag and FPS drops, and others are having a good experience with a regular gaming experience. And many more are somewhere in the middle.
Honestly I know nothing about FPS or lagging and to me the games look fine and unless the game freezes the screen from movement I’m not going to notice anything is off.
 

Queen Cynthia

Dignified Queen of Sinnoh
Don't know it that question has been asked already:

Has it been confirmed yet that Pokemon like Great Tusk, Roaring Moon, Iron Thorns etc. are unique and new forms and not just Paldean forms of well-known Pokemon from previous gens ? (Donphan ,Salamence and Tyranitar in that case)
The resemblance is so striking but Serebii Pokedex lists them as unique forms.
 

Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.
I would say they are unique from their timeline Ancient Past/Future like the Ultra Beasts are from their own dimension. None of them have pre-evolutions.
Even their regular counterparts such as Larvitar can't evolve into Iron Thorns, Makuhita doesn't evolve into Iron Hands and Larvesta can't evolve into neither Slither Wing or Iron Moth.

It does allow players to not have grind Deino or Larvesta into Iron Jugulis or Iron Moth/Slither Wing (Effectively training two into level alternate forms of 59 and 64 twice which are very high levels)
 
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Don't know it that question has been asked already:

Has it been confirmed yet that Pokemon like Great Tusk, Roaring Moon, Iron Thorns etc. are unique and new forms and not just Paldean forms of well-known Pokemon from previous gens ? (Donphan ,Salamence and Tyranitar in that case)
The resemblance is so striking but Serebii Pokedex lists them as unique forms.
From a mechanical standpoint, yes they are unique Pokémon with separate dex numbers and everything that comes with being a brand new Pokémon.

Exactly what the Paradox Pokémon are in-universe is left somewhat vague, but they're not regional variants.
 

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
Don't know it that question has been asked already:

Has it been confirmed yet that Pokemon like Great Tusk, Roaring Moon, Iron Thorns etc. are unique and new forms and not just Paldean forms of well-known Pokemon from previous gens ? (Donphan ,Salamence and Tyranitar in that case)
The resemblance is so striking but Serebii Pokedex lists them as unique forms.

I would say they are unique from their timeline Ancient Past/Future like the Ultra Beasts are from their own dimension. None of them have pre-evolutions.
Even their regular counterparts such as Larvitar can't evolve into Iron Thorns, Makuhita doesn't evolve into Iron Hands and Larvesta can't evolve into neither Slither Wing or Iron Moth.

It does allow players to not have grind Deino or Larvesta into Iron Jugulis or Iron Moth/Slither Wing (Effectively training two into level alternate forms of 59 and 64 twice which are very high levels)

From a mechanical standpoint, yes they are unique Pokémon with separate dex numbers and everything that comes with being a brand new Pokémon.

Exactly what the Paradox Pokémon are in-universe is left somewhat vague, but they're not regional variants.
Lore & story-wise, I think they’re alternate universe counterparts of the pokémon we know, lost in space-time without a proper dimension to call their home
 

Mr.Munchlax

Great Ball Rank Trainer
So it's true. The true treasure was the friends we made along the way. Honestly, it's not even surprising. It's Pokemon, friendship is always the answer.
The game kind of made that obvious in the cutscene where Clavel explains the treasure hunt. The treasure’s supposed to be your own experience traveling through Paldea, and how you grew as a person from the experiences, friendships, & memories you made through your adventures
 
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Pokefan_1987

Avid Pokemon TCG Card collector.
The game kind of made that obvious in the cutscene where Clavel explains the treasure hunt. The treasure’s supposed to be your own experience traveling through Paldea, and how you grew as a person from the experiences, friendships, & memories you made through your adventures
Still it gets emphasized over and over. Kinda gets tiring after a while and starts sounding boring.
 

Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
I was scrolling through Twitter, and caught wind of someone saying that the game runs better if your files are on the system memory rather than the SD storage memory. This is anecdotal at best, but I've seen people in the replies say that it indeed runs better. This may be especially useful if you bought a digital version of the game, as a lot of your data is on SD storage otherwise. I moved my update data to system memory, and I might have noticed some small performance enhancements. Hard to say, but I don't see the harm in trying this.

TL;DR If you have a digital copy of the game, see if it runs better on system memory.
 

Wulava

danger chili pepper
Staff member
Moderator
So apparently, the 7-star Lv.100 Mightiest Mark Charizard can be solo'd, and some say that they've found some 6-star raids to be actually harder.

I'm only at 11 badges and can't be bothered to make a fully competitive build just for the heck of it, but it's good to know that it's not difficult as many people online make it seem to be.
 

Auraninja

Eh, ragazzo!
Update is live.

Maybe I'm delusional, but the game seems to be running smoother with the update.

The draw distance still kind of sucks (maybe it got better), but the FPS feels more consistent to me.
 
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