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Pokemon Sword & Shield GENERAL DISCUSSION Thread [Spoiler-Prone Area]

Discussion in 'Pokémon Sword & Shield Discussion' started by Kage-Pikachu, Jun 9, 2018.


Does this idea seem at all plausible to you?

  1. Nah

  2. Yep

  3. I'm a kangaroo

  1. shoz999

    shoz999 Do you wanna try a good Tapu Cocoa? My treat.

    Is it just me or does everyone want the Gigantimax Fire Centipede?
  2. DMB1985

    DMB1985 Well-Known Member

    The issues you've mentioned are exactly why I have no desire to buy the game. As much as they annoy me, I can live with sub-par graphics and animations whilst Dexit was never a deal breaker for me. But I simply can't put up with the constant dumbing down that has been going on since Gen 6. The decision to force Exp Share on us whether we like it or not isn't something I can support and from everything I have read about it, it really does make the game as easy as I expected it would. And removing any sort of dungeon like area is a big no-no for me. They have long been some of my favourite parts of the games so to learn that there are no decent ones in these games is a definite deal breaker.

    To be honest, with the direction that the series has been going in over the last few gens, this is probably where I check out. It's a shame as I've had some great times with Pokémon over the years but for me the games have become rather sad imitations of what they once were.
  3. Ophie

    Ophie Salingerian Phony

    Technically, that pose is based on Freddy Mercury's iconic pose:


    I don't know how widespread the idea is, but I distinguish between visual design and graphics. To me, "graphics" refers to how advanced or otherwise competent a video game is able to display its visuals, while "visual design" or "art style" refers to how appealing a video game looks. The former is technical; the latter is artistic. A game can have terrible visual design and great graphics or vice versa. Nefarious, in my opinion, falls in that category, as the characters as they appear in gameplay pales in comparison to Gashi-Gashi's interpretations, and the backgrounds are full of simple gradients and geometric shapes. On the other hand, everything is animated very well, you can easily tell foreground from background, and the game keeps a high framerate. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild's Switch version is essentially a Wii U game, so by its nature, it's not pushing what the Switch is really capable of. However, that doesn't stop it from looking absolutely beautiful everywhere you go.

    I say Pokémon Sword and Shield falls into that latter side. The polygon count is pretty low, there are framerate problems in cutscenes and in the Wild Area, and characters and objects sometimes move awkwardly. However, there is a lot of variety of look in different places, the colors are bright and vibrant or muted and saturated when they need to be, and the human and Pokémon design are out of the park. They worked well with tough limitations, whether due to incompetence or lack of resources (time, money, manpower, etc.).

    If it helps any, I found Impidimp in a Max Raid Battle--in the Shield Version, no less. This was the den I found it in:


    It's at the northeasternmost tip of the Rolling Fields part.

    I also managed to find Dreepy via a Max Raid Battle. The den is in Dappled Grove, up against the western cliff in an alcove. That same den also contains Goomy:


    I wonder if you can find Larvitar, Deino, and Jangmo-o in it too.
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  4. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

    Maybe. It's like they thought Dig had always been a TM so they could just copy-paste Dig compatibility over from the hack checks or something, completely forgetting that it wasn't teachable in Alola. Maybe they'll fix it, maybe they won't. Pokémon sometimes has these oversights in their design that never really seem to get fixed until many many generations later. It took until gen 8 before Steelix got Iron Defence, it was never compatible with the tutors before. Zeraora missed out on Magnet Rise, it wasn't compatible with the tutor, even though its description literally talks about it using magnetic fields to fly, and now Magnet Rise is no longer teachable. Beheeyem got Steel Wing presumably through an oversight, but they keep that compatibility even now, while in other cases like Silvally's Grass Pledge they take the compatibility away (and that was Silvally's only special Grass move). It's very inconsistent how they deal with these things, my guess is it just depends on which employee happens to work on that particular pokémon or teachable move and how thorough he/she is, which also makes it unpredictable.
  5. Sham

    Sham Aang could never

    I’m starting to think Galarian Corsola is a myth
  6. Divine Retribution

    Divine Retribution Master of the freak show

    So now that I've played through the game and had some time to gather my thoughts, I'm going to go ahead and leave a review of the game.

    This is perhaps the most controversial game we've ever had, blowing Black and White out of the water. The elephant in the room is obviously Dexit, and most of the debate rages around whether or not the improvements in graphics and gameplay justify Dexit somehow. No matter which side of the fence you're on, or whether you're sitting on the fence itself, Dexit is what we got and it's too late to change that. I've made my opinions on Dexit pretty clear in the past, and I see no reason to beat that dead horse anymore, so I'm going to leave it out of this review. This is a review of the final product as we got it.

    I really enjoyed this game, and I think it marks a turning point for the Pokemon franchise to become far greater than we previously could have expected. This game makes massive leaps in terms of gameplay, graphics, and QoL features that, assuming they aren't dropped after this generation, will have a huge impact on the quality of future games in the Pokemon franchise. Raids are a fantastic way to tie cooperative PvE content into Pokemon in a way that it previously did not have. The graphics might not be Witcher III on Ultra quality, but they're miles ahead of the 3DS games. The world is beautifully crafted, putting the blocky, unnatural Minecraft-esque maps of previous games to utter shame. I love the minute details that add to the game's immersion. Random NPCs wander about, talking about nothing in particular but adding to the atmosphere. Street hawkers, record shops, and restraunts dot the streets of the various towns and cities you visit. The crowd cheers and chants while spectating your gym battles. Words cannot describe how much more immersive these games are than their previous titles. There are a ton of new quality of life features, such as being able to access the box system anywhere, being able to check the IVs of any Pokemon in your PC without needing to visit an NPC after obtaining the IV checker, and a variety of competitive QoL improvements such as nature mints and EV curries.

    This game isn't perfect, however. The biggest disappointment to me was how much they oversold the scale of the Wild Area. The Wild Area is very cool and an amazing concept, but they made it sound massive. In reality, you can cross the entirety of it in about a minute. The various biomes within are rather small and often awkwardly placed. Wild Pokemon roaming the overworld is very cool, but they do so in every route, so the Wild Area isn't particularly noteworthy for it. Raids are incredible fun, but I don't like having to hunt down and defeat every single active Raid den before new ones will spawn, especially since some are located behind large rocks or in other places that make them difficult to spot sometimes. It wouldn't be so bad if they were marked on the map, perhaps. The other slight letdown was the pacing of the story, or uh... lack thereof. Honestly, I feel like there was a lot of the story that was simply cut out. There are characters that don't seem to serve much purpose, there's very little buildup to the main climax of the games, and the motivation of the villain is a bit of a head-scratcher to me (won't go into any details here due to spoilers, maybe in a later post). I think part of this game's story might have been cut out or condensed in order to get the games out faster, and I hope this isn't something we see in later games.

    Those are fairly minor problems, and they (along with Dexit) honestly pale in comparison to not only what these games bring to the table for themselves, but also what they bring to the Pokemon franchise in general. They might be controversial, but ten years from now I think we'll look back at them as a huge step forward for the Pokemon series.
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  7. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

    How is an IV checker in the PC new? It's already a thing in the Alola games.
  8. Divine Retribution

    Divine Retribution Master of the freak show

    Wasn't aware. Still a nice QoL feature, no need to be hostile.
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  9. Sceptile Leaf Blade

    Sceptile Leaf Blade Nighttime Guardian

    No hostility intended, I just wondered how it was any different.
  10. British Soul

    British Soul Top Hat Regulator

    I believe he was on about the fact that you can access the PC from anywhere, whereas in the past you had to go to a specific place to do so.
  11. lemoncatpower

    lemoncatpower Cynical optimist

    I’m more curious about how people will feel about the game in a month or two from now compared all these current reviews tbh
  12. Sponge

    Sponge Well-Known Member

    Is there any thread where you can ask someone to host a raid battle? I'd like to catch my own Clobbopus but it appears way too late in the game. (route 9)
  13. Sham

    Sham Aang could never

    In my personal opinion I’d go back and play the Alola games before I touch Galar (so far)
  14. Marzbar

    Marzbar Well-Known Member

    I have no idea what the reviews and leakers are talking about. Yes the games cut a lot of stuff. Yes they could be better. Yes it was a missed opportunity for something epic. Yes we probably needed more from these games.

    But having said all that, the Wild Area IMO is absolutely MASSIVE! I’ve spent a day in it battling all sorts of crazy powerful Pokémon and farming money and curry ingredients and other items. Seriously it’s huge. Big achievement by GF. And secondly, the games are just really cute. Epic bagpipe music in parts of the Wild area for example. And the routes are not short and small. Most are pretty decent so far. And the towns aren’t small either, so far. I do wish we’d had buffs to old mons and tweaks to the type chart, but I’m still enjoying the game.
  15. Rapiido

    Rapiido Well-Known Member

    I caught 3 Ponyta in Glimwood Tangle, trying to get the ability that wasn't garbage Run Away, and then spent 45 minutes looking until it appeared that I had caught every Pontya available in the game and gave up.
  16. Emboar_Rulez

    Emboar_Rulez Pokémon Master (Kinda)

    I’m gonna try using a barraswda has anyone used one right? Are they any good?
  17. Satoshi & Touko

    Satoshi & Touko Glimwood Tangle is Literal Dreamland

    I used a Barraskewda in my Fire Gym challenge. They're weak defensively, but their Attack and Speed stats are some of the best available.
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  18. Lord Godwin

    Lord Godwin The Lord of Darkness

    So it seems we are able to have clothes representing all 18 types with logos. Will try to combine all. I think it's the only minor league sign we have but still.
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  19. xayshade

    xayshade Active Member

    Im at gym 6 now, so i'll give my thoughts.

    The game is fun. Ive been having a great time playing it. We will see how that changes over the next few months and years. The wild area is big, but not huge. Its like a large safari park. The pokemon there are the biggest challenge. I did not think i would enjoy the dynamax raids as much as i do. The 3 and 4 star raids are where you really test your skills. But the one and 2 star are good for getting trs. The animations are better than expected. I only play handheld and i have no provlems lagging or skipping or choppiness. And honestly i have my cinderace use pyro ball just for the animation. The pokemon are 8/10. The characters are interesting. I love bedes arc so far. I didnt realize how much i missed a jerk rival til i saw him. Hop is ok. He is what barry and hau should be. All in all its fun and tons of stuff to do. And its not criminally easy. It is about normal difficulty for a pokemon game. You will breeze through until you have 1 opponent that tells you about yourself, and back to breezing. The gym battles are awesome and fun.

    The animations can be, lacking. The distance you can look can be long or short, but usually short. The randomness and lack of backgrounds can be immersion breaking. The balance of the exp share should be worked on a bit. I didnt dislike it but its difficult to anticipate. Having to find a guy to do sound options was annoying. I could care less about sonia and what she has to say. The short move pools make it so you dont have much to train your pokemon toward after they beat the opponent you need them for. I wish the wild area had explorable dungeons like caves and underwater and stuff. I missed riding your own pokemon in LGPE.

    All in all:

    This was a lot of fun, but it isnt what it could be. I could care less about the nat dex, but my problem with it was that gf made it seem like we would gain something amazing from it. And a lot of the changes i feel were a step in the right direction to becoming what a pokemon game could be, it falls short into just a good game. It feels like they wasted too much time trying to put in the pokemon they did put in, they struggled to barely finish the game. Like it feels like this could be game of the year if they had another year to finish it. But instead its just good. Tbf its certainly better than gen 1, 4, 6, and 7. Maybe its better than 3 too, i dont know.
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  20. Ophie

    Ophie Salingerian Phony

    Are there really only three of them? More don't respawn if you leave and come back?

    (In any case, you can stll breed them to get the other Ability.)

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