Orphalesion
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I like the design, but I think the Pokemon just doesn't live up to the design. I think they should have given it an evolution.
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Pokemon you like that everyone else seems to hate
- Thread starter PineapplePizza
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I like the design, but I think the Pokemon just doesn't live up to the design. I think they should have given it an evolution.
Prof. SALTY
The Scruffy Professor
Agreed. Or maybe make it a pre-evolution of Solrock and Lunatone
PineapplePizza
Well-Known Member
Bulbasaur being "the one nobody picks" is practically a meme. Granted, I think Bulbasaur's unpopularity is usually just from fans who only played generation 1 only. I always found Bulbasaur to be a good choice because there really wasn't a lot of good grass Pokemon to choose from in gen 1. Squirtle and its evos are cool and all but water Pokemon are a dime a dozen. Charmander is a great choice imo but so are growlithe/arcanine and Flareon. You really won't find a better grass Pokemon in gen 1 than Bulbasaur.
Orphalesion
Well-Known Member
When I was a kid I chose him because I liked the colour Green
But yeah he's easily the best Grass Pokemon in Gen 1. While Charmander and Squirtle have more competition in their types.
Ignition
We are so back Zygardebros
Almost everyone hates Charizard now and most of the time they bring up competitive statistics that they can barely comprehend to look smart. I remember during my days in FRLG where people would say “Bulbasaur has the best time type advantage for the beginning” but I always thought it’d be more fun to play with a Pokèmon who has a disadvantage to make the game more challenging nevermind team composition besides your starter
PineapplePizza
Well-Known Member
I know Charizard is a favorite punching bag of the "hahaha gen 1 sucks and has no merits and I'm not bitter that my fav gen isn't as popular or beloved" crowd but I feel most normal fans don't? Maybe I'm wrong.
I like Bulbasaur, obviously, but I always found that piece of advise questionable myself. Bulbasaur doesn't know a good STAB move until level 13. By level 13 your Charmander could beat Brock in gen 1 simply by spamming Ember and knowing when to avoid using offensive attacks when its using bide. FRLG at least makes it more difficult by having Onix's signature move be Rock Tomb. I've seen fans treat it as easier because Charmander can learn Metal Claw not accounting for how much better Brock is in the remakes. My first time playing Fire Red I lost to Brock a couple times thinking I could just cream him with Metal Claw.
Also Bulbasaur doesn't fair so hot against the mirad of bug pokemon or pidgey or zubat in the beginning. I actually found using Bulbasaur a bit more of challenge than Charmander who can burn his way through Viridian forest.
If fans are going to decide which starter is "easiest to use" based on who can beat Brock the easiest than Squirtle would win. It could beat Geodude and Onix at the lowest possible level.
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Ignition
We are so back Zygardebros
I guess I wouldn’t say hate but more so dislike by using its popularity as a reason to despise it
Orphalesion
Well-Known Member
I just genuinely never liked Charmander's design, like even as a kid. It could have been popula, unpopular or anything in between and I wouldn't have liked it. I think it looked rubbery to me. I think Charmeleon looks better than Charmander though (it's that horn and general dinosaur-like design)
Cometstarlight
What do I do now?
Noctowl- "it's just an owl" but hey, I like owls. Its eyes aren't freakishly huge and it can learn psychic type attacks without being psychic type, which I think is cool. That and I like the color brown. It also helps that Noctowl was one of the Pokemon to get a buff in the newer gens, so that's nice!
Stantler- I love deer, the psychic bit again is pretty cool
Chikorita line- (it's not just Johto stuff, I swear) Freaking love Chikorita et al. Always have.
Oshawott line- I like Dewott the most, but this line doesn't get a lot of love and I honestly never understood why. It's a samurai otter. Admittedly, I was a bit disappointed with Samurott, but the design has grown on me. Love their scalchops!
Stantler- I love deer, the psychic bit again is pretty cool
Chikorita line- (it's not just Johto stuff, I swear) Freaking love Chikorita et al. Always have.
Oshawott line- I like Dewott the most, but this line doesn't get a lot of love and I honestly never understood why. It's a samurai otter. Admittedly, I was a bit disappointed with Samurott, but the design has grown on me. Love their scalchops!
Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
I could be wrong here, but I don't think it's so much that people dislike Dragonite. I think it's moreso some people prefer Dragonair and wish Dragonite looked more like it. It is a pretty drastic change, after all. I don't know if that's what the OP is referring to, but I have seen that opinion thrown around in some corners.
I'll throw out a couple myself.
Delphox is probably one of my favorite Fire types, which is why I was completely crushed when I saw literally everybody trashing it when it was revealed. Granted, it may be because it's 3D model is pretty unflattering, but I still saw many people disappointed it didn't retain the whole "magical girl" look Braixen had (and honestly, I never really cared for Braixen too much; it's too cutesy and girly for my taste). Probably didn't help that Greninja completely stole the show in Gen VI and pushed both it and Chesnaught into the background. But 3D model aside, I absolutely love Delphox's design and think the whole mage concept is creative.
Also, while its design took some getting used to, I'll throw out Alolan Persian as well. While I do prefer Kantonian Persian, I can understand why they went in the direction they did with the Alolan variety, especially since it's supposed to be based on a British shorthair, which are pretty goofy looking cats to begin with. I think what doomed it is that Kantonian Persian has this very sleek, elegant design that people were expecting the Alolan variety to retain, but instead we get this goofy looking cat. But IDK. I kinda like the contrast.
KyogreThunder
Call of Fate
Fearow, Dewgong, Ludicolo, Durant, Mienshao, Dragonite, and Samurott come to mind.
RedJirachi
Veteran member
I think most people are neutral-positive to Minior
Delibird is an interesting case. As a fighter, it's garbage. However it's one of those joke characters which I can't bring myself to hate. It's got a nice Santa design, Delibird is a friendly Pokemon that wants to help. I like Corsola despite it being weak since I feel bad about how Mareanie pick on it, and because Sun and Moon have made it adorable in my eyes
Unown however can burn in a fire
Missingno.Fan
Well-Known Member
I like Trubbish and Garborder. I don’t why but I always found garbage interesting.
OshyHikari
c l a r i t y
I really like the Vanillite line, and is actually one of my fave Ice-types thanks to its interesting concept of being a sentient icicle that is partially covered in snow to give off its ice cream-like image. In addition, Vanilluxe has a BST on par with Lapras, which isn’t anything to joke about.
Unfortunately, as adorable and interesting it is, it has a bad reputation with the fandom, being viewed as one of the “worst” designs of any Pokémon, and is always a victim of the “Game Freak is running out of ideas” criticism.
Unfortunately, as adorable and interesting it is, it has a bad reputation with the fandom, being viewed as one of the “worst” designs of any Pokémon, and is always a victim of the “Game Freak is running out of ideas” criticism.
Nerdy McNerdface
Hmph
*fades in* Carbink is my favourite Pokemon *fades out*
On a more serious note it’s just super cute and is surprisingly good in Battle - having either a Toxic/Psychic/Power Gem/Moonblast combo or a Toxic/Power Gem/Reflect/Light Screen combo works really well thanks to its bulk. Early game it also has Sharpen and Harden, the latter of which further adds to said bulk and the former of which can be used as a combo with Smack Down. Also it became my own personal meme due to how I caught it, what I named it (Not), and how eventually really useful it became.
On a more serious note it’s just super cute and is surprisingly good in Battle - having either a Toxic/Psychic/Power Gem/Moonblast combo or a Toxic/Power Gem/Reflect/Light Screen combo works really well thanks to its bulk. Early game it also has Sharpen and Harden, the latter of which further adds to said bulk and the former of which can be used as a combo with Smack Down. Also it became my own personal meme due to how I caught it, what I named it (Not), and how eventually really useful it became.
Same here with Noctowl. I love its speed as well. And it's shiny form is nice. Hunted for one in X version and it's one of my favorites to use.
Muk and Magmar -- I just love how you can teach them unexpected moves and the latters speed is pretty good.
Bellsprout -- Really like its moveset and speed.
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