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PokeShipping (Ash x Misty) Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Shippers Community' started by Swifty, Jan 28, 2009.

  1. LilyTwo

    LilyTwo Well-Known Member

    Which region was most conductive to Pokeshipping in your opinion?

    Yea, I'd say the Orange Islands as well. That's where we got the most and, in my opinion, most significant hint that there could have been something between the two of them. I still think Misty had the best chemistry with Ash of all female travelling companions, though May and Dawn come close.
     
  2. Seachran

    Seachran Well-Known Member

    Which region was most conductive to Pokeshipping in your opinion?

    Like you all said, the Orange Islands. It started right from the first episode as soon as Brock left. It had the most blatant, obvious examples. Then Movie 2000 was the pinnacle of it all and the crowning moment.

    I see Pokeshipping in each region as different stages of their relationship. Kanto was obliviousness and bonding, Orange Islands was their full-blown crush and denial, and then by Johto they were more mature and accepting.

    One thing I really liked in Johto was the synergy and teamwork they had when they battled together, ex. when they combine their water guns. It also started to really develop their rivalry as trainers, unlike the other regions.
     
  3. Pikachu Fan Number Nine

    Pikachu Fan Number Nine Don't Mess wit Texas

    I must keep this thread alive

    This year marks the 15th anniversary of the US release of the second movie, which was the biggest hint of all in Pokeshipping. Did any of you go see the movie when it first came out in theaters? I did. I did not realize the ramifications regarding Pokeshipping at the time though. I was only 10 when I first saw the movie, didn't become a Pokeshipper until I was 13 and the OS was about to come to an end on the US broadcast.
     
  4. sage striaton

    sage striaton wishfulshipper4ever

    Uhh pokeshipping is one of my Otp!!! I love them and when they are jelous of each other I feel like "awwwww,they will be a couple and they will marry a day".
    At night, when I can't sleep I think "Amour or poke"...And now 'I'm again for pokeshipping...Can I join?
     
  5. Ahhh, Pokeshipping. I always wish that Ash can meet Misty again. Its been many seasons since he didn't.
     
  6. Jackinthebox

    Jackinthebox Misty == awesome

    IF I can recall, which I'm not positive I can, I bought it on VHS maybe? I know I had the first movie. I think it had a pokemon card in it.
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2015
  7. Cortana

    Cortana Misty is the Best

    The best region was the Orange Islands and it was just going be Ash and Misty alone and for some reason they added in Tracey. I have no idea why they did that but my guess is so that there would always be 3 companions and that fans would complain if there wasn't 3 companions, but there was an interview somewhere with the creator of Pokemon and I can't remember where but in it he said that the next generation weren't going to have any of the original characters in it to travel the new region.

    The orange islands was going to finish with Ash and Misty falling in love because that whole Orange Island saga was them admitting their true feelings however a decision was made not to do that and it was re-written. I want to say to whoever made that stupid decision should have not even bothered and the only reason according to the interview was that a new protagonist wouldn't have sold the games or anime well and that they decided to stick with the ain't broke don't fix it line (paraphrasing).

    I can't wait to see what they do to the 20th Anniversary but if they didn't remove the original story and re-write it then Ash and Misty would have fallen in love and Brock would have remained with Professor Ivy and Serena wouldn't have been brought in as a childhood friend.
     
  8. xEryChan

    xEryChan King of the Pirates Staff Member Moderator

    Just to remind you guys.

    Rule #5 on the first post states that one line posts are not allowed here. To clarify, a post that only contains one line of text is considered a one liner. It doesn't matter how many sentences there are. If it doesn't exceed more than one line of text, it is a one liner and therefor considered to be spam. The reasoning of this rule is explained in the Shippers Community Rules, which you all should have read before you started to post here.

    I'm not going to give any warnings or infraction now because of the fact that the two posts I saw were posted in June but I just want to remind you of this rule and encourage you to use the report button if you notice any rule-breaking posts.

    That's all. Carry on, Pokeshippers.
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2015
  9. Hakajin

    Hakajin Obsessive Shipper

    Heheh, I would've been happier with that... But it really did make more sense, from a marketing stand-point, to do what they did. And then, if it had ended like that, I doubt I would've stayed obsessed with Pokeshipping like I did. And then I never would have come up with Satsumi... Well, I'm sure I would've started shipping something else, but I'm not sure what, exactly. And I'm not sure it's a good thing that I stayed obsessed... Well, there are good things and bad things about it. But I definitely wouldn't be in the same place I am now if they'd ended the show with the Orange Islands.
     
  10. Rento

    Rento New Member

    Don't know if it has much sense posting this, but I hope it'll be allright. Personally I think that evolving Ash and Misty's love story would be okay provided the original series not to last for that long... 150 episodes or so would be acceptable. After the gang's splitting up, the creators ought to make a timeskip(in case of their intending to build the plot around them after). A few years, less than 5 for sure. But they drew it out over 5 damned seasons. And I'm not sure that bringing Misty back would make any positive difference to her and Ash's relationship, given the show is going the way it is currently going. Nevertheless, I like how Ash and Misty's mutual feelings were exposed. Ash was, there's no doubt, more than a good friend to Misty, but none was going to state unambigiously that she actually had a crush on him, though there were enough hints about that. It's the really pathetic thing about the original series I love it for so much. And that original drawing style... just AAAWWWWW. Moved me a lot.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2015
  11. Antiyonder

    Antiyonder Well-Known Member

    Interesting. Though whether the show ended afterwards or continue with said development, I would still be iffy on that.

    Personally, even if the show never intended for them to be a couple until say a possible finale, I'd say the pretense of Misty following him because of her bike should have been done away with much sooner than "Gotta Catch Ya Later".

    Preferably way back in the Indigo Season, especially on their return to Viridian City, or at least even the end of the Orange Island since their relationship got more attention at the time.
     
  12. Luthor

    Luthor Well-Known Member

    I have to wonder how Ash's newer friends would react to the presence of Misty back even if only for a short time. Cilan,Clemont Bonnie, Iris & Serena could all make for some very interesting interactions.

    Do you think they would be helpful or a hindrance to pokeshipping?
     
  13. Rento

    Rento New Member

    I suppose by those points you mentioned the creators simply hadn't come up with the idea of writing main characters off. They might displace her whenever they were willing to.
    I also think that maybe it'd be less painful not seeing Misty in the cast for more if the creators had concocted some more sensible rationale for her leaving the show(and not coming back in the future), as it turned out with Brock and May. I liked Brock and I miss him (yet not so much as for Misty, to be honest) but he really had to do parting because even being Ash's best friend he have still had distinct goals to pursue.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2015
  14. Antiyonder

    Antiyonder Well-Known Member

    Not really. What I simply mean is that Gotta Catch Ya Later finally has Misty pretty much admitting to Ash that she really followed him had nothing to do with the bike. But I always though that particular development should have happened much sooner. Not for the sake of giving her a departure, but to deepen their friendship. And it just seemed like their return to Viridian City for the Earth Badge would have been a good chance to do so.
     
  15. Rento

    Rento New Member

    I guess by the time when Gotta Catch Ya Later was made they had not regarded Misty and Ash's relationship as essential for the show anymore for it was going to pass on to the next pokegirl, the next generation series in general. So I doubt the creators were even thinking of any 'particular development' back then or ever else since Johto began. Yet it does keep concerning me why their parting proved more sentient and touching than the other ones (at least it looked so to me) after all.
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2015
  16. Antiyonder

    Antiyonder Well-Known Member

    Maybe so, but even then it seemed like the two following seasons actually made a big deal about his friendship with May and Dawn rather than it being this inferred thing, especially the later (though that could be due to Dawn being treated more as a co-star). It just seems that the original series lacked that for him and Misty.
     
  17. Seachran

    Seachran Well-Known Member

    I always interpreted that the pretense was done away with on their return to Viridian City. At the end of Volcanic Panic, when Misty couldn't remember why she was arguing with him before. I mean, really, it was done away with after the first few episodes when it stopped being mentioned for such a long time. There was also The Water Flowers of Cerulean City, when it was made pretty clear she was traveling with Ash simply because she wanted to travel- and because they were friends.

    I think it's better this way. The friendships with May and Dawn are different altogether, with him being much more of a mentor. Ash and Misty's relationship was slowly built up over the course of the first few seasons, it didn't seem forced, rushed, or unnatural. If writers have to try to "make a big deal about friendship," then in my opinion it's not going to be as good as the organic friendship shown in the OS.
     
  18. Antiyonder

    Antiyonder Well-Known Member

    I don't know. Unless it was a dub thing, the ending of The Misty Mermaid did have her bringing up that he still owes her a bike.
     
  19. Seachran

    Seachran Well-Known Member

    I guess it's up to personal interpretation. By that point, they had long since become close friends who enjoyed traveling together. I didn't see the bike being mentioned as actually relevant, it was just an old joke by that point.

    And for the record, The Misty Mermaid and Volcanic Panic were only one episode apart.
     
  20. Pikachu Fan Number Nine

    Pikachu Fan Number Nine Don't Mess wit Texas

    Must keep this alive.

    I think by the time the OS ended, the bike was only a minor reason Misty was still traveling with Ash. Whether she wanted to admit it or not, she was head over heels for him, and him for her. Hard to believe it's almost been 12 years since the OS ended in America. I've been a Pokeshipper for 12 years now, became one in the summer of 2003 (after I turned 13 the previous January). I've never supported any other shipping involving either one of them, and am quite proud of it. I'll never forget Gotta Catch Ya Later, and I'm sure none of you other Pokeshippers will either. For many of us, in one respect it was the end of an era. But we still persevere as time goes by. We'll never give up hope and that is what makes us strong.
     

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