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PokeShipping (Ash x Misty) Discussion Thread

SerenaRulez

Well-Known Member
Was anyone else a little bit disappointed by how few Pokeshipping hints we got when Misty came back on the show in Sun & Moon? I thought for sure that we would see more lite teasing between Ash and Misty or something that would show us how much they had missed each other but it was pretty bleak. I waited so long to see Misty and Ash together again but I felt that it wasn't good enough.
 

PorcelainVulpix

currently watching LOK
Was anyone else a little bit disappointed by how few Pokeshipping hints we got when Misty came back on the show in Sun & Moon? I thought for sure that we would see more lite teasing between Ash and Misty or something that would show us how much they had missed each other but it was pretty bleak. I waited so long to see Misty and Ash together again but I felt that it wasn't good enough.
When Misty went to Alola, yes. But when Ash and the classmates went to Misty’s gym, we got a lot of cute little hints in When Regions Collide and I was pleasantly surprised. I guess that’s why I was so disappointed when Brock and Misty visited Alola because I expected more
 

Pikachu Fan Number Nine

Don't Mess wit Texas
I wonder if Misty's Azurill has become a Marill by now. This would give both Ash and Misty adult mouse Pokemon. That's something they'd bond over for sure.

I'm hoping for more hints in the 2019 series since it will encompass all the regions.
 

PorcelainVulpix

currently watching LOK
I wonder if Misty's Azurill has become a Marill by now. This would give both Ash and Misty adult mouse Pokemon. That's something they'd bond over for sure.

I'm hoping for more hints in the 2019 series since it will encompass all the regions.
Me too! I mean Ash is already in Kanto and I’m hoping they’ll pay a visit to the cerulean city gym or something. Since this new series is advertising SwSh and Pokémon Go, I wonder if they’ll stick in some advertising for Masters. Brock and Misty play a big role in it
 

pacman000

Well-Known Member
I always thought this scene was cute:





And it's hard to argue that Misty's body language indicates anything but a crush. Well, except for that last frame. ;)
 

pacman000

Well-Known Member
From The Ghost At Maidens Peak:



I usually use this as evidence that Ash likes Misty, but it's not a silver bullet. Ash doesn't change his expression till Misty asks him to dance. That could mean he has a crush on Misty, or t could mean he just thinks dancing sounds fun. Ah well, it's still a cute scene.
 

PorcelainVulpix

currently watching LOK
From The Ghost At Maidens Peak:



I usually use this as evidence that Ash likes Misty, but it's not a silver bullet. Ash doesn't change his expression till Misty asks him to dance. That could mean he has a crush on Misty, or t could mean he just thinks dancing sounds fun. Ah well, it's still a cute scene.
Well, he immediately closes his Pokédex, his draw drops and we get to see Misty from his point of view so I think that’s proof enough! Also, it’s cute how he’s excited to dance with her. This is one of my all time fav pokeshipping (and also one of my all time fav episodes!) Glad to see this thread is still going!
 

pacman000

Well-Known Member
Indeed. I'm being extra strict with what evidences I choose, because I like air-tight arguments.

I'd say closing Dexter could just be a normal part of Ash shifting his focus to the person who just walked up. We do get to see Misty from his view, & the animators used a special background, which helped her stand out, but they use the same background when Jigglypuff sings. It's more of a cute-moment back ground than a love-scene background. Ash looks kinda puzzled till Misty asked him to dance; that's where his mouth drops. If it had dropped right after that shot of her in the Kimono, I'd consider it a better scene.

Still seems obvious they love each other, since they're willing to risk their lives for each other in other scenes. That may not indicate romantic love, but it's still important.
 

PorcelainVulpix

currently watching LOK
Indeed. I'm being extra strict with what evidences I choose, because I like air-tight arguments.

I'd say closing Dexter could just be a normal part of Ash shifting his focus to the person who just walked up. We do get to see Misty from his view, & the animators used a special background, which helped her stand out, but they use the same background when Jigglypuff sings. It's more of a cute-moment back ground than a love-scene background. Ash looks kinda puzzled till Misty asked him to dance; that's where his mouth drops. If it had dropped right after that shot of her in the Kimono, I'd consider it a better scene.

Still seems obvious they love each other, since they're willing to risk their lives for each other in other scenes. That may not indicate romantic love, but it's still important.
No, his mouth had already dropped before that. He didn’t start smiling until she asked him to dance though, is that what you’re talking about?
 

pacman000

Well-Known Member
His mouth was open, but in a small "o" shape. That indicates some sort of reaction, but what sort? I'm going to try to break down the scene now, based on memory...

Someone walks up.
Ash reacts, with his mouth in a small "o" shape. That could mean surprise. But what sort? "Who's here?" or "My goodness Misty actually looks pretty."
There's a POV shot of Misty, dressed up.
Ash still looks surprised. He's had time to figure out "who's here," so perhaps he really is surprised Misty looks pretty when dressed up? That's what I usually thought the scene meant. And that would indicate that Ash potentially had a crush, in my opinion.

I'll probably need to rewatch this scene...again. (I'm being extra hard on this scene, since Shudo wrote the episode, & he said he never meant Ash & Misty to be a couple. And sorry for potentially over analyzing this stuff. At the very least it gives us something to talk about!)
 

PorcelainVulpix

currently watching LOK
His mouth was open, but in a small "o" shape. That indicates some sort of reaction, but what sort? I'm going to try to break down the scene now, based on memory...

Someone walks up.
Ash reacts, with his mouth in a small "o" shape. That could mean surprise. But what sort? "Who's here?" or "My goodness Misty actually looks pretty."
There's a POV shot of Misty, dressed up.
Ash still looks surprised. He's had time to figure out "who's here," so perhaps he really is surprised Misty looks pretty when dressed up? That's what I usually thought the scene meant. And that would indicate that Ash potentially had a crush, in my opinion.

I'll probably need to rewatch this scene...again. (I'm being extra hard on this scene, since Shudo wrote the episode, & he said he never meant Ash & Misty to be a couple. And sorry for potentially over analyzing this stuff. At the very least it gives us something to talk about!)
No don’t be sorry, it’s ok! It’s actually shown to be Misty from the start, so he knows it’s her and that’s when he immediately puts his Pokédex up and his mouth forms the O. Then we see Misty from his POV. Then she asks him to dance. It’s overall a really cute scene and I actually just posted it on Twitter the other day which is why I’m so familiar with it right now

As for Shudo, I have a hard time taking what he said seriously because I read his novelizations (very interesting read, especially with Delia!) and he implies romance between them even that far back, there’s two scenes that come to mind. One involving a nidoran? Anyway, he seemed to give mixed signals like the entire plot of the second movie. I just don’t take that one statement he made seriously because it contradicts the actual material he wrote
 

pacman000

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Haven't had a chance to re-watch that episode again, but I did find this page from a Japanese fan-wiki: https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/サトカス

Seems to use Ash's reaction to Misty in ep20 to say that he likes her. Also has a few other shippy scenes listed.

(I don't know Japanese; I used Google translate read it. I tried to use Pappago from Naver too, but it mangled things too much.)
 
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Mikeachu

Soul Trainer
Haven't had a chance to re-watch that episode again, but I did find this page from a Japanese fan-wiki: https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/サトカス

Seems to use Ash's reaction to Misty in ep20 to say that he likes her. Also has a few other shippy scenes listed.

(I don't know Japanese; I used Google translate read it. I tried to use Pappago from Naver too, but it mangled things too much.)
Nice to see the perspective of Japanese fans on Pokeshipping/Satokasu. There's this narrative online that all Pokeshipping hints were just 4Kids additions & not really a part of the anime. That viewers who watched it in the original language can say otherwise is very welcome.
 

pacman000

Well-Known Member
Nice to see the perspective of Japanese fans on Pokeshipping/Satokasu. There's this narrative online that all Pokeshipping hints were just 4Kids additions & not really a part of the anime. That viewers who watched it in the original language can say otherwise is very welcome.
Indeed. I wish I'd done research on this last year or the year before, singe Geocities.jp was still up, & there might've been contemporary fan reactions there.

As for Shudo's posts.... I dunno. If I combine this post with what he said about Misty, I'd bet he added the romantic-sounding stuff because he didn't know what else to write. Then tried to minimize it in editing because he thought a romantic sub-plot would be distracting. That would explain Maiden's Peak; he simply had nothing else to say, & no way to edit that scene to make it less romantic.
 

Dephender

Gizakawayusu
Staff member
Moderator
Haven't had a chance to re-watch that episode again, but I did find this page from a Japanese fan-wiki: https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/サトカス

Seems to use Ash's reaction to Misty in ep20 to say that he likes her. Also has a few other shippy scenes listed.

(I don't know Japanese; I used Google translate read it. I tried to use Pappago from Naver too, but it mangled things too much.)
It's not referred to as a "hint", really (it's the ones about Kasumi listed further down that are):

"Since Satoshi wasn't as insensible to the idea of romantic relationships in the early days of OS as he is now, we find several scenes where he clearly recognizes Kasumi as a member of the opposite sex, such as
*being captivated by the sight of Kasumi in a yukata (episode 20)
*blushing when the Rocket Gang teases him about what manner of relationship he has with Kasumi (episode 83)
*getting grumpy when a boy that likes Kasumi shows up (episode 103)
The only other scene in the series that depicts him like this is when he looks at a photo of Seiyo (who appeared in episode 9) and remarks that she's really cute."

It's mostly just an acknowledgment that he was written a bit differently in regard to how he thinks about girls in the first 100 or so episodes, it's not about Kasumi specifically.
 

pacman000

Well-Known Member
That might be nice.

I'd like to see a mini-arc where Ash teamed up with some of his old traveling companions, including Misty. Think of the 1st series episodes where Tod/Snap briefly joined the team; something like that.
 
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