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PokeShipping (Ash x Misty) Discussion Thread

Ashmisty

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Haha, oh well, I'm probably the worst Pokeshipper, I didn't know that until now! :"D But now I'm hyped for that day. Still need to finish one more pokeshipping fanart!

On a sidenote, I recently read a lot of fanfictions and browsering fanarts - it's honestly very interesting how different people interpreting misty and ash relationship. Still need to find a statisfiying ending for them in my comic that don't feel tooo cheesy, that's the hardest part xD But not gonna lie, I have a lot of ideas right now - most of them are more "slow burn love". I always thought MIsty and Ash are probably the one couple that needs the longest time to realize that they really like each other.
Only a few writers manage to keep them completely in character, I ain’t complaining though, I think I have read hundreds of stories about them and I have loved each one of their adult versions, except for those sappy stories. I just can’t imagine Ash as someone romantic, that ain’t his personality, for Misty he would try and miserably fail xD. But she chose to put up with all that. His denseness and her inability to confess to him makes me think of that line from Rudy “ you are a very lucky guy Ash”. The anime is over but the guy still didn’t realise how lucky he was! And I do think Misty should have been more expressive, not to throw him off guard or possibly scare him off, but she never developed the courage to straight up confess. Was I expecting too much? May be. But my heart hurts sometimes thinking about how we never got a resolution for them :(
 

Srsddf4781

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Haha, oh well, I'm probably the worst Pokeshipper, I didn't know that until now! :"D But now I'm hyped for that day. Still need to finish one more pokeshipping fanart!

On a sidenote, I recently read a lot of fanfictions and browsering fanarts - it's honestly very interesting how different people interpreting misty and ash relationship. Still need to find a statisfiying ending for them in my comic that don't feel tooo cheesy, that's the hardest part xD But not gonna lie, I have a lot of ideas right now - most of them are more "slow burn love". I always thought MIsty and Ash are probably the one couple that needs the longest time to realize that they really like each other.
Yep! Everybody on here is totally going to support your work.
Only a few writers manage to keep them completely in character, I ain’t complaining though, I think I have read hundreds of stories about them and I have loved each one of their adult versions, except for those sappy stories. I just can’t imagine Ash as someone romantic, that ain’t his personality, for Misty he would try and miserably fail xD. But she chose to put up with all that. His denseness and her inability to confess to him makes me think of that line from Rudy “ you are a very lucky guy Ash”. The anime is over but the guy still didn’t realise how lucky he was! And I do think Misty should have been more expressive, not to throw him off guard or possibly scare him off, but she never developed the courage to straight up confess. Was I expecting too much? May be. But my heart hurts sometimes thinking about how we never got a resolution for them :(
How does the company make this right, though? I think they tried desperately to give all the different female Sato- companion ships the best sendoff that they could~ Nobody wins. I’d say we definitely got fed more than any other though. Kasumi got the spend the most time with Satoshi before his retirement as a main character. We’re so lucky the Pokémon company cares about this pairing as much as it does, else we wouldn’t have even gotten her blushing in MPM ep 2. Boy that blew up the internet. People freaked out!
 

Ashmisty

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Yep! Everybody on here is totally going to support your work.

How does the company make this right, though? I think they tried desperately to give all the different female Sato- companion ships the best sendoff that they could~ Nobody wins. I’d say we definitely got fed more than any other though. Kasumi got the spend the most time with Satoshi before his retirement as a main character. We’re so lucky the Pokémon company cares about this pairing as much as it does, else we wouldn’t have even gotten her blushing in MPM ep 2. Boy that blew up the internet. People freaked out!
I get what you are saying. Of course they cared about this ship enough to give us hints even during the last arc of Ash as a MC! The second episode is full of hints. They went as far as that “red string of fate” reference, and the lure wrapping around his wrist part,interestingly the camera chose to focus on that. I ain’t talking about the ship becoming canon, these are just kids, and no ship was gonna win, shipping should never be about competition in the first place IMO. I just wanted Misty to be a little more expressive towards Ash regarding her feelings, not talking about this latest series, because the canonical representation of their characters in these new seasons doesn’t go hand in hand with that. May be they could have done that in the OS, they had plenty of opportunities, I can understand why they chose to take the safe path, but the shipper inside me does get a bit ticked off, if that makes sense xD. I have read plenty of HCs and fanfictions about Misty confessing to Ash, for once I wanted to see how the writers would have actually done that in the anime. I still love their sunset scene in GCYL. How soft her tone became while giving farewell to him, that was something which Misty rarely did xD
 

Srsddf4781

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I get what you are saying. Of course they cared about this ship enough to give us hints even during the last arc of Ash as a MC! The second episode is full of hints. They went as far as that “red string of fate” reference, and the lure wrapping around his wrist part,interestingly the camera chose to focus on that. I ain’t talking about the ship becoming canon, these are just kids, and no ship was gonna win, shipping should never be about competition in the first place IMO. I just wanted Misty to be a little more expressive towards Ash regarding her feelings, not talking about this latest series, because the canonical representation of their characters in these new seasons doesn’t go hand in hand with that. May be they could have done that in the OS, they had plenty of opportunities, I can understand why they chose to take the safe path, but the shipper inside me does get a bit ticked off, if that makes sense xD. I have read plenty of HCs and fanfictions about Misty confessing to Ash, for once I wanted to see how the writers would have actually done that in the anime. I still love their sunset scene in GCYL. How soft her tone became while giving farewell to him, that was something which Misty rarely did xD
Yeah. I feel you. No ‘GCYL’ moment felt like a punch to the gut for me. Both as a pokeshipper and as an AniPoke fan. At least we saw how Psyduck and Pikachu were feeling. Anything anyone else was wishing for?
 

SunGodNika1997

You can call me Tanner.
Yeah. I feel you. No ‘GCYL’ moment felt like a punch to the gut for me. Both as a pokeshipper and as an AniPoke fan. At least we saw how Psyduck and Pikachu were feeling. Anything anyone else was wishing for?
Wish we would have seen more of Ash and Misty’s classic banter. Sure, MPM02 was great, but we didn’t really see much of that in the proceeding episodes. Would have really made things feel more like the old days.
 

Srsddf4781

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Wish we would have seen more of Ash and Misty’s classic banter. Sure, MPM02 was great, but we didn’t really see much of that in the proceeding episodes. Would have really made things feel more like the old days.
Well, she was certainly touchy- feely with him the entire final season. That is exactly how she’s always been with him. I really enjoyed the ‘Misty’s Favor’ reference. Our boi knows exactly what to do to prompt a response, even when it’s not necessary.
 

SunGodNika1997

You can call me Tanner.
Well, she was certainly touchy- feely with him the entire final season. That is exactly how she’s always been with him. I really enjoyed the ‘Misty’s Favor’ reference. Our boi knows exactly what to do to prompt a response, even when it’s not necessary.
Yeah, that’s all true for sure. Just definitely like to see the teasing side of their relationship on top of that stuff. It’s practically their love language. XD
 

Srsddf4781

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Yeah, that’s all true for sure. Just definitely like to see the teasing side of their relationship on top of that stuff. It’s practically their love language. XD
‘Sun & Moon’ should have driven it home for people. TCPI cut out scenes in their dub sadly, but if Kasumi can no longer tease Satoshi about being a less than experienced trainer, she’ll have to find something else to get his attention. “You’re still childish, though” (blushing). “What do you mean by childish” (blushing)? “See, you’re proving my point” (blushing)? *Hearts appearing around both characters
 

Sirunala

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Eh, you're good. I only knew because a handful of people on Twitter were talking about it several weeks ago.

Also, best of luck with finishing your comic! Would love to see you share it here once it's done. Sounds interesting.
Yep! Everybody on here is totally going to support your work.
Thanks! I will share the chapters at some point in the future - but right now the focus of the comic isn't pokeshipping, so the pages would probably be off topic.

But I can share this one:
(it feels a bit strange to share my own art - or is this just me? :"D )



More great vintage fan art. Gotta love to see it.
I love the second one! I always wanted a scene in the anime were Ash and Misty are riding a bike together - would be kind of funny considering how their journey started.

Also I found this on Twitter:
It's pretty cute. Still love MPM2. I'm glad we got this last cute episode in MPM : D
 

Srsddf4781

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Thanks! I will share the chapters at some point in the future - but right now the focus of the comic isn't pokeshipping, so the pages would probably be off topic.

But I can share this one:
(it feels a bit strange to share my own art - or is this just me? :"D )



I love the second one! I always wanted a scene in the anime were Ash and Misty are riding a bike together - would be kind of funny considering how their journey started.

Also I found this on Twitter:
It's pretty cute. Still love MPM2. I'm glad we got this last cute episode in MPM : D
See? You said you were a bad pokeshipper, lol. You’re not bad at all! You’re helping the community with this amazing fanart and comic coming up.

UPDATE On Pokeshipping Subs: We are slowly uploading all pokeshipping hints in the entirety of the anime on r/aaml but we will not have acess to the Johto and Hoenn arcs… YET. There are no current proper subs for those seasons. I have acess to the rest. If and when ‘Satoshi’sMom’ and ‘SOSSubs’ gets done subbing those two arcs, (You can message them on discord) we will upload those two arcs’ subbed pokeshipping moments.
 

SunGodNika1997

You can call me Tanner.
Thanks! I will share the chapters at some point in the future - but right now the focus of the comic isn't pokeshipping, so the pages would probably be off topic.

But I can share this one:
(it feels a bit strange to share my own art - or is this just me? :"D )



I love the second one! I always wanted a scene in the anime were Ash and Misty are riding a bike together - would be kind of funny considering how their journey started.

Also I found this on Twitter:
It's pretty cute. Still love MPM2. I'm glad we got this last cute episode in MPM : D
Your art is fantastic there! Please never hesitate to share your own work. You did a great job!
 

Srsddf4781

Well-Known Member
Flaming/Insulting Other People
So, not to get off topic, but apparently there was a bit of drama going on with the AniPoke staff. Anyone remember how I commented on how some of crazed shipping warriors were going too far a little while back? Well, the mistranslations that have now spread across the internet as the verbatim translation and rumors of certain staff retiring have seemed to finally caught up with Rica Matsumoto. She doesn’t seem too happy that people are trying to claim she’s retiring as a voice actress and that this was one of the reasons for the show ending. Here’s Rica Matsumoto’s tweet: Read the comment section. Sad stuff.
 

Gantai

Member
Yeah, guess it's easier to point fingers at innocent people than admit Ash had his run.
Is it mostly foreigner fans' fault due to mistranslated posts?
I don't get why Mayumi would receive hate as well tho. Was it before MPM aired?
 

Srsddf4781

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Yeah, guess it's easier to point fingers at innocent people than admit Ash had his run.
Is it mostly foreigner fans' fault due to mistranslated posts?
I don't get why Mayumi would receive hate as well tho. Was it before MPM aired?
Doesn’t seem so. This was posted on the 27th. Articles started using Dephender’s opinion translation instead of his original translation. Looks like things got outta hand from there. If someone knows more about this than me, feel free to fill us all in. Here’s where a few people caught on to some mistakes:
 
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Dephender

Gizakawayusu
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Doesn’t seem so. This was posted on the 27th. Articles started using Dephender’s opinion translation instead of his original translation. Looks like things got outta hand from there. If someone knows more about this than me, feel free to fill us all in. Here’s where a few people caught on to some mistakes:

This is massively off topic, but there were no mistakes in that post (which was neither an opinion nor a translation), just Twitter being Twitter and getting the context wrong:

Man, I've been looking through a bunch of these comments about my paraphrasing of what Yuyama said in that recent interview and there's... quite some interesting takes there.

So here's the thing... that was not some post written in disgruntled anger over his direction. I'm NOT upset over his direction, hell, I said elsewhere that my impression is that he was never particularly on board with PM2019 making Satoshi suddenly get some absurd power boost and become the best trainer in the world, and that MPM was him steering the show back on track.

The post was also not an OPINION, it was some quick summarizing of what he was actually doing as opposed to what some people were assuming he was doing, in response to a post asking why we needed another Latias/Latios plot:

1) The reason we got a Latias/Latios plot is not because Yuyama felt we needed one. We got one because he wanted a running subplot about a Pokemon observing Satoshi throughout these episodes before eventually asking him for help. He picked Latias as this Pokemon not because he wanted to do something with Latias (and Latios) specifically. Not because he wanted another Latias/Latios plot. Not because of anything related to movie 5. But because of the specific qualities of Latias as a species (flight, invisibility, etc). And now that the series has ended, we know that nothing particularly important came of the entire Latias thing.

2) The reason Kasumi and Takeshi were in MPM was not because Yuyama had any specific plans for those two characters. It's not because he had any episodes in mind that necessitated them being there. It's because he felt Satoshi needed travelmates for these episodes. The specific characters were picked afterwards. He doesn't remember exactly why they went for those beyond "everyone just kinda agreed", but the reason they're in the show is ultimately because he didn't want Satoshi to travel alone, not because he wanted Satoshi to travel with Kasumi and Takeshi again or because he had some Kasumi- or Takeshi-specific plans in mind. And now that the series has ended, we know that nothing particularly important came of those two specific characters being there for another couple episodes.

3) The purpose of episode 9 was not to write out the Rocket trio or set up some big finale involving Satoshi taking out Sakaki or whatever else was being speculated. It was because Yuyama wanted to do an episode where the old Rocketmons came back. And now that the series has ended, we know that nothing particularly important came of anything that happened in that episode.

4) Most of the episodes in MPM were written because they needed more episodes in the show and came up with something they felt like doing. Yuyama spells out quite clearly in the comment for episode 8 that they came up with by essentially going "okay, we need another episode, any ideas?" "We didn't do an episode about Ghost types yet, we could do that." "Good idea. Hey, these zukan entries about Juppeta being a possessed puppet searching for its former owner are pretty interesting and we never did an episode about that concept. Let's do that." They weren't concluding dangling plot threads or setting up some sort of big finale that would relate back to plot points established throughout these episodes, they were just coming up with episodes until they had 11 of them. And now that the series has ended, we know that the final episode was pretty standalone and nothing particularly important came of anything that happened in any of the prior 10.

None of this is opinions, it's all straight facts from the interview that was right there for people to read.

Of course, I could've written this indepth breakdown of what I was actually trying to get across two weeks ago had people actually bothered asking instead of just having weird debates among themselves on other websites where all relevant context is ignored, but...
 

Ashmisty

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Well, she was certainly touchy- feely with him the entire final season. That is exactly how she’s always been with him. I really enjoyed the ‘Misty’s Favor’ reference. Our boi knows exactly what to do to prompt a response, even when it’s not necessary.
Yeah well I find it amusing how touchy feely they are with each other. It used to happen during OS as well. Also who could forget that post credits scene from Sun n moon, where she was teasing him about his Z-ring, it’s like she finds excuses to touch him xD She also keeps on giving him those winks, I wonder if that’s her subtle way of flirting xD
 

Srsddf4781

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Yeah well I find it amusing how touchy feely they are with each other. It used to happen during OS as well. Also who could forget that post credits scene from Sun n moon, where she was teasing him about his Z-ring, it’s like she finds excuses to touch him xD She also keeps on giving him those winks, I wonder if that’s her subtle way of flirting xD
The winks started in Johto and seem to always be shown when either showing off or expressing agreement. I can’t say I’ve ever seen any exact reference as to why she properly winks. You could definitely be right.
 

Ashmisty

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The winks started in Johto and seem to always be shown when either showing off or expressing agreement. I can’t say I’ve ever seen any exact reference as to why she properly winks. You could definitely be right.
And also she gives it just to him. I would have found it quite normal had she made it a habit of winking at all her friends but those winks are reserved for him only ;) She even went a step ahead and was low key flirting with him by being all touchy and blushing in Sun and Moon. Why did she feel the need to wrap her lure around his wrist to catch his attention in MPM02? And just right after she winked at him yet again! Kasumi definitely flirts with Satoshi and greatly enjoys it as well!
 
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