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Predictions for Charizard for the rest of this arc?

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Hudsonn98

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I don't even care what's happening now

I am just freaking glad Charizard is OUT of that stupid, cliched, cheeky, gimmick, no-business-in-Johto valley and I honestly hope he doesn't go back. After this arc, he deserves retirement in Oak's Corral, and I hope that comes to be.
Chariard probably would prefer to live and train with other Charizard at the Valley rather than futz around at Oak's lab.
 

Demonsead

Hoenn Challenger
I really don't care what Charizard does.
 

Pepsi_Plunge

Dojyaaa~~aan
Chariard probably would prefer to live and train with other Charizard at the Valley rather than futz around at Oak's lab.

Not like the Oak pokemon aren't training, all the ones that came back to the show came back improved, training with Infernape, Krokoodile, Snorlax, etc can help him get stronger that probably trainings against Charizard that are the same species.

Like Thriller I would like all of Satoshi to be at Oak, mainly because I like to see them all together when we get lab episodes(that hasn't happened since Hoenn) or possible cameo appearances.
 

I-am-the-peel

Justice Forever
Not like the Oak pokemon aren't training, all the ones that came back to the show came back improved, training with Infernape, Krokoodile, Snorlax, etc can help him get stronger that probably trainings against Charizard that are the same species.

Like Thriller I would like all of Satoshi to be at Oak, mainly because I like to see them all together when we get lab episodes(that hasn't happened since Hoenn) or possible cameo appearances.

That would solve many problems, but as said above, it just doesn't suit some of the pokemon's personalities. Charizard would want to keep training in the Valley, being with Charla, getting stronger (I know it could get stronger at the Lab, but it would just battle the same pokemon over and over, and would want a "Real" challenge in other charizards). Squirtle too, has the responsibilities of leading the Squirtle Squad.

The only ones I could ever see coming back from training is Gliscor, and to a lesser extent, Primeape. Gliscor was only allowed to go off with the Air Master to master Giga Impact and to train. By the time of the Sinnoh League, he returned, mastered Giga Impact, mastered several flying techniques and proved his strength to Ash and Paul. With that, I don't see any point in him returning to the Air Master, other than "Getting stronger". And as you said, it could grow stronger at the Lab, so with the exception of specialist training, I don't see the point. As for Primeape....Well it's both wishful thinking and the idea that it would actually retire as a boxer pokemon, and fight in actual pokemon battles.

Personally, I think they'll be some story of sorts at the end of the saga, where Ash will send Charizard back to the Valley, and Iris will say "What, are you crazy? That's your strongest pokemon, why are you such a kid and want to send it away?". Then, that could prompt Ash and Charizard to reassess their relationship, and perhaps question the idea of Charizard permenantely staying at the Charific Valley, permenantely staying at Oak's to be called upon, or to just try and split the two previous ideas.
 

adamfitz

poké-lover
I may be alone but I'm hating charizard for coming back
I mean unfezant had very little development
I'd rather have focus on other pokemon than one of ashes top notch ones
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Anyway yeah I think maybe the iris V ash episode maybe they will battle
Or else the Clair one
But I'm seeing the Clair one focusing around iris more
 

Lorde

Let's go to the beach, each.
I may be alone but I'm hating charizard for coming back

You're not alone. I know a few people who didn't want him to come back. I was one of them, but I gave him a chance because I assumed that he was going to battle against Reshiram or something during Episode N, which would've justified his return. Well, that didn't happen and now he's taken over Unfezant's role and it just seems degrading. I don't particularly like Charizard, but even I feel that it's messed up to give such a powerful Pokemon mundane tasks. Charizard's isn't using his full potential so his return seems pointless imo.
 

IcySealeo

Well-Known Member
I totally forgot about Charizard. I think it should have returned to the valley when Episode N ended. It is just going to appear in a few episodes in DA and it is really a waste because you can't bring back Charizard for some lame episodes when most of the time it is in its Pokeball.

People were happy that the writers treat Charizard like a normal Pokemon now, but I don't think it should be like that. Charizard is a legend in the anime, so I was totally okay and happy when it came back to Episode N to fight but now it is just a waste.
 

WaterShuriken

"I..I..Iron Tail, Pikachu."
People were happy that the writers treat Charizard like a normal Pokemon now, but I don't think it should be like that. Charizard is a legend in the anime, so I was totally okay and happy when it came back to Episode N to fight but now it is just a waste.

That is exactly why I like the fact that he's being used as a normal Pokemon. Do you know how sick it gets to see comments in forums, youtube, etc. that always say "Ash should bring Charizard back" "If Ash used Charizard he would have won" "Charizard is the strongest of all of Ash's pokemon" even if the episode or video had nothing to do with Charizard. The only reason why Charizard is considered a legend is because it was brought only for specific fights. So having it being treated just like any other of Ash's pokemon is a nice breath of fresh air.
 

CyberCubed

Yeah, ok!
Charizard should have left by now. Why the writers aren't using this time to bring back other old pokemon from Oak's is beyond me.
 

Cresselia92

SM Ash = New Ash
Charizard should have left by now. Why the writers aren't using this time to bring back other old pokemon from Oak's is beyond me.

Yeah, I'm questioning that too. I'd rather see other Pokemon than seeing Charizard getting squat.
 

Blue Saturday

Violet Prince❤️
At least we're getting Butterfree, thankfully for only one episode maybe. Not largely enthusiastic about Charizard just lying around in BW anymore.
 

Shneak

this is a Nessa x Sonia stan account ✨
I may be alone but I'm hating charizard for coming back
I mean unfezant had very little development
I'd rather have focus on other pokemon than one of ashes top notch ones

You're not alone. I'm here for you. I admit, though, that I'm loving Charizard being useless. I'm so glad that it's generally not stealing screen-time. Seeing the legion of fans deciding he shouldn't have shown up is spectacular.

I predict reserves development to be uncommon.
 

fitzy909

Just another guy
You're not alone. I'm here for you. I admit, though, that I'm loving Charizard being useless. I'm so glad that it's generally not stealing screen-time. Seeing the legion of fans deciding he shouldn't have shown up is spectacular.

I predict reserves development to be uncommon.

i didn't like its' unnecessary appearance. it was just brought in and took the screen time from his current unova pokemon. i guess it will be involved in the clair episode, but i don't see the point in it being brought into the anime again.
 

☭Azimuth_055☣

Thou enraged?
All I can predict about Charizard's future appearance is with Clair's. Maybe it will battle alongside Ash once again, and will then return back to the valley.
 

Caseydia

Ace Trainer
That is exactly why I like the fact that he's being used as a normal Pokemon. Do you know how sick it gets to see comments in forums, youtube, etc. that always say "Ash should bring Charizard back" "If Ash used Charizard he would have won" "Charizard is the strongest of all of Ash's pokemon" even if the episode or video had nothing to do with Charizard. The only reason why Charizard is considered a legend is because it was brought only for specific fights. So having it being treated just like any other of Ash's pokemon is a nice breath of fresh air.

I applause this. I was getting tired of those rants too. I mean they did that in these forums as well before Ash was about to go through the Unova league. Since the writers didn't want Ash to win the league anyway, who knew if Charizard would have lost just as well as Pikachu due to plot convince. I'm so glad they aren't making Charizard to be a God anymore than any of the other pokemon he has. So maybe we can get to another league without people yet again whining about it sweeping it.
 

Everlasting

Everything stays.
I just want him to get away and leave a space for a Pokémon that really needs to be shown and used in Ash's team.
 

OceanicLanturn

Non non non!
Charizard seems more like a normal pokemon now, but honestly, the act of bringing back charizard smells like 'heres Charizard so stop whining' or it's just for fanservice. Why bring he back when he is just going to take up one team space, do nothing in particular? What does he have that the current Unova members, underdeveloped, don't have?

IMO I hated how they brought him back and didn't bother to do anything with it, and just leave it there to rot in its Pokeball, and take up team space lol.
 

Kein

AKA Silktree
IMO I hated how they brought him back and didn't bother to do anything with it, and just leave it there to rot in its Pokeball, and take up team space lol.
He's not taking up team space for the simple reason that the only Pokémon of Ash's that we see these days are Pikachu and Oshawott. Things wouldn't be any better with Unfezant or anyone else replacing Charizard.

The problem isn't limited to Charizard. It's Pokémon handling in general.
 

OceanicLanturn

Non non non!
He's not taking up team space for the simple reason that the only Pokémon of Ash's that we see these days are Pikachu and Oshawott. Things wouldn't be any better with Unfezant or anyone else replacing Charizard.

The problem isn't limited to Charizard. It's Pokémon handling in general.

True. I'm just unsatisfied that they're bringing back Charizard and have him do nothing and stone there in his Pokeball. I'm definitely not a fan of Charizard, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth and I can't really enjoy future returns of Pokemon I like.
 

ludiloco

Well-Known Member
So is this another "I hate Charizard" thread? Well, people whining about it is not fresh news to me.
 
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