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predictions of the future Scarlet and Violet anime

Ray123

Member
Okay here my Speculation idea for next gen anime

You know when Ash started his journey his friends where Gym Leaders(Misty and Brock and others), so what if now that Ash is a champion and number 1 or 2 in the WCS his new friends are upgraded to E4 or the gen 9 champion, We never get a main cast character that is an E4 or a champion right.

What do you guys think?.
 

AJ97

Well-Known Member
Ash loses to Leon in the finals and the latter stays Monarch while PWC ranks reset.
The new Scarlet and Violent Champion enters the PWC and shocks everyone by defeating Leon in the PWC.
He/She then quit the PWC and Ash really wants to battle him/her.

The S&V Anime series have an Orange Island/Mainline game type design where one must defeat a set of Gym Leaders/ Elite four members to challenge the champion.

Ash decides to travel to the new Region and gather all the necessary badges etc to challenge the S&V Champion.
 

LeNewbiee

Active Member
Ash loses to Leon in the finals and the latter stays Monarch while PWC ranks reset.
The new Scarlet and Violent Champion enters the PWC and shocks everyone by defeating Leon in the PWC.
He/She then quit the PWC and Ash really wants to battle him/her.

The S&V Anime series have an Orange Island/Mainline game type design where one must defeat a set of Gym Leaders/ Elite four members to challenge the champion.

Ash decides to travel to the new Region and gather all the necessary badges etc to challenge the S&V Champion.
The S&V region champion should be the antagonist for that series as well... There isn't an evil region champion yet.
 

World Turtle

Well-Known Member
The S&V region champion should be the antagonist for that series as well... There isn't an evil region champion yet.
I don't think they need to be evil just a jerk.

I do like the idea of the SV Champion being Ash's rival for the next series. Not sure what sort of relationship they should have. Should they be friendly or antagonistic like Paul was?
 

LeNewbiee

Active Member
I don't think they need to be evil just a jerk.

I do like the idea of the SV Champion being Ash's rival for the next series. Not sure what sort of relationship they should have. Should they be friendly or antagonistic?
I mean like the champion is also the leader of an evil organization and is the main villain. Dunno why they haven't thought of that yet..... even in the games. Closest we had that is when N beat Alder in BW.
 

World Turtle

Well-Known Member
I mean like the champion is also the leader of an evil organization and is the main villain. Dunno why they haven't thought of that yet..... even in the games. Closest we had that is when N beat Alder in BW.
Probably because then they can’t be brought back for a tournament arc like the other champions if they’re dead or in jail.

If SV has a school setting the champion might be young and only be a few years older than Ash. If they’re antagonistic they’d be to quote TVTropes a Jerk Jock or Alpha ***** and the evil team would be their posse. Not exactly a “conquer the world” group.
 

AJ97

Well-Known Member
The S&V region champion should be the antagonist for that series as well... There isn't an evil region champion yet.
Well before, Ash was always shown to be substantially weaker than Elite four members and even more weaker than Regional Champions. Hence, if a Regional Champion was an antagonist, there would've been literally no stopping him/her.

I guess that changes now in Journeys. Hence, it certainly is possible to include a Regional Champion as the main atagonist.
 

Speared

Member
Ash losing to Leon and then time skipping a few years could work. Let him take time off from battling and mature only for him to come back wanting his chance at victory.

Let him go through the plot of SV (quickly) as a ramp up to the start of another PWC. That way they can showcase the new region and pokemon and then bring back the journeys style of old friends/Pokémon (except he’ll actually use his reserves throughout).
 

Shadao

Champion GETTO DA ZE!
Ash losing to Leon and then time skipping a few years could work. Let him take time off from battling and mature only for him to come back wanting his chance at victory.

Let him go through the plot of SV (quickly) as a ramp up to the start of another PWC. That way they can showcase the new region and pokemon and then bring back the journeys style of old friends/Pokémon (except he’ll actually use his reserves throughout).
The moment you use Time Skip to justify switching out Leon for a stronger Champion, you might as well have Ash win.

A few years is enough time for Ash to lose the World Champion Title to someone else. And that alone would be enough to justify Ash travelling in SV.
 

SoraFan23

Generation 4 was how I got into Pokémon
Honestly after seeing Ash losing in the Kalos league but him winning in the Alola League I honestly don't care at this point. Regardless of whatever the outcome is I'm still wondering when he's going to become that "Pokémon Master" that he's always dreamed of because we heard it so many times. Time and time I always heard him say "I am going to go to this new region which will make me become stronger and become a Pokemon Master". So if I would guess it would just be Ash starting fresh by going to the new region just with Pikacku and then suddenly meeting someone new who becomes the new traveler.
 

World Turtle

Well-Known Member
TBF there has been a gradual sense of progress in Ash's goal.

Top 16, Top 8, Top 8, Top 4, Top 8 (a hiccup but every journey has those), Top 2, Champion, from there he's gone up from the regionals to the nationals with the PWC.

If he beats Leon he becomes the World Champion.

"What next?" is a very good question.

Finally becoming a Pokemon Master would be the next logical step for Ash, but would the writers actually do it? I'm not going to say no, but I won't say yes either because it would supposedly mean the end of Ash's journey and is that a line that they'd be willing to cross?
 

Speared

Member
The moment you use Time Skip to justify switching out Leon for a stronger Champion, you might as well have Ash win.

A few years is enough time for Ash to lose the World Champion Title to someone else. And that alone would be enough to justify Ash travelling in SV.
I’m not intending on having Leon being replaced. He’d still be No. 1. I’m using a time skip to help mature Ash. Show him not winning really get to him and needing to take time off.

After the time skip Ash would decide that he’s ready to enter the fray again and uses the SV plot line to get himself back into shape so to speak. We can give SV proper showcasing. Give him a team that he grows with like the usual new gen anime was. Then use the PWC as a battle frontier/journeys season again with Ash training his SV team and reserves to get back into M8.
 

Gingertail24

Well-Known Member
I’m not intending on having Leon being replaced. He’d still be No. 1. I’m using a time skip to help mature Ash. Show him not winning really get to him and needing to take time off.

After the time skip Ash would decide that he’s ready to enter the fray again and uses the SV plot line to get himself back into shape so to speak. We can give SV proper showcasing. Give him a team that he grows with like the usual new gen anime was. Then use the PWC as a battle frontier/journeys season again with Ash training his SV team and reserves to get back into M8.
The thing is ash has already done the whole "not winning/depression" arc. Multiple times even. So the fact he needs a whole year to get over something he should of already known by now feels pointless

Then it feels even worse to repeat pwc again
 

LeNewbiee

Active Member
TBF there has been a gradual sense of progress in Ash's goal.

Top 16, Top 8, Top 8, Top 4, Top 8 (a hiccup but every journey has those), Top 2, Champion, from there he's gone up from the regionals to the nationals with the PWC.

If he beats Leon he becomes the World Champion.

"What next?" is a very good question.

Finally becoming a Pokemon Master would be the next logical step for Ash, but would the writers actually do it? I'm not going to say no, but I won't say yes either because it would supposedly mean the end of Ash's journey and is that a line that they'd be willing to cross?
Maybe he will lose PWC this year then compete on the next (with new people on masters 8 next series) ?

It took him many attempts to win regional, I don't see why it wouldn't be the same for PWC.

Being in the top eight strongest in the world is already an improvement for Ash. Also, dunno why others don't want PWC arc in the next series going forward. I like the idea.
 

solrocknroll

S-Class Connoisseur Fan
I actually like the idea of Ash backsliding from one era to the next to showcase that you can’t always be the absolute number one, nor can you always win, but Unova didn’t make really anything of it besides like a brief nod that Ash was disappointed in his placement. Making it a legitimate loss at Top 8 against Virgil would have been a lot different.
 

Gingertail24

Well-Known Member
Maybe he will lose PWC this year then compete on the next (with new people on masters 8 next series) ?

It took him many attempts to win regional, I don't see why it wouldn't be the same for PWC.

Being in the top eight strongest in the world is already an improvement for Ash. Also, dunno why others don't want PWC arc in the next series going forward. I like the idea.
The issue is how does the pwc again develop his character. You can see his character is a bit stagnant considering they tried the whole depression arc thing and failed at that.

It's not just about what can ash do for the next region, but how can we develop and explore his character further.
 

Rune Knight

Well-Known Member
Maybe his next competitive feat could revolve around maintaining his Monarch title through matches and rematches against new and past opponents respectively, including the ones that he has lost to before. While the main story itself could focus on something entirely different.

I was also thinking of something like an illegal or "underground" league headed by an evil organization and the general public doesn't know about, and that his main objective would involve taking it down by defeating the people there.

What would make the underground league illegal would involve the use of illegal moves or enhancements that trainers would force upon their Pokémon to win battles. A nod to real world trading and cheating in a sense. And maybe the trainers there could also own a bunch of shinies.

I would like the next series to focus on more mature aspects, but this might arguably be a little too dark for a kid's show.
 
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Eevee903

Yare Yare
I believe if Ash wins the PWC, that this would be the ideal excuse for him to become a supporting character. Think about, he has appeared less in episodes like JN110,JN111,JN113,JN032,... etc. He needs to defend his title offscreen.
 
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