Private RPG Discussion

[Shadowfaith]

This thread may only be used by Myself, InnerFlame, Nylf, MerkelHog, Shadows Follower, Evan-Master Trainer (Maybe) and The Burnt Shadow (Maybe).

Okay so the whole point of this thread is to come up with a successful RPG that we all agree on. Granted it will be difficult as we all have different ideas. I like to think of it as somewhat of a project. I’m sure that when/ if we come up with an RPG it will be something for us all to enjoy as well as a successful one.

My theory is that if we all make one to our likings, then the RPG will be more successful as it will have elements that we each like. But to do this it will require team work and it won’t be a walk in the park.

So our main task at the moment is to come up with ideas for a plot. First off would be the comeuppance of a general theme for the RPG. So for beginners, I would like to hear some of your ideas for a plot. Just something that you would enjoy yourself without any consideration of what others would enjoy.

Feel free to posts comments on others Ideas.

So this can include a small summery, whether it is to be based on a game or made up from scratch, and further more what time it will be set in and what the element of the RPG is.


As for me, I would not mind an RPG set on Kingdom Hearts. True there are many of them now, but I have yet to participate in one that has kicked off. With the release of Kingdom Hearts II, it would be hard to come up with a further plot, but there is always a way of course.

Another would be one based loosely on Wolf’s Rain. It would not be based on the plot, characters or story, but based on just mere elements of the anime. Such as taking on the appearance of an animal instead of a human and embarking on a quest in search of something.

Final Fantasy based RPG’s have always been a liking of mine. So something based off of the game (but not following any of the plot) would be ideal for me also. I find there’s nothing better than the classic ‘defeat the evil villain’ type plot. Or it could be a type of free RPG, like Tactics Advance where you are put in control of your own clan and embark on a journey to defeat other clans or complete random quests.

Another idea for an RPG I have had lately is little strange to tell the truth. But I seemed to have gotten it from a mixture of Final Fantasy X-2’s dress sphere system and Cardcaptor Sakura. Where monsters (for some reason) have been set free and it’s up to our group to defeat and collect all of them once again. But perhaps different enemies call for different abilities and we get the abilities from spheres (or some other object) that allows us to change our appearance (to say one of a samurais or a black mage) in order to use them. Or perhaps change our appearance so as we can use different elements, or even transform into other creatures.

Well, that’s all I have for the time being.

All you need to express in some of the next few posts are some of your own ideas, or comments on ones stated before.

I’m not sure if this RPG will be a success as it will be difficult to come up with an RPG to all of our likings. But if we can get a small plot, then we can enhance it to all of our likings.

 

[Shadows Follower]

I would like to start this off.

1) I don't want it to be something based on another thing (Pokemon, Sonic etc) as I've tried them before and I'd like to try something different. Then again my only excetion would be a Final Fantasy/Kingdom Hearts RPG but they can be quite original by themselves.

2) We could try and RPG where theres a war, two sides to it and a third evil enters and the two have to put their differences aside to stop it (boy thats a classic idea).

3) We could try a little horror (zombies, skeletons, necromancers etc). Not much like that around.

4) The basic idea of an element based RPG (Fire, water, thunder etc).

Another idea for an RPG I have had lately is little strange to tell the truth. But I seemed to have gotten it from a mixture of Final Fantasy X-2’s dress sphere system and Cardcaptor Sakura. Where monsters (for some reason) have been set free and it’s up to our group to defeat and collect all of them once again. But perhaps different enemies call for different abilities and we get the abilities from spheres (or some other object) that allows us to change our appearance (to say one of a samurais or a black mage) in order to use them. Or perhaps change our appearance so as we can use different elements, or even transform into other creatures.

I like that idea and I'm a big fan of both. I've only seen the T.V. show for Cardcaptors but still a fan.

Thats all I got for now. Early days yet and I'd like to see your ideas too.

 

[MerkelHog]

I say we do something along the lines that show the extents of the human psyche when put in unimaginable circumstances. Maybe like people surviving a nuclear holocaust and how they deal with their new enviroment. it would be kind of like the book Alas, Babylon, if anyone has read it. Or maybe like Shadows Follower said, do something along the lines of a horror rpg where like people are trapped somewhere and are being hunted down by some unknown force (original horror plot huh?). Like I said before, I am up for anything that has to go with pushing the human psyche to its limits.

 

[Nylf]

I say my old FFVII: Rebirth Of Armageddon has most of your suggestions in it, but that's my ego showing, heh.

I'd rather not do a horror RPG, but that's because I never really got into horror.

Hmm, that Cardcaptor/FFX-2 idea I like as well. Let's see, I most like the idea of becoming the creatures. Then we can tie in the post-apocalypse idea, let's see, something like(some quotes borrowed from Shin Megami Tensei: Lucifer's Call) :-

A gift from God, or a curse of a demon king. Call it what you want, but that day, the world as we knew it ended. The creatures of our world were gone, replaced by beings from beyond even the most twisted child's imagination. Who can we pray too? Demons and fiends are all that roam here.

In essence, I guess the apocalypse was a mixed blessing. The animals weren't the only beings to be changed. So were we. How people were affected, it varies from individuals. But the world is divided. Those who want Chaos, those who want Order, and those who simply want the old world back.

New legends, rumours to be more accurate, speak of something that can fulfill even the wildest dreams. The **** could maintain this world, descend it into chaos, bring to it order, or, if my prayers come true, the old world returns.

But humans aren't the only beings who seek this power. So do the creatures. And, despite our evolution, somehow, they constantly overpower those seeking Chaos and those seeking Order.

Our last hope lies in rumours of six beings. Were they creature or human? No-one knows. All that is known is they are now both. And whatever they seek, we may well receive...

From The Log Of A Man Who Saw The World End.


Something like that. Admittedly, I borrowed quite a bit from Shin Megami Tensei, but it does generally fit a lot of the suggestions. The **** is a blank we could fill in as appropriate. I tried to put in two sides, Order and Chaos, as well as a third side, which we represent, those seeking the old world. This could be open ended or set, depending on how we decide to work it.

The idea with this..um idea is we are those six. While humans and creatures merely changed, we became both. We can take on the form of those we defeat. Let's say we take on an eight headed dragon, created from a serpent. Whoever deals the final blow would then be able become the creature. Admittedly though a creature of that size and power would require teamwork. We could start with a human form, and a starting creature form of absolutely anything. It could be a normal animal, or a creature from mythology.

That's one idea at least.

But the Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy ideas I'm also all for.

 

[Shadows Follower]

Interesting idea Nylf, I still like the orginal basic idea at the moment but still something to consider.

Expanding on the whole Cardcaptors/FF-X2 idea. I don't know about completely transforming into them but taking up some of their appearence and powers.

Basic Example: Perhaps using a combination of a dressphere and lets say, The Shadow Card, you merge with The Shadow. You then become dressed in its Grim Reaper like clothes but still yourself underneath and you are now able to manipulate the shadows just like The Shadow could.

Of course I don't know if we would use the same creatures but I'm sure you get my drift. I suppose if we use a different type of spirits to collect we would have to create a whole selection of spirits but I'm still up for the idea.

 

[Scar]

Hmm...interesting ideas. Like Nylf, however, I'm not really into horror RPG's. The genre itself never appealed to me. Also, while I do usually enjoy RPG's based off of an existing series, I feel that we have an ample amount of them around as of now. However, a Kingdom Hearts RPG might be, in my opinion, successful, despite the fact that Kingdom Hearts RPG's are basically a dime a dozen these days. A Final Fantasy RPG would be fun as well, so long as we follow our own unique storyline. Actually, the thought of a 'NiGHTS Into Dreams' RPG (not sure how many here are familiar with the game) crossed my mind once or twice, but I couldn't expand on the idea so I gave up on it.

That aside, a Cardcaptor Sakura-type RPG would be interesting. True, the series was around when I was a child (...well...an even younger child), but I remember what it was about very clearly. I do like the idea of monsters somehow getting released into the world.

A Post-Apocolyptic RPG might be fun, as well. Though it might be difficult to pull off due to the serious lack of...well...life as we know it (save our characters and a few random demonic hellspawns).

 

[Shadows Follower]

Last night I found that box fo Clow Cards I bought of Ebay. It brought back memories but anyway I've gotten another idea (sadly at the worse possible time - during one of my exams!) we could expand on.

I'm sure you guys have read or heard of the old greek myth where the Olympic Gods locked the Titans into Tatarus (A place in the underworld) and created impenetrable gates which couldn't be opened by immortal hands. There were several across the world in which you could open Tatarus and of course opening them could possibly mean ending the world.

Anyway, I thought thats a good starting point for maybe a Final Fantasy RPG, but probably Titans or beings of Nature (Fire, Water, Earth and Wind).

Also this also gave me the idea for a possible Kingdom Hearts RPG. In KH1 Sora locked up the door to KH right? (I don't know if it got unlocked in KH2 cause I never played it *whimpers*) So maybe there might be other doors to Kingdom Hearts that might need locking? Something to think of. My only prob is fitting in the FF-X2/Cardcaptors idea as that would make this even better.

 

[The Burnt Shadow]

Hmm... that part for the Final Fantasy is pretty tempting. Well here's an idea I thought of for the the RPG. It's basically one of those ways of a character to transform into something. I'm not very willing on a Kingdom Hearts' RPG though. I mean I liked the game, but there would be lots of travelling to several worlds and not everybody would probably have a ship to ride on. I never actually did Kingdom Hearts RPGs well.

I was thinking of doing the idea of one normal world that has unlocked several heartlesses. But the power of the heartless has spread so much that they've managed to block any way into getting into that world. Sadly several parts of the world have been affected by Heartless and most of the inhabitants have been transformed into Heartless. But only a few are managing to reisist the power of the heartless. But they also need to find a way to free their world without the help of a keyblade.

Basically you would go around the world either trying to destroy the heartless. So you have been infected by the heartless. You are able to resist it but you don't know how long. From time to time, you would be able to fight heartless by transforming into a heartless with a design different from the rest. Sinc you were able to resist you would probably have different abilities and your mind would still be there. But by turning into a heartless, they have a possibility into devouring your whole mind, but it's a risk since this would be your only defense against the heartless. the only way to free the world from the heartless is by entering the main heart of where the heartless were created and the people who released it.

That's just an idea I had in mind, I wanted to keep the heartless, but the travelling through different worlds like going the Agrabah to Wonderland isn't one of my favorite things to do. I'd prefer to stay in one world with several civilizations...

 

[Nylf]

Well key themes we all want:-

KH
Transforming FFX-2 style
Cardcaptors
Elements
POSSIBLY Post-Armageddon setting

So magic, Disney and transforming to put it in a nutshell. Well, I've got an idea that works all but the latter.

Okay, first, forget Kingdom Hearts plot. No Sora, no Kairi and no Riku. No Gummi flying, no Keyhole sealing. Let's make a clean slate. That way, we don't have to worry about canon-ness and continuity. As far as we're concerned, all the Keyholes are open.

Okay, it's the Kingdom Hearts setting, multiple worlds, Disney and Final Fantasy in the usual mix, and, most importantly, Keyblades. Notice the multiple.

Okay then, this is what I'm thinking. There are six Keyblades, each for an element, Light, Darkness, Wind, Fire, Earth and Water(For purposes sake, their standard forms would be Oathkeeper, Oblivion, Gullwing, Hidden Dragon, Circle Of Life and Crabclaw). Now then, each of these Keyblade elements grants us the ability to transform. The basic form could be into the Cardcaptors card that matches the element of our choice(Firey, Windy, Water, Earth, Darkness and Light cards). Then we could develop these forms as we go. And if we transform, our abilities change accordingly. How though is up to the mind.

The plot and other details like worlds...well we'll come to that when we do.

 

[Shadowfaith]

Well, Nylf's idea pretty much covers all of our likings as far as I can see. So who agrees to such a plot? Keep in mind that you don't have too. The whole point of this RPG is for everyones liking and we will work until we reach that goal. But if everyone does agree to this sort of plot, then we can begin working on enhancing it and putting all of our preferences into it.

I for one am all for the idea. But I don't like the fact of being stuck with just one transformation.

Also, taking on the form of the cardcaptor clow card doesn't appeal to me, as I wasn't a fan of their looks, just the plot of the anime. So if we could possibly choose out own appearance, that would be great.

 

[The Burnt Shadow]

Well Nylf's idea is pretty good, so I agree with the plot. I was growing a bit tired of the cliche plotline with Sora in it. About the keyblades, I was thinking maybe we could just make up our own. The only thing I don't understand about the transformation is how we're going to develop them. Is it something like at first we can only use it for a moment but as we go on we learn to control the transformation?

 

[Shadows Follower]

Hmmm. The basic idea is good with keyblades and elements and I have no prob with a KH setting but the transforming still I'm not sure about. I would like to try and link the transforming as Shadowfaith mentioned in her first post to collecting something. I guess what to collect is the problem. Maybe certain heartless I guess? Or we could come up with a range of creatures to collect and use their uniques abilities for ourselves? And how would we collect their essence and keep them (in a card, sphere?)

Still early days but something I would like to have linked in.

 

[Shadowfaith]

I would also like to include the idea of collecting things to transform. I was particullarly fond of that thought to be honest with you as I was the change in apperances. But you cant have them all. But I would like to enhance the idea of transformation a little bit. But lets just concnetrate on a plot first, eh?

 

[Scar]

Nylf's idea does seem pretty interesting, in my opinion. It does a very good job of combining all themes we came up with. However, I agree with Shadows Follower; transforming should require that we collect something, whether it actually IS a card of some form, or a certain breed of Heartless. Though, like Shadowfaith, the idea of using the actual Cardcaptors Clow Cards doesn't appeal to me. I don't so much mind having just one transformation, but I do agree that we should be able to make up our own. Also, keep in mind that the Anime was around when I was six or seven, so I...really don't remember what the Clow Cards look like. ^^;

Anyway, aside from that, I have no objections to Nylf's idea.

 

[Shadows Follower]

But you cant have them all.

Well, in truth I could but then I would become a very unpopular guy. Just jokin.

Anyway back to being serious, I guess the main question we should be asking ourselves is: What are they doing?

If where not going for the usual locking the keyholes bit, they need to have a purpose. It would probably have to tie in with the keyblades of course and their ability to lock/unlock anything. I must admit I'm stumped here. I'll need to get some inspiration from something but until then I can only think about the idea I put up back a few posts but I'm sure you guys have some better ones.....right?

 

[Nylf]

Well the plot, hmm...well I'm drained imagination wise for that. We'll see soon if no-one comes up with anything. But yeah, a bigger common purpose than JUST sealing Keyholes would be a good idea. Sora is never there to just do that, he's always looking for either Riku or Kairi or both, and in II I believe Kingdom Hearts as well. The Keyholes are just extras along the way.

But the Transformation, then just we START with a basic form matching our element, for example(just example) :-
Water: Sea Serpent/Fish
Wind: Bird/Griffon
Earth: Gigas/Lion
Fire: Dragon/Demon
Darkness: Demon/um..Wolf?
Light: Angel/Squirrel(*cough*Carbuncle*cough*)

Then, as we go, we find certain 'bosses' have 'harnessed' powers, and defeating bosses grants us the powers they 'harnessed' in the form of a new transformation. Let's say we beat that Trickster Heartless from Wonderland. he typically uses Fire moves, so the Fire Keyblader would gain a new form. Or, let's say we 'train' Cerberus. The Darkness Keyblader would probably be able to turn into a creature like Cerberus or another form after defeating him. Water? Ursula, that Shark would be boss ideas. Heck, why not Leviathan? Light, lessee, Bahamut, that dragon from KH2's Land Of Dragons, Nobody bosses like what I believe is called Twilight Thorn(it's the huge one with a scarf which Roxas fights in the same world Sora first fought Darkside), Earth, Rock Titan, Scar, Reverse Armour might work. Why not throw in Fenrir? Wind, Yuffie, Kurt Zisa, umm...Phantom? Heck, we could make up more bosses. And I'm not saying we BECOME bosses, I'm saying we beat them, releasing power they have stolen/harnessed whatever, and it allows us to become new things, entirely up to us. Though I kinda do want to turn into some of the non-Heartless bosses, like Cerberus or Jafar-Genie.

How's that sound? We crush bosses, gain new powers/transformations depending on their element? Ooh, brain wave, how about instead of Summoning FF Summons, we beat them and turn into them? Alongside our array of other forms as well.

 

[MerkelHog]

For the plot how about this; each person comes from a different world that has been overrun by monsters of a certain element, enslaving all the inhaitants of that world. You are the only one who had managed to escape to Transverse Town, where we all meet. To mix in Final Fantasy, we could have it where six of the summons, called the Great Guardians (original name, huh?), were actually the ones to bring us to Transverse town. The did this because of the imbalance in nature caused by the rise of the Evil Ones (another original name ). They each chose their own representative and mark them with a symbol that represents their element. The first thing they intrsuct us to do is find the six legendary Natureblades (elemental keyblades). For protection they give us Oathkeeper, Oblivion, Gullwing, Hidden Dragon, Circle Of Life and Crabclaw, each going to the right elemental hero. Then we have to travel to each of the six worlds to destroy the respective Evil one.

The Great Guardians would be as follows:

Water: Leviathan
Wind: Quezacotl
Earth: Madeen
Fire: Bahamut or one of his versions
Darkness: Diablos
Light: Carbuncle

The Evil Ones could be dark copies of the Great Guardians or something along those lines.

As for the transformations, I like the idea of using cards and card capturing, so how about this. Instead of using Clow Cards, we use Yugioh cards. The monsters can become real and if we want to transform into that monster, instead of destroying it, we capture it and revert it back to card form using the colleating Keyblade. And to start off, we each can have one level 4 monster that we can transform into. And when we defeat one of the evil Ones, the elemental that corresponds to that Evil One gets that transformation.

 

[InnerFlame]

I didn't even notice this had started... but so far these all sound like awesome ideas though... I really can't think of anything to add... I need to do some brainstroming maybe reading more of your comment will trigger something... sorry for my lack of help...

 

[Scar]

I do like the idea of the Great Guardians, MerkelHog (though we'd have to think up a new name for them...no offense). And having our characters all be from different worlds is pretty interesting as well. But...Yugioh Cards? I'm not so sure about that.

Alright, now the ball's in Scar's court. I did some brainstorming, and now it's my turn to add something to the plot. Okay, how about this: the Evil Ones are supposed to be like the alter-egos of the Great Ones, correct? Well, what if our Natureblades (or the Elemental Key Blades) also have evil alter-egos? And, just like our Key Blades chose US to wield them, the Corrupt Blades chose someone to wield them.

Now, as for Transformation, I suggest starting us off with one basic Transformation; a creature similar to the Great Guardian whose element matches our Key Blade, actually created using a portion of that particular Guardian's power. This creature would be neither man nor beast, though closer to humans than beasts (as in humans with various qualities and features matching those of our Great Guardian). Likewise, those holding the Dark Key Blades would be able to do the same with the Evil One who represents their element. This brings me to the subject of the OTHER monsters we'd face with Final Fantasy origins. When we defeat a "boss" from a Final Fantasy World, we would gain the ability to transform into a creature similar to them...

...which then brings me to the rest of the "bosses" we face. You see, I was thinking that, upon recieving our Key Blades, we would also have recieved a special deck of blank cards. Then, when we defeat a "boss" not from Final Fantasy (such as...oh, say, Ursula), their physical being would be destroyed and a portion of their energy would be locked inside one of the cards, making full use of the locking capabilities of our Key Blades. Once this happens, we'd be able to summon said boss to the field...well, the boss's physical form, that is. You see, it would really be an empty shell of the boss, considering the boss itself would be, more than likely...well, evil. The boss would then attack near-by enemies until they grow tired, at which point they were return to their card. This would incorporate elements from Cardcaptors, Summoning, as well as the Key Blades' ability to lock anything.

 

[The Burnt Shadow]

That is interesting, but for summoning the bosses, I think they shouldn't be that tough when we summon them because we'll be able to do someting like one hit KO all baddies destroyed. Also if we're going to use Disney bosses, they should be new ones that weren't actually used in the KH games. Okay here's a part I've been thinking of we could use for the transformation. When we start to develop transformation, we can only develop it through skill and the greatness of our heart, but if we begin to develop great rage, sorrow, jealousy, etc we begin to transform into an elemental form of the heartless and the only way for us to return back to normal is to overcome our emotions. Another thing is if you transform into a heartless, your keyblade will be destroyed. Also if we learn to overcome our pain by helping someone or something through the kindness of your heart you'll be released from the heartless form and your keyblade will be rebuilt and upgraded. But if you just help because you want to be free the longer you'll remain as a heartless...