Project Phoenix

[KillingEdge]

Just change Barbarape to Barbarilla. Problem solved. And the sprite is coming along nicely. The 'American' idea you have for them also works for me.

If you want my two cents on a Water starter, I've had an idea for a while now about a Water/Poison Pokemon that's essentially a limbed representation of a sea anemone, like how Roselia is a representation of roses.

Anemid (anemone + kid)
Anemoneen (anemone + teen)
Anemonault (anemone + adult)

I have an idea of what they'd look like more in-depth, which I'll post tomorrow when I have the time to get it down thoroughly.

 

[Innocent Bystander]

Could you describe it? I'm always antsy to hear what people have in store. xP You're a great spriter, IB.

Thanks.

(Little fanboy moment: you're totally right Yoshi, IB is ridic. Seriously, one of the top spriters I've come across.)

Thank you so much! Anyway, with the sewer thing, it's a big blue-green blob with two arm-things (I'm not too sure what to call them) it has long, melted looking eyes and a mouth that towers of a small pile of yabukuron. (It eats them, 'cos they're, you know, trash bags.)
It also has a sewer pipe sticking out of it's head. (I know it's a really overdone idea, but I think it's pull-offable.)

 

[Spherical Ice]

* A Water/Fighting sponge mixed with a sumo wrestler...it increases its weight by taking in water making it near unmovable, referencing the sponge's sedentary nature. But we already have Killingedge's idea for a sponge, so that may overlap.

We should totally call that Loofight, lol. And yeah, Innocent, those sprites are awesome.

By the way, you guys skipped my idea of a communication marmoset and navigation macaw. Expanding on the former, you could add a small marmoset and they both have a drum similar to the drum communication that was used in forests and such.

Also, I think renaming Swewe to Sherbaa is a lot better; Sherbert + Baa.

 

[KillingEdge]

Actually, what if the sponge wasn't the water starter, but involved in a unique series of sponge evolutions?

The first form is a small aqua-blue amorphous gel-like creature with a small sponge on its back, named Amorphera (Who is a pure Water type). Now, Amorphera is like Tyrogue, in that it evolves based on its stats, but unlike Tyrogue, Amorphera doesn't have a set level it evolves at. Rather, there's an item that evolves Amorphera when it's used, so you can wait as long as needed to get it the right stats. And while Tyrogue's key stats are Attack and Defense, Amorphera's are Attack and Sp.Atk.

Sp.Atk is higher -> Absorphera (Water/Grass, my sponge concept)
Attack is higher -> Sumifero (Water/Fighting, sumo/porifera blended together, Korobooshi's concept)
Attack/Sp.Atk are equal -> Poriferohm (Water/Electric, porifera/ohm, another sponge concept of mine)

I figured I'd give this suggestion a shot, especially since I was just raising a Tyrogue not too long ago. (And because I was racking my brain trying to think of names for an entire starter line of sumo sponges, with no success...)

 

[Cynder]

Well, I don't have a scanner at the moment so I just did a crappy drawing on paint:

This is the oxygen dragon. I attempted to design the other two, but they both failed miserably. They looked a bit like shapeless serpents >_< If anyone wants to take a shot at designing them the concept is found here they would be as the concept is there, with similar style head/wing parts. I'll have a go at spriting this one, and edit this post with the sprite (unless it has like ten other posts after it, then I will just not bother and make another post xD)

Also KillingEdge, I like that concept 'cos I don't think many people have really came up with anything like that before.. Well I've never seen anything like that anyway (other than tyrogue anyway)

 

[Exxmaniac]

Going off of my sewer idea, I had in mind using this trash rat:

and then it would evolve into...
a bigger, gang leader-like trash rat. I'M SO ORIGINAL.

Anyway, I have some fakemon concepts;
-A honey badger and a honeyguide bird duo. HB is Normal/Dark and HG is Normal/Flying?
- A fish bowl based fakemon? It doesn't necessarily have to be an actual fish bowl, but just based on it? Just to add to the Water types possibilities.
Water type.

 

[bothie]

Hey guys, I am so sorry for my absentees. My browser refused to load Serebii Forums for the last two days. D: Ughh

But I am here now. :3

I have been working on that Christmas tree sprite. I am not too sure on the shading, or the light bulbs on the hands. I tried to make it look like the light bulbs were popping out, idk though.. Tell me your thoughts.

http://i51.*******.com/j7uszm.png

Tell me if you rather have the stuff around the lightbulbs on the hand(brush stuff, idkk..), or not. I can change it.

So starter ideas. I LOVE the grass gorilla concept! And the sprite is coming along pretty well. I could design some of the evolutions, but tell me if you have ideas for them.

What about water, and fire? hmmmm...

 

[FourthBeat]

Yoshi has the Fire starter concept as far as I know, with the fire goat thing.
So:
Grass(/Fighting) Gorilla
Fire(/Dark) Goat
Water(/?) _______

That's the big question right now. It's not mandatory to get those done, necessarily, but it'd be nice to still bounce around some ideas.

What about a seal? I know we already have Seel and Spheal, but it's a land-and-water dwelling animal, and I think it's been restricted to the Ice type so we could do something unique, like Electric or Rock? If that grabs anyone's inspiration, by all means run with it!

I love the trashbag rat. Trat? C: The fishbowl is also interesting... It could have some ability that powers up or heals or protects Water Pokemon on its team in double/triple battles! Crazy Special Defense, but below average Defense. Mostly a supporter, I'd imagine. What if it was a Snail! Instead of a shell, it could carry the fishbowl. Water/Bug?

Loving the Christmas tree. I think the yellow orb at the top looks really flat. Maybe imitate Ampharos?

Maybe I'm crazy but I think I remember someone mentioning a Weeping Willow? That could be an alternate in a pairing with the Christmas Tree?

Also love the split line sponge. Not enough split evolutions anymore.

 

[bothie]

Hmm.. Fire goat, okay.

Water... What about a platypus like I mentioned before? Or a horse type water thing?

EDIT1:

Okay so I just took of the ball thing on its head. I honestly like it!

http://i54.*******.com/2uhtwsp.png

EDIT2:

More Fakemon ideas!!

A water/flying cougar. It should be rare. It should be kind of blue, covered in clouds.
A dark/water dolphin. It should be beginning of an evo chain.
A fire/ghost ostrich. It could be like from the dead or something. LOL
A steel buffalo. It could have armor, etc..
An electric badger.
An electric cheetah.
A rock/dark copperhead/snake.
An ice jackal.
A poison peacock.
A dark frog.
A ground/water camel.

Just a few lol

 

[FourthBeat]

Hmm, that does look pretty good. It doesn't look overly Electric though. What if it had a little plug-in for a tail? I mean, Christmas lights need to plug in usually. It's up to you, though, it's your design now x3

A really stylized platypus could work. I mean, Empoleon is a pengiun but it's very stylized with its armor and whatnot, so I think a Playpus could work if we come up with a really good design. I'm not big on the horse for a starter, since it's not really water related.

Worked on Lowlunk. Think it's pretty much finished. Still hate its back legs though.

Which one do you guys prefer? On the left is the original, on the right I moved his head up a little and recoloured the stomach area. I personally prefer the one on the right but it's a tad big for a starter. Hrm.
EDIT:
Nevermind, it's not big at all for a starter. I checked x3 And on the right I also added his other back leg. I think the one on the right wins?

 

[evolutionrex]

Hmm, that does look pretty good. It doesn't look overly Electric though. What if it had a little plug-in for a tail? I mean, Christmas lights need to plug in usually. It's up to you, though, it's your design now x3

A really stylized platypus could work. I mean, Empoleon is a pengiun but it's very stylized with its armor and whatnot, so I think a Playpus could work if we come up with a really good design. I'm not big on the horse for a starter, since it's not really water related.

Worked on Lowlunk. Think it's pretty much finished. Still hate its back legs though.

Which one do you guys prefer? On the left is the original, on the right I moved his head up a little and recoloured the stomach area. I personally prefer the one on the right but it's a tad big for a starter. Hrm.
EDIT:
Nevermind, it's not big at all for a starter. I checked x3 And on the right I also added his other back leg. I think the one on the right wins?

i think the right one is good too.

Does every agree that Lendura is a good enough name to be the confirmed name?

 

[Korobooshi Kojiro]

Attack is higher -> Sumifero (Water/Fighting, sumo/porifera blended together, Korobooshi's concept)

Hmm...I like Sumifero as a name. I had only thought of a Japanese name for it, Sumounji, romantized as Sumonge.

Also, I was looking back, and someone drew a shisa based Pokemon? It was Rock/Fire, but I think that using it as a Water/Rock Starter line would be pretty neat since Shisa are popular among the Okinawan island region. And we'd have all mammals for starters, which I'd like for some reason.

 

[FourthBeat]

To be entirely honest I think we can do better than Lendura. Besides, I think we all generally agreed that we should focus on the Pokemon aspect before the region and such.

 

[evolutionrex]

To be entirely honest I think we can do better than Lendura. Besides, I think we all generally agreed that we should focus on the Pokemon aspect before the region and such.

Yeah, but i still think we should get some things out of the way, like the name of the region and place of earth it should be based off of.

I made a map of the region (again) based off of the South American peninsula. i thought it was a good location, becuase the top of this map is actually the bottom of South America, and closer to Antartica. That means at the top there can be a snowy place where the bottom of the map there could be more jungle/forest places.

I also made my own icons that we could use.

blue circle= town.
red circle= city.
green circle= entrance or exit to a forest/jungle.
gray circle= entrance or exit to a cave/mountainous place.
purple circle= a large non-city/town place that is related to battling, the elite four, for example.
yellow lines= routes.
blue lines= routes in water.
gray lines= cave/mountainous place.
green lines= forest/jungle.
the groups of colors= to make the map itself.

I still need to do a little bit of touching up, but here is the map. I did not put any town, routes, etc. becuase it is too early.

 

[^^Yoshinichi^^]

Cannister has been resprited. What does everybody think? It isn't too similar to Yabakuron, is it?

Just change Barbarape to Barbarilla. Problem solved. And the sprite is coming along nicely. The 'American' idea you have for them also works for me.

If you want my two cents on a Water starter, I've had an idea for a while now about a Water/Poison Pokemon that's essentially a limbed representation of a sea anemone, like how Roselia is a representation of roses.

Anemid (anemone + kid)
Anemoneen (anemone + teen)
Anemonault (anemone + adult)

I have an idea of what they'd look like more in-depth, which I'll post tomorrow when I have the time to get it down thoroughly.

Alright, that'd be great. Even if we don't use it for our Water starter, we could make it a Three-staged Water type for our region. I was actually designing the sponges to be a three-staged Water->Water-> Water/Fighting line, but I see we have come up with some more original ideas!

Thanks.



Thank you so much! Anyway, with the sewer thing, it's a big blue-green blob with two arm-things (I'm not too sure what to call them) it has long, melted looking eyes and a mouth that towers of a small pile of yabukuron. (It eats them, 'cos they're, you know, trash bags.)
It also has a sewer pipe sticking out of it's head. (I know it's a really overdone idea, but I think it's pull-offable.)

Overdone idea? It seems more hard to understand, if anything. xP What do you mean towers of a small pile of Yabakuron? It looks like we'll have enough sewer Pokemon for our region. Grimer, Yabakuron, the sewer rat, your green glob, and Cannister.

We should totally call that Loofight, lol. And yeah, Innocent, those sprites are awesome.

By the way, you guys skipped my idea of a communication marmoset and navigation macaw. Expanding on the former, you could add a small marmoset and they both have a drum similar to the drum communication that was used in forests and such.

Also, I think renaming Swewe to Sherbaa is a lot better; Sherbert + Baa.

I didn't mean to skip your ideas, heh. I actually love the idea for the navigation macaw, myself. The Pokedex entry could be about how famous explorers used the macaw and Nosepass to find their way home.

Actually, what if the sponge wasn't the water starter, but involved in a unique series of sponge evolutions?

The first form is a small aqua-blue amorphous gel-like creature with a small sponge on its back, named Amorphera (Who is a pure Water type). Now, Amorphera is like Tyrogue, in that it evolves based on its stats, but unlike Tyrogue, Amorphera doesn't have a set level it evolves at. Rather, there's an item that evolves Amorphera when it's used, so you can wait as long as needed to get it the right stats. And while Tyrogue's key stats are Attack and Defense, Amorphera's are Attack and Sp.Atk.

Sp.Atk is higher -> Absorphera (Water/Grass, my sponge concept)
Attack is higher -> Sumifero (Water/Fighting, sumo/porifera blended together, Korobooshi's concept)
Attack/Sp.Atk are equal -> Poriferohm (Water/Electric, porifera/ohm, another sponge concept of mine)

I figured I'd give this suggestion a shot, especially since I was just raising a Tyrogue not too long ago. (And because I was racking my brain trying to think of names for an entire starter line of sumo sponges, with no success...)

Well, this could a potentially very cool idea. Since I don't know much about sponges of the deep-sea variety, I leave it up to you to design it as you see fit. I just want to let you guys know that no idea is truly being ignored, I'm just a little late on adding everything to the front page. Heh. I hope I don't seem too disorganized. Let's all try to get the Pokemon sprites that are done up onto the Pokedex page.

Well, I don't have a scanner at the moment so I just did a crappy drawing on paint:

This is the oxygen dragon. I attempted to design the other two, but they both failed miserably. They looked a bit like shapeless serpents >_< If anyone wants to take a shot at designing them the concept is found here they would be as the concept is there, with similar style head/wing parts. I'll have a go at spriting this one, and edit this post with the sprite (unless it has like ten other posts after it, then I will just not bother and make another post xD)

Also KillingEdge, I like that concept 'cos I don't think many people have really came up with anything like that before.. Well I've never seen anything like that anyway (other than tyrogue anyway)

The dragon looks interesting, although a bit bland right now. I understand why it is and that it's still early in the design stage, so no worries. Looks like you may have to make a new post indeed. ;P

Going off of my sewer idea, I had in mind using this trash rat:

and then it would evolve into...
a bigger, gang leader-like trash rat. I'M SO ORIGINAL.

Anyway, I have some fakemon concepts;
-A honey badger and a honeyguide bird duo. HB is Normal/Dark and HG is Normal/Flying?
- A fish bowl based fakemon? It doesn't necessarily have to be an actual fish bowl, but just based on it? Just to add to the Water types possibilities.
Water type.

I think the fish-bowl one could be like..some sort of squishy sea-creature that resembles a fish-bowl in appearance, but isn't literally a fish-bowl. Like how Donphan is a tire-elephant.

Hmm, that does look pretty good. It doesn't look overly Electric though. What if it had a little plug-in for a tail? I mean, Christmas lights need to plug in usually. It's up to you, though, it's your design now x3

A really stylized platypus could work. I mean, Empoleon is a pengiun but it's very stylized with its armor and whatnot, so I think a Playpus could work if we come up with a really good design. I'm not big on the horse for a starter, since it's not really water related.

Worked on Lowlunk. Think it's pretty much finished. Still hate its back legs though.

Which one do you guys prefer? On the left is the original, on the right I moved his head up a little and recoloured the stomach area. I personally prefer the one on the right but it's a tad big for a starter. Hrm.
EDIT:
Nevermind, it's not big at all for a starter. I checked x3 And on the right I also added his other back leg. I think the one on the right wins?

I like the one on the right more, you're right. Good job on the sprite, Kyle! It has real character. Now, all we need is for me to sprite Lamburn and a solid Water starter idea.

Yeah, but i still think we should get some things out of the way, like the name of the region and place of earth it should be based off of.

I made a map of the region (again) based off of the South American peninsula. i thought it was a good location, becuase the top of this map is actually the bottom of South America, and closer to Antartica. That means at the top there can be a snowy place where the bottom of the map there could be more jungle/forest places.

I also made my own icons that we could use.

blue circle= town.
red circle= city.
green circle= entrance or exit to a forest/jungle.
gray circle= entrance or exit to a cave/mountainous place.
purple circle= a large non-city/town place that is related to battling, the elite four, for example.
yellow lines= routes.
blue lines= routes in water.
gray lines= cave/mountainous place.
green lines= forest/jungle.
the groups of colors= to make the map itself.

I still need to do a little bit of touching up, but here is the map. I did not put any town, routes, etc. becuase it is too early.

Not to rain on your parade, but since this is a group project, I think we need to decide on the shape and concept of the region all as a group before we start on anything that major. Once we get enough Pokemon sprited, I think we'll be fine. About 153 should be a good place-holder number for now.

 

[evolutionrex]

Cannister has been resprited. What does everybody think? It isn't too similar to Yabakuron, is it?

Not really, no.

Not to rain on your parade, but since this is a group project, I think we need to decide on the shape and concept of the region all as a group before we start on anything that major. Once we get enough Pokemon sprited, I think we'll be fine. About 153 should be a good place-holder number for now.

that wasn't anything major. Just sort of giving an example of a South American region, to ask if people liked the idea.

I know your all saying that the locations shouldn't be dealt with it, but like posted awhile back, we can multi-task. It's just i'm the only one working on the geographical part of the region, which i understand becuase you don't want to start that but if we get past a few of the basic parts of the region, like the name and the map. But things like towns, cities, etc., i agree, should be done after the pokemon are made.

All i'm saying is that we should do a little bit of the geography while others are spriting. All i want to do is get past the basics of the map. The reason why I've been working on the map is becuase I'm not working on sprites. Others who can't sprite can do the same, if they want to. Sorry if it sounds like I'm arguing, i don't want to start one.

 

[Innocent Bystander]

Here's the Sewer blob done. See what I mean by "Towered"? Also, I can't think of a name. Any ideas?

 

[^^Yoshinichi^^]

Here's the Sewer blob done. See what I mean by "Towered"? Also, I can't think of a name. Any ideas?

Oh, I get what you mean now. Heh. The Yabakuron look odd there, but I can't say Game Freak would never do that, because look at Mantine. Maybe the Pokemon would use the Yabakuron to help him collect food, and in turn they fed off his slime, which could be regenerated? A symbiotic relationship. I think Sewaste (sewage+waste) would be a good name, and that he should be a standalone you'd encounter in the sewer system.

 

[evolutionrex]

Here's the Sewer blob done. See what I mean by "Towered"? Also, I can't think of a name. Any ideas?

i love it. I think you should take out the trash back pokemon (can't remember the name right now.) Besides that, it's creative and new.

 

[Innocent Bystander]

Maybe the Pokemon would use the Yabakuron to help him collect food, and in turn they fed off his slime, which could be regenerated? A symbiotic relationship. I think Sewaste (sewage+waste) would be a good name, and that he should be a standalone you'd encounter in the sewer system.

That sounds good to me! And Sewaste sounds really good, too. I don't suppose there's any other concepts floating around at the moment?