Question about the ending of SV (MAJOR SPOILERS)

[Sceptile Master]

So at the end, when you fight AI Turo/Sada, they're basically like "You guys are having so much fun, I wanna have fun in the future/past too", and head off in the time machine to their respective era. Now, to the player, they told that they cannot leave the Area Zero Lab because they run thanks to the power of the high amount of crystals there. How is it then that they're able to go adventure off in the past/future? Any theories? I have some ideas but I'd like to hear your guys' first.

 

[lolipiece]

Remember, the AI Professor got partially Terastallized during the battle. Maybe that's what's keeping them powered (at least for now).

 

[Auraninja]

I always thought that the crystals are transfixed in that location in spite of the time period.

 

[Sceptile Master]

I always thought that the crystals are transfixed in that location in spite of the time period.

That's what I assume too, but the fact she/he says they're going adventuring is why I have to question how they're going adventuring, if they can't leave the lab whatever the time period may be.

 

[Luthor]

That's what I assume too, but the fact she/he says they're going adventuring is why I have to question how they're going adventuring, if they can't leave the lab whatever the time period may be.

Its possible the AI has a worked out a way of escaping and simply didn't do it as it would cause the Past/Future Pokemon to be able to escape. If it were to do so where the paradox pokemon are from in the correct time period (or correct point in another time line depending on how you interpret the events of the DLC) and it escapes that version of Area Zero then there's no risk anymore to the local ecology where there was before. Then it would be possible for it to adventure. Of course regardless we also may have to take what the AI says with a pinch of salt given its possible they have never time travelled a whole android before, and thus may not be certain about their claims as anything they say about it is likely a bit of an educated guess at best. Their main goal is to shut the machine down. Anything else is largely secondary.

 

[Smeargle-Sketch]

I honestly took it as it was a risk it was willing to take in order to fulfill the original professor's dreams. Even at the cost of its automated life.

I like to think after going through a anomaly for time, seeing like a tera time nexus in the process, the robot made it to a timeline that fulfilled its promise to the professor.

Releasing the captured Paradox Pokemon it had on hand and then existing for however long it could before inevitably shutting down.

 

[Ophie]

I've seen people ask this before, and I've seen two main explanations for it:

1. The AI Professor has to remain in Area Zero because the AI is powered by the Tera Crystals. During the battle, said Crystals start forming on their body, which gives them the power needed to leave Area Zero.
2. The past/future that the Time Machine gets the Paradox Pokémon from does not actually exist, or doesn't actually take them to the past/future. The AI Professor simply ceases to exist.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

I was utterly terrified that the DLC would say that they stopped existing or whatever, or that something horrible had happened to them. But instead it seemed to indicate that they can be safe! It didn't directly address them, but with all the massive tera energy they took on in the last fight being similar to how our own tera orbs get supercharged when we go to the Underdepths and no longer need to be charged, it feels like extrapolating those facts together indicates that they'll be able to move freely and leave the area at last.

That said their fate is sad enough. AI Sada is going to an era long before humans, and though she's not human herself she most clearly identifies with them. And AI Turo may go to so far in the future that humans have died out/evolved into something unrecognizable. And even if they aren't lonely, they'll still have to contend with the fact that the last thing they have of the era of their origin is the memory of Arven--a boy they loved as if he was their own son, a boy they can never see again--crying out for his parent.

 

[Pokefan_1987]

I doubt that the supercharged orbs is permanent. It's just since the ammount of energy emanating from the angry recently awakened terapagos.
I think it that Terapagos Eternatus have the same problems.
As in they both have been dormant for a while, so it would be obvious if the energy is strong in their "nest" if they are really angry and confused about their surroundings and ready to burst.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

The orbs are like that before Terapagos is awake. Carmine remarks on it during the descent. So that energy has been present likely for quite some time.

 

[PrinceOfFacade]

Honestly, I always considered it a suicide. The AI knows it won't survive long in the new environment. They just wanted to see that world just once, long enough to witness what their human counterpart fought so hard for.

Of course, it could also just be a product of the real professor's longing desires.

 

[Pokefan_1987]

Honestly, I always considered it a suicide. The AI knows it won't survive long in the new environment. They just wanted to see that world just once, long enough to witness what their human counterpart fought so hard for.

Of course, it could also just be a product of the real professor's longing desires.

It was not fully explained. But i the scene you can unlock on Crystal Pool on the top of the Ogre Mountain when you need Terapagos and all of the dlc are defeated...could indicate that the Professor is alive in the Future/Past but trapped since it is not a recording or garbled voice.

Otherwise they would not be able touch Briars book about Ogerpon and Terapagos notebook while they give you the replacement Scarlet/Violet book as a gift with new discoveries. But we never know what the notes the Professor has written since that book can't be opened.

 

[ShadowForce720]

It was not fully explained. But i the scene you can unlock on Crystal Pool on the top of the Ogre Mountain when you need Terapagos and all of the dlc are defeated...could indicate that the Professor is alive in the Future/Past but trapped since it is not a recording or garbled voice.

Otherwise they would not be able touch Briars book about Ogerpon and Terapagos notebook while they give you the replacement Scarlet/Violet book as a gift with new discoveries. But we never know what the notes the Professor has written since that book can't be opened.

No actually there is a rumor about the Crystal Pool saying that you’re able to meet people that have passed away.

Basically what’s being implied and what you seem to be misunderstanding here is that the professor is trapped in the future or past but was brought from the past before they died to the future by Terapagos to meet you and you wind up giving them the Briar’s Book which you had seen before in the Area Zero Underdepths, basically implying you were the one to give them the book.

Heck the Ai even clearly states that the original Professor died.

 

[Pokefan_1987]

No actually there is a rumor about the Crystal Pool saying that you’re able to meet people that have passed away.

Basically what’s being implied and what you seem to be misunderstanding here is that the professor is trapped in the future or past but was brought from the past before they died to the future by Terapagos to meet you and you wind up giving them the Briar’s Book which you had seen before in the Area Zero Underdepths, basically implying you were the one to give them the book.

Heck the AI even clearly states that the original Professor died.

So the pool is a limited summoning gateway to meet them from the afterlife and they give you a few final conclusions and both parties give each other new materials ?
That is a nice closure since the professors have never officially met Terapagos who created the tera phenomenon they were hoping to study.

 

[Luthor]

So the pool is a limited summoning gateway to meet them from the afterlife and they give you a few final conclusions and both parties give each other new materials ?
That is a nice closure since the professors have never officially met Terapagos who created the tera phenomenon they were hoping to study.

It's not technically from the afterlife. The professor we meet has yet to name Koraidon/Miraidon (still knowing them as the Winged King/Iron Serpent) and stated
"From the clues you've already let slip, I suppose I would have to conclude... From my perspective, this must be the future...? Though of course the complexities of space-time are beyond count... It's possible that our encounter might not even be occurring in a timeline connected to my own. Perhaps this meeting is nothing more than a fleeting miracle. Why don't we exchange as much useful data as we can, in what little time that fate has gifted us?"
which means relative to the living professor (not the AI) they suspect it is for them it is the future or another universe (but the future of that universe relative to them). So we do meet them after both the original professor and the AI died from the players perpective but from the professor's perspective it is before their death and even before they built the AI.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

The person you meet at the pool is the human professor, from the past, AND from a different timeline. The one from our timeline had a similar encounter that they mention in their journal in the underdepths, but the big difference is that the one from our timeline never gave up their copy of Heath's book. Otherwise Arven never could have found it in the lighthouse, his dog would have died, and the AI never could have shut down the machine.

Other things support this as well. Our professor wrote about getting the time dragon around the same time Arven was born, but this version of them talks about Arven not only being around but also being alone already, and yet they have yet to meet the time dragon.

 

[Pokefan_1987]

It's not technically from the afterlife. The professor we meet has yet to name Koraidon/Miraidon (still knowing them as the Winged King/Iron Serpent) and stated
"From the clues you've already let slip, I suppose I would have to conclude... From my perspective, this must be the future...? Though of course the complexities of space-time are beyond count... It's possible that our encounter might not even be occurring in a timeline connected to my own. Perhaps this meeting is nothing more than a fleeting miracle. Why don't we exchange as much useful data as we can, in what little time that fate has gifted us?"
which means relative to the living professor (not the AI) they suspect it is for them it is the future or another universe (but the future of that universe relative to them). So we do meet them after both the original professor and the AI died from the players perpective but from the professor's perspective it is before their death and even before they built the AI.

Well that is some major twist that the crystal lake makes us meet a version that is both trapped in the future and has not met the legendary yet and the major incident has yet to happen. If only the player could warn the professor about that one of the is the brute version of Miraidon/Koraidon ?
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But that would break the whole point of the story about Area Zero and sad story the player experiences through the whole game

 

[Luthor]

Well that is some major twist that the crystal lake makes us meet a version that is both trapped in the future and has not met the legendary yet and the major incident has yet to happen. If only the player could warn the professor about that one of the is the brute version of Miraidon/Koraidon ?
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But that would break the whole point of the story about Area Zero and sad story the player experiences through the whole game

The question would then become is it a good idea to save the professor? Because if Sada/Turo survive that does mean that their plan might succeed, which means the future of that version of Paldea might have an ecological distaster due to the paradox Pokémon. The AI thought so (following the professor's death). Could make for an interesting legends game in the future to see another version of Paldea altered by paradox Pokemon though.

 

[Pokefan_1987]

Good point but the machines was deep underground and heavily locked. A few of the Iron Treads/Great Tusk and Koraidon/Miraidon are the 4 paradox timeline pokemon known to have already escape.
Ultra Beasts were less dangerous but since wormholes since was more difficult to trigger them. It was still not explained when Iron Treads & Giant Tusks escaped and became titans: was it when Koraidon and Miraidon broke out ?

 

[Luthor]

Good point but the machines was deep underground and heavily locked. A few of the Iron Treads/Great Tusk and Koraidon/Miraidon are the 4 paradox timeline pokemon known to have already escape.
Ultra Beasts were less dangerous but since wormholes since was more difficult to trigger them. It was still not explained when Iron Treads & Giant Tusks escaped and became titans: was it when Koraidon and Miraidon broke out ?

Depends if you trust what the AI professor says when he says they will at some point break out (note this is Turo it's slightly different for Sada but effectively the same) and also based on what the AI says the professor's dream is that the paradox Pokemon live alongside and they'd be ok with destruction. Without the AI shutting down the machine the escape would happen if the AI professor is to be believed.

"The original professor had a dream...of a world in which future Pokémon might live alongside present-day Pokémon in harmony. But these Pokémon have gained a strange power due to their adaptations in the distant future...and this power has proved too terrible. Their very existence brings destruction to the ecological balance of this current age. The original professor would say that such destruction is a natural part of life. At present, the barrier around Area Zero is still working to keep the future Pokémon from escaping into the rest of Paldea. But we've begun to see Pokémon appear that can break the barrier—such as Iron Treads. Eventually they will break free of this walled garden known as Area Zero and run rampant across the Paldea region. And when they do, the rich and varied ecosystem of Paldea will be trampled beneath their coming. I may have been created as a copy of the professor, and yet...I cannot seem to find the logic in allowing such a tragedy to occur. But any hope of preventing it would require overcoming the greatest AI that the original professor ever devised."

As for when Great tusk/Iron treads titan escape it's never fully explained when the titan escaped but what makes sense to me is that it either escaped when Arven last tried to enter area Zero (and got attacked by something Rampaging/ a Metallic machine though that could be another Paradox Pokemon like Gouging Fire/Iron Boulder) or as the AI professor suggests it escaped recently as the Paradox Pokemon had started to appear that can break the barrier.