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Racial Profiling and Police Brutality

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by Silver Soul, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. bobjr

    bobjr It's Fusion, I don't have to expalin it. Staff Member Moderator

    This news gets spread all the time. It's black on black crime that doesn't get any attention. The second it's black on white it gets a lot more attention, and you posting that proves it.


    Pretty much. When you bring in an all white panel to talk about race relations you're either a parody or the people on the panel are too scared of black people.
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2014
  2. LDSman

    LDSman Banned

    Odd, I've never seen an Fox News program that does this. Can you provide proof? Or is this just the standard "Fox News is evil" bull ****?
    Garner was NOT strangled to death. The neck and chest compressions caused a cardiac arrest.
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/


    And yet, Fox news keep getting better and better ratings over the other new channels......

    More bull ****. Sure the black community and the media ignore black on black crime. Talking about it would require looking at the community in question and trying to figure out how to stop the cycle of violence. It's easier to blame a phantom conspiracy. Black on white gets a little coverage and then gets IGNORED! Despite any indications of racism playing a part. White on black is automatically declared to be racism, all the special interest groups show up to protest it, it stays in the media cycle for months at a time and if there are any indicators that it was faked, the media doesn't follow up on the person who fake the hate crime. Except for a few shows, they drop it and move on. See any of the hate crime claims from colleges in the last few years.




    Any group of people can talk about race relations. There is no set grouping of people that are the only ones allowed to discuss it. Your problem is, you only believe in the liberal version of racism and any group that disagrees with that version is automatically considered racist.
     
  3. bobjr

    bobjr It's Fusion, I don't have to expalin it. Staff Member Moderator

    Reminder that the most trusted political news source is the Daily Show, a self proclaimed comedy show. Ratings mean nothing when it comes to quality.

    Plus while white on black crime gets all the protests, that's because of how little is done about it. Sure, black on black crime is ignored in the media, but people will get 20 years to life in jail quietly. When a white man publicly kills a black man and it doesn't go to trial of course people are going to be upset. It's as much about exposure as it is about treating the crimes equally.

    No, I believe authority should have power, but abuse of that power causes unrest in those who get abused by that power. Over time those group come to not trust the authority, which means they start to oppose them.
     
  4. LDSman

    LDSman Banned

    I think it has more to do the kind of exposure. Any number of self defense cases (white, black, brown, asian) don't get media attention. The media and special interest groups spend months telling people that a specific crime was murder and racism so of course people get mad when charges aren't filed. They've had their brains filled with the repeated claim that THIS CASE WAS RACIST MURDER and nothing else matters. Brown died because he attacked a cop, not because he was walking while black. Garner died due to health problems brought on by a legal arrest.


    Doesn't help when specific groups and specific people gin up distrust by proclaiming that every interaction you have with authority is due to racism. Racism that is "systemic" and ignores actual skin color because uniforms somehow prevent minorities from recognizing racism when they become police officers. Racism that apparently no longer needs actual racists if CNN is to be believed.
     
  5. SILVER XD

    SILVER XD Momentai, bro.

    Yeah, have you ever watched the voting maps during presidential elections? The south and all the states in the mid-west are full of red. There are plenty of conservatives in this country to keep that channel running. That has nothing to do with the network's quality or rather lack thereof.

    That last comment... "You dumb liberals don't know what you're talking about".
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2014
  6. LDSman

    LDSman Banned

    You not liking the content or slant on the coverage does not equal lack of quality. Their ratings keep climbing while the other networks keep falling.

    Not what I said or what I meant. People can have differing opinions on what causes a particular problem and not be racist or even wrong. Some problems have multiple causes.

    The liberal version of racism appears to be "Only white people can be racist. Definition of white can be changed as needed (Zimmerman). Anything that negatively impacts a minority is automatically racist even if the intent was not racist and was strongly advocated for by minorities. White people are racist even if they never do anything racist. (see CNN Racists without Racism.) A system or group of people are racist if there are white people involved. Doesn't matter if there are any minorities in charge or even working there. They either can't see the problem or are willingly helping the problem or the system is too powerful and entrenched to be stopped." Anyone who argues against these points is racist. If they are minorities, then they are Uncle Tom's, oreos, or any other term that is used by liberals against minority politicians that are also conservative.
     
  7. bobjr

    bobjr It's Fusion, I don't have to expalin it. Staff Member Moderator

    Ratings are done on Neilson boxes anyway, which are only used by old white people, which is basically the only people who believe the stuff Fox News says. Why do you think all the highest rated shows are the ones you watch and go "Who besides old people watch this?" like NCIS.
     
  8. SILVER XD

    SILVER XD Momentai, bro.

    Completely ignoring the point I just made that their viewerbase makes up the vast majority of the south and mid-west. High ratings =/= high quality. Only high viewership. And as the only network pandering heavy handedly to the southern and "heartland" conservatives with "the war on Christmas", "Obama is horrible", and "Marijuana is bad" nonsense of course it rakes in those viewers. My not liking the slant doesn't make it low quality. The network having low quality makes it low quality. See O'Reilly, Hannity, and The Five as examples.

    That is what you sound like, that's what I was pointing out. Great job generalizing liberal Americans. This is easily broken by virtue that this is not in the slightest of how I and many of my peers define racism.
     
  9. My question is, how is this the "big bad liberal media" coming in and blowing things out of proportion, when stuff like this happens all the time? If anything, people should be outraged that the media isn't focusing more on miscarriages of justice towards people of color. The stories about Michael Brown and Eric Garner are really what you could call token racial injustice news pieces. It must be pretty frustrating for the black community to have to wait until this years latest version of Rodney King to get anyone to pay attention to the problems they face. The fact there isn't an outrage in the media every single day speaks to the vast disconnect white Americans have with minorities.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2014
  10. Silver Soul

    Silver Soul Well-Known Member

    Cleveland Browns Wide Receiver Andrew Hawkins last game wore a shirt that calls for justice for Tamir Rice and John Crawford, who were both shot and killed for having toy guns with them. This got resentment from Cleveland PD Union head who said Tamir Rice shooting was 'justified'.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ml?ir=Black+Voices&ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000047

    Speaking of John Crawford, his girlfriend was interrogated harshly by the cops by trying to make her confess that if he carried a weapon and then told her he's dead after all that. Yikes.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/justice/walmart-shooting-john-crawford/
     
  11. Sheepy Lamby

    Sheepy Lamby Well-Known Member

    Ok... talking more about little angels hating the police, I had to bring this
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30566196
    The cops were not white... but of course, the liberal media does not care about this to don't promote a "minorities" racial war
    And they called George Zimmerman a "white Hispanic"... what a joke
     
  12. Silver Soul

    Silver Soul Well-Known Member

    Kind of funny you didn't mention that the guy's from Baltimore who got his gun from a pawn shop and that he shot his ex-girlfriend who luckily lived. The guy was just a psychopath who then killed himself but lo and behold, the NYPD union are typically blaming anyone but the killer and in this case, the Mayor of NYC.

    Oh and you know about the day of mourning for Ramos at the funeral where de Blasio was allowed by the family to make the speech? Well guess what? Hundreds of those so-called "Eagle Scouts" TURNED THEIR F***ING BACKS ON HIM! The funeral is supposed to be neutral ground and unity between the people and the law enforcement but what they did was worse and unprofessional. Turn it into a political statement. You turned back on the Mayor, you also do the same to the people who elected him and NYC itself.

    And I remind you a cop was exposed for beating up an MTA worker and was caught on video smirking as he left? Not to mention the whole virtual work stoppage where arrests are down 66% recently?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...tacking-female-mta-employee-article-1.2063013
    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/nypd-arrests-plummet-fear-safety-wake-murders
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2015
  13. Antiyonder

    Antiyonder Well-Known Member

    Even if some shootings or hostility towards someone aren't fueled by racism, I'd still argue a very good point.

    A person who trades freedom for security deserves neither.
     
  14. Silver Soul

    Silver Soul Well-Known Member

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