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Rape: Can a person who was raped enjoy the experience?

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by The Director, Nov 7, 2011.

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  1. wescobbcrandle

    wescobbcrandle Samuri Poster

    1. he's a monster for saying that a rape victim could enjoy the experience. How did he defend such a disgusting claim? "there have been some cases." Well ****, how can I possibly argue with that?

    2. We are not contributing to this thread by continuing this conversation. If you continue to take exception to what I'm writing, I suggest you PM me.
     
  2. Grey Wind

    Grey Wind Only rescues maidens

    Definitely not. Just because you reach orgasm doesn't mean you actually enjoy being forced to do it. Unless it's in the case of statutory rape, and the younger person is consenting, then no. I really don't see how anybody forcefully made to have sex could actually enjoy, orgasm or not.

    I think his point was that your post didn't really have much to do with anything, and came off as snarky and unneeded.

    Honey.

    (doesn't mean that I agree with him btw, I just got that impression from him)
     
  3. Zevn

    Zevn Lost in Translation

    By his logic:

    -taking advantage of damaged people is okay because they "enjoy" it
    -mindbreak is okay because by the end they think they "enjoy" it

    By this logic I can kill whomever I want because they don't mind once they're dead.

    ^_^ Right?

    No.
     
  4. wescobbcrandle

    wescobbcrandle Samuri Poster

    This place can't handle a little sass from a city girl? To quote my hero Hawk, "come on, timo."

    ;017;;017;



    Oh, and you are clearly wrong here. They can enjoy it. You know how I know? "there have been some cases."
     
  5. ChedWick

    ChedWick Well-Known Member

    Is that suppose to be my logic? And you pulled this out of what orphus?


    Exactly, thank you.

    Though, I dislike grouping statutory rape with any other topic on rape, ^this is about my stance as well. Certainly the experience wouldn't be enjoyable but to achieve orgasm is not as simple as just going with the motion. Statistically there are quite a few woman who have never had an orgasm and they have regular consenting sex. I'd like to go back over this thread and see if anyone posted anything regarding rape and achieving orgasm but I fear my attention span isn't long enough. If by some chance they did orgasm while being raped, I think Zevn hit the nail on the head about hating themselves after.
     
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  6. Zevn

    Zevn Lost in Translation

    orifice

    I used my fingers.

    Besides, I'm not the one justifying rape. Rape is violent, painful, psychologically and physically damaging.

    It seems like you just want to argue with me for fun, rather than trying to reach amicable understanding with opposing points of view.

    ^_^ Do as you please, but you aren't nearly as convincing when you just insult me.
     
  7. ChedWick

    ChedWick Well-Known Member

    Orifice;I knew that didn't look right! Ty kindly.

    I've not been trying to justify rape either. I honestly see nothing I've posted that suggests otherwise. I've also only just then addressed you so I don't see where I've argued with you let alone have an opposing view.
     
  8. Zevn

    Zevn Lost in Translation

    I wasn't referring to your logic, or just when you countered my point.

    I was illustrating with absurdity that nature of the logic in someone else's post.
     
  9. Twidragon

    Twidragon To the Power of 27

    I think its possible

    I bet for some, that it can act as a personal fetish. I'm pretty sure a lot of people even fantasize of it! I mean, it is a bit "kinky", but a lot of people have weird thoughts. (Myself included....)

    Now, the act itself is still wrong. I think that the people who do it are sick minded, and can really cause a lot of damage for the person involved.

    However, there are people who have their fetishes!
     
  10. MissDigitalis

    MissDigitalis love at first sting

    If the person wants and enjoys it then it not rape by definition.

    Rape is sex that's forced on a person without willingness of the participant. Otherwise it's just role playing.
     
  11. Zevn

    Zevn Lost in Translation

    Rape =/= Rape Roleplay

    Actual Dragon =/= Me in a dragon costume

    Sometimes the latter of each of the above happens.
     
  12. Twidragon

    Twidragon To the Power of 27

    ^^Well there are times where the person could be enjoying it, but till wants to get away. They can still feel guilt after it, and it can cause some mental damage.

    At least thats what I think
     
  13. CSolarstorm

    CSolarstorm New spicy version

    @ Chedwick - I don't think anyone in this thread is a monster in particular, but it is a monstrous thread. It's interesting to see how people imagine and categorize things in their mind to as they grow up (and that's why the topic won't be resolved) but rape =/= rape fantasy. This isn't an opinion. Plus whoever is really really arguing for people to acknowledge these 'extreme cases' has reached a dead end, because all there's left to do is argue whether they count or not. Meanwhile they're feeding the wrong message to the people who have rape confused with rape fantasy. This is a case where being right is a rather empty reward and does more harm than good. No matter how right you are at a bad subject, it's still a bad subject.
     
  14. Radish

    Radish Royal Rapidash

    I would say that it could be possible that someone would enjoy it. As you said, there are fetishes out there... but part of me feels that part of a fetish is "staying in the fantasy". I bet if someone enjoyed "rape-play" then if it did actually happen, then they would react in a far different way because it's out of their comfort zone. When they fantasize about it, it'll always be "in the comfort of their own home" or they'll get a thrill out of it being someone they know or something. But in the case of it being someone that they know (and most probably trust), then it would be totally different.

    So, to summarise, I think people would react differently if they "rape-play". They would most likely have a horrible time out of it, but some (a small few) may possibly enjoy it.
     
  15. But what if they actually enjoy the rape-play? I guess it depends on the type of fantasy. They might not enjoy it if some stranger they don't know anything about sexual assaults them, however if its some kind of "taboo" encounter like a daughter fantasizing about her father breaking legal and moral rules to take her. This is apparently not as rare as we think, as this account from a young woman who can only have orgasms from thinking about her father "raping" her:
    http://isitnormal.com/story/is-it-normal-to-want-sex-with-my-dad-37876/
     
  16. Malanu

    Malanu Est sularus oth mith

    Which Tisub, is why it is a fantasy. She hadn't been raped by her father.

    Tisub?

    Tisub?

    Another one kicked to the curb.
     
  17. ☭Secret_Shocker☭

    ☭Secret_Shocker☭ Well-Known Member

    Not if it's the girl, because she was forced into having intercourse against her will but if it's the guy then he'd feel good... I don't know the consequences. Usually girls who got pregnant by rape are left by their rapists.
     
  18. Accelgor X

    Accelgor X Well-Known Member

    Surely if they enjoy it it isn't rape right? Wouldn't it just be sexual intercourse?
     
  19. miles0624

    miles0624 Wrath of Fire

    In my opinion, I think it is the mindset of the person.

    For example, I know many people who are quick to assume that all men, regardless of the circumstance, would enjoy non-consensual rape. Their idea is that it may start out as rape, but because they are a man, their thoughts would change to where they would start enjoying it. However, their tone changes for women, saying that it is completely impossible for them to enjoy rape.

    My opinion is that a very small minority of both genders would enjoy non-consensual sex. I think the majority of their minds would probably be wondering how long until its over. Moreover, I believe a lot of people can change their opinions to help them cope with the experience. I just can't fathom a person, male or female, enjoying something that they didn't want in the first place. This is reguardless of wheter or not they reach an organism.
     
  20. CSolarstorm

    CSolarstorm New spicy version

    If the internet is ever government regulated, I won't miss jarring topics like this. 'Kids, let's talk about whether or not rape can be enjoyable.' Good idea.

    ...that, and I wish an actual rape victim would come in here and raise some hell about the inherent injustice about having a conversation like this.
     
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