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Rate my Battle Frontier Team... Please??

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Right Here goes!!
My in game Battle Frontier Team

Heracross@ Undecided/Salac Berry??
Trait-Guts
Nature-Jolly
Evs-HP 30, Attack 240, Speed 240
-Endure
-Reversal
-Megahorn
-Brick Break

Sceptile@ Scope Lense
Trait-Overgrow
Nature-Modest
EVs-, Def 25, Sp Attack 243, Speed, 242
-HP Psychic
-Leaf Blade
-Thunder Punch
-Crunch

Charizard@ Whire Herb
Trait-Blaze
Nature-Serious
EVs-110 Attack, 160 Sp Attack, 250 Speed
-Overheat
-Rock Slide/EQ
-Arial Ace
-Dragon Dance

Kingdra@ Undecided??
Trait-Swift Swim
Nature-Timid
EVs-10 HP, 250 Sp Attack, 250 Speed
-Hydro Pump/Waterfall (not sure yet cos I dont want Surf)
-Dragonbreath
-Rain Dance
-Ice Beam

Nidoking@ Brightpowder
Trait-Poison Point
Nature-Adamant
EVs-HP 10, Attack 250, Speed 250
-Earthquake
-Sludge Bomb
-Shadow Ball
-Megahorn

Zapdos@
Trait-Pressure
Nature-Naive
EVs-, 252 Attack, 5 Sp Def, 253 Speed
-TBolt
-Drill Peck
-Rest
-Sleep Talk

Please Discuss!! Especially ^ Zdos!! Willing to scrap and start again with it/get something better!!
 
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A short summary of the problems with this team:

Since this is the Frontier, and it has that moronic Item Clause, put a Shell Bell in here somewhere. Leftovers >>>>>> Shell Bell, but meh.

STABless Heracross. You, sir, are wasting one of the highest Attacks and excellent STAB for Rock Slide. Brick Break plz.

Outrage Charizard. One Physical Move to go with its DD. EQ>Outrage.

Dragonbreath. That's wrong no matter what Pokémon you have it on. Flail and Endure on Kingdra.

Nidoking without Megahorn. Body Slam on Nidoking is useless as it doesn't get STAB or SEs.

Toxic Zapdos is so wrong it deserves a separate post explaining how incorrect that is. Rest and Sleep Talk > Toxic and Protect. I doubt you have HP Ice or Grass for it, so I suppose Drill Peck is about the only option. It'll get rid of Bug, Grass, and Fighting Types, at any rate, and Ground Types won't totally lol at you.

Enormous BoltBeam weakness here. Bolt > Charizard(who should never be on a serious team in the first place), and Beam > Nidoking, Zapdos, and Sceptile. Heracross and Kingdra don't have a direct BoltBeam weakness, but neither of them, especially Heracross, is going to last long against a good BoltBeamer.

Too much Sweeping, not enough Walling. Put Suicune/Claydol/Blissey or some other good Wall somewhere on this team, probably > Charizard.

If you're going to have Leftovers on anything, it should be Kingdra, because it's the only one who's going to take a good hard blow and live. Some Pinch Berry for Zapdos, maybe Petaya. Leftovers is Standard on it, but meh.

EDIT: Just looked at the EVs:

252 Attack on Zapdos accomplishes nothing, especially if you only have one Physical move. The STAB should support you fine, you don't need Attack EVs for it.

4 EVs = 1 Stat Point. Never use 253, 254, or 255 EVs, because you'll only be wasting potential EVs. The Stat is maxed out at 252, giving it 252+ won't do anything.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
 
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~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
STABless Heracross. You, sir, are wasting one of the highest Attacks and excellent STAB for Rock Slide. Brick Break plz.

It has Megahorn... EndRevving sucks anyways.

By the way, the Sceptile is sharked...
 
M

~-=Mewtwo=-~

Guest
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
4 EVs = 1 Stat Point. Never use 253, 254, or 255 EVs, because you'll only be wasting potential EVs. The Stat is maxed out at 252, giving it 252+ won't do anything.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
Uh... there are two useless EV's anyways... But yea it won't do anything... (255 is a waste...)
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
A short summary of the problems with this team:

Since this is the Frontier, and it has that moronic Item Clause, put a Shell Bell in here somewhere. Leftovers >>>>>> Shell Bell, but meh.

STABless Heracross. You, sir, are wasting one of the highest Attacks and excellent STAB for Rock Slide. Brick Break plz.

Outrage Charizard. One Physical Move to go with its DD. EQ>Outrage.

Dragonbreath. That's wrong no matter what Pokémon you have it on. Flail and Endure on Kingdra.

Nidoking without Megahorn. Body Slam on Nidoking is useless as it doesn't get STAB or SEs.

Toxic Zapdos is so wrong it deserves a separate post explaining how incorrect that is. Rest and Sleep Talk > Toxic and Protect. I doubt you have HP Ice or Grass for it, so I suppose Drill Peck is about the only option. It'll get rid of Bug, Grass, and Fighting Types, at any rate, and Ground Types won't totally lol at you.

Enormous BoltBeam weakness here. Bolt > Charizard(who should never be on a serious team in the first place), and Beam > Nidoking, Zapdos, and Sceptile. Heracross and Kingdra don't have a direct BoltBeam weakness, but neither of them, especially Heracross, is going to last long against a good BoltBeamer.

Too much Sweeping, not enough Walling. Put Suicune/Claydol/Blissey or some other good Wall somewhere on this team, probably > Charizard.

If you're going to have Leftovers on anything, it should be Kingdra, because it's the only one who's going to take a good hard blow and live. Some Pinch Berry for Zapdos, maybe Petaya. Leftovers is Standard on it, but meh.

EDIT: Just looked at the EVs:

252 Attack on Zapdos accomplishes nothing, especially if you only have one Physical move. The STAB should support you fine, you don't need Attack EVs for it.

4 EVs = 1 Stat Point. Never use 253, 254, or 255 EVs, because you'll only be wasting potential EVs. The Stat is maxed out at 252, giving it 252+ won't do anything.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
Edited some of the Shite out!!

chaos952 said:
By the way, the Sceptile is sharked...
WTF?? How can you just make that assumption?? I am one of the Most honest gamers ever!! I would never touch a Game Shark!!

~-=Mewtwo=-~ said:
Uh... there are two useless EV's anyways... But yea it won't do anything... (255 is a waste...)
Too late now!! LoL!!
 
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
STABless Heracross. You, sir, are wasting one of the highest Attacks and excellent STAB for Rock Slide. Brick Break plz.

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
I'd hardly call having half its movepool, reversal and megahorn, STABless.
 
fighting_master said:
WTF?? How can you just make that assumption?? I am one of the Most honest gamers ever!! I would never touch a Game Shark!!

Sceptile cannot learn Ice Punch. You are a liar.
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
chaos952 said:
Sceptile cannot learn Ice Punch. You are a liar.
Oh F*ck you are right!! Sorry About that!!
I shall Edit that Immidiately!! The Pokemon isnt Finished Quite yet (move wise) and I thought It was only fire Punch that It couldn't learn!!
I appologise!!
TPunch it is then!!
 
A pretty good team. I don't see the point of Dragonbreath on Kingdra when you already have Ice beam. The only Pokemon that Dragon breath is useful for is other Kingdras and they are not very common (well, it is random but i rarely see them.) Even with STAB Ice beam>dragonbreath. You could have Rest instead of Dragonbreath and give Kingdra Chesto berries.
For Charizard, Earthquake>Rock Slide because you want Earthqukae to have any chance against Rock Types. Rock Slide will be good against Rock-types like Armaldo and Shuckle and Aerodactyl but Earthquake is better for Rocks overall and is stonger and more Accurate (and you can use it in double battles with Zapdos and Heracross.)

anyways, it is a good team.
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
stab SE dragonbreath does more then normal effectivness Ice beam ._.
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
SHUCKLE MAN said:
A pretty good team. I don't see the point of Dragonbreath on Kingdra when you already have Ice beam. The only Pokemon that Dragon breath is useful for is other Kingdras and they are not very common (well, it is random but i rarely see them.) Even with STAB Ice beam>dragonbreath. You could have Rest instead of Dragonbreath and give Kingdra Chesto berries.
For Charizard, Earthquake>Rock Slide because you want Earthqukae to have any chance against Rock Types. Rock Slide will be good against Rock-types like Armaldo and Shuckle and Aerodactyl but Earthquake is better for Rocks overall and is stonger and more Accurate (and you can use it in double battles with Zapdos and Heracross.)

anyways, it is a good team.
Cheers...
Much apreciated!!
*Changes*

Ice Beam=Stabbed Dragonbreath!! :D (95... I think thats right!!)
 
Ashi, I forgot Reversal was a Fighting move ._. Well, EndRevving is idiotic anyway, especially as you get a lot of Quick Attack users InGame, and the CPUs are actually smart enough to QA you if you're EndRevving(surprisingly).

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
~*Commander Blizzard*~ said:
Ashi, I forgot Reversal was a Fighting move ._. Well, EndRevving is idiotic anyway, especially as you get a lot of Quick Attack users InGame, and the CPUs are actually smart enough to QA you if you're EndRevving(surprisingly).

~*CB*~
The 8th Champion
That is a large problem!! Especially on later levels, etc!!
 
T

TOY MACHINE

Guest
If you are going to endure reversal i'd use hasty nature, with -def +speed makes sure you go down to 1 hp it needs the speed.

Hp psychic is kinda lol
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
It ahs a Jolly Nature, Which lowers Sp Attack and raises speed, Which should be good enough...
I dont Neseserily want it to always drop down to 1HP though...
 
T

TOY MACHINE

Guest
yeah it is an endversaler right? they are only good for that one purpose mabey you get a megahorn or 2 in but the reversaling is its main function
 

aipomkong

prophecy fulfilled
1%-3% hp ensures max power reversal
 
T

TOY MACHINE

Guest
ok i didnt know the exact details to its power but does it really matter 1-3%?
 
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