Rate my BF Team! Please!

[Mudkip of DVN]

Here is my newly remodeled water BF team. Please keep movesets appropriate to nature, not starting over, already used Substitute, and I do not have trade access. They are all Lv50:


ESPEON @ KING'S ROCK
SYNCHRONIZE
EVs: 255 SA, 255 SPD
GENTLE


1. Calm Mind
2. Psychic
3. Bite
4. Baton Pass



SUICUNE @ FOCUS BAND
PRESSURE
EV's: 252 HP, 252 SA, Rest SPD
GENTLE

1. Rain Dance
2. Surf
3. Ice Beam
4. Roar



SWAMPERT @ Quick Claw
TORRENT
EV's: 100 ATK, 255 SA, 100 SD, Rest (I think) DEF
QUIET

1. Surf
2. Ice Beam
3. Mud Shot
4. Protect



VAPOREON @ SCOPE LENS
WATER ABSORB
EV's: 255 HP, 255 SA
RELAXED

1. Surf
2. Ice Beam
3. Bite
4. Haze



LUDICOLO @ LEFTOVERS
RAIN DISH
EV's: 100 DEF, 255 SA, 100 SD, Rest SP
MODEST

1. Surf
2. Ice Beam
3. Giga Drain
4. Leech Seed



For the sixth slot, I plan to use Lanturn. My team may seem a bit unbalanced, but I'm trying to win using my favs.


Here is how I use each Pokemon:


BATTLE PIKE
Espeon, Ludicolo, Swampert


BATTLE PALACE
Espeon, Suicune, Swampert


BATTLE ARENA
Vaporeon, Ludicolo, Swampert


BATTLE PYRAMID
Depends


BATTLE TOWER
Depends


BATTLE DOME
Espeon, Ludicolo, Suicune

 

[Fluorescent Adolescent]

Here is my newly remodeled water BF team. Please keep movesets appropriate to nature, not starting over, already used Substitute, and I do not have trade access. They are all Lv50:


ESPEON @ Leftovers
SYNCHRONIZE
EVs: 6HP/252 SpAtk/252 Spd
Timid/Calm
1. Calm Mind
2. Psychic
3. Substitute
4. Baton Pass



SUICUNE @ Leftovers
PRESSURE
EVs: 240 HP / 200 Def / 70 Spd
Bold

1. Rest
2. Surf
3. Ice Beam
4. Roar



SWAMPERT @ Leftovers
TORRENT
EVs: 150 HP/50 Atk/100 Def/44 SAtk/176 SDef
Brave

1. Surf
2. Ice Beam
3. EQ
4. Curse/rest/roar

lol EQless 'pert. If you decide roar, add calm mind>roar on 'cune. BTW EV's aren't accurate. 'Pert's EV's are difficult


VAPOREON @ Leftovers
WATER ABSORB
EVs: 220 HP/118 Def/76 SAtk/96 SDef
Calm

1. Surf
2. Ice Beam
3. Substitute
4. Baton pass/Wish

No need for haze considering you have roar.


LUDICOLO @ LEFTOVERS
RAIN DISH
EV's: 100 DEF, 255 SA, 100 SD, Rest SP
MODEST

1. Surf
2. Ice Beam
3. Giga Drain
4. Leech Seed

I don't do Ludicolo.



For the sixth slot, I plan to use Lanturn. My team may seem a bit unbalanced, but I'm trying to win using my favs.


Here is how I use each Pokemon:


BATTLE PIKE
Espeon, Ludicolo, Swampert


BATTLE PALACE
Espeon, Suicune, Swampert


BATTLE ARENA
Vaporeon, Ludicolo, Swampert


BATTLE PYRAMID
Depends


BATTLE TOWER
Depends


BATTLE DOME
Espeon, Ludicolo, Suicune

The team is boring D:

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

ISSUES:

- Already used Substitute
- Already used Roar
- Obviously cannot get another Suicune (Anyway, this thing has near-perfect IV's! All +20!)
- Already used CM (I know Suicune learns it, but Lv. 83? ...)
- Battle Palace is pretty much my best place for winning.
- Does that mean my Ludicolo is fine?

 

[aipomkong]

more like

ISSUES:

255/255 evs are stupid

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

I often lose count, so I end up having to do 255/255 to get an exact count...

CHANGES PLANNED:

-I'll put EQ on Swampert when it learns it- I'm not wasting the TM...
-Maybe Rest, too... But he'll never use it in the Palace...
-Don't like Cursepert ingame (or for BF anyway. This is a special team)

 

[Freakshow]

He has a BF team. How is he supposed to use all of those Leftovers with the item clause on?

 

[Fluorescent Adolescent]

He has a BF team. How is he supposed to use all of those Leftovers with the item clause on?

Like I give a flying f*ck.

Use alternatives such as Shell bell/adequate berries.

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

I have no stat upping berries, and I don't know how to get them anyway. I gave each of my Pokemon their items for a reason. EDIT: See below

 

[Fluorescent Adolescent]

I was referring to lum berry and all that. You may want to have rest and curse>Surf for 'pert and just add a chesto berry. Sucks but it's item clause ;/

 

[Freakshow]

I have no stat upping berries, and I don't know how to get them anyway. I gave each of my Pokemon their items for a reason. A speedy Espeon with Bite and King's Rock's odds of Flinch are about 1-in-2.

King's Rock doesn't increase/add the flinch to moves with effects already, so bite will still flinch at 30% chance

 

[aipomkong]

lol king's rock won't even work with psychic either, due to it's 10% sdef down effect

so you have an item doing nothing at all

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

EDIT: See below

 

[Freakshow]

Faster Pokemon have a higher rate of flinching. I don't have King's Rock for Psychic, I have it to compound on Bite.

As I said before, King's Rock doesn't work on Bite

 

[Delta]

Faster Pokemon have a higher rate of flinching. I don't have King's Rock for Psychic, I have it to compound on Bite.

You have a wrong concept about King´s rock. I used to think the same, but
0ma proved me wrong. KR works with moves that don´t have a side effect. Let´s take a look at your Espeon:

calm mind--------not an attack, King´s rock doesnpt work here
Psychic----------has a 10% chance of lowering Sdef. Not use for KR here
Byte-------------It already has a flinch chance KR WON´T upgrade it
Baton pass-------Same as CM

 

[aipomkong]

Faster Pokemon have a higher rate of flinching.

urm... wtf? no they don't

flinch isn't determined on speed it is determined by the move ffs

a camerupt using rock slide still has 30% chance of flinching something, just like an aeroactyl would have

the only way speed effects flinching, is that you need to attack first to be able to flinch, but it has nothing to do with the rates

also way to actually read replys, as 2 posts said about king's rock's effect on moves with effects, and you just ignored them

 

[Mudkip of DVN]

I took off King's Rock for White Herb. I know it's not the greatest item, and leftovers would be better, but with the item restriction... I'd like to not Baton Pass any lowered stats, anyway. And then whoever told me that slower Pokemon can't flinch as often is wrong, I guess... Although it seemed like that... probably just a coincedence.