Lord_Sunday
Remember me from RSE
Still needs a lot of works. I feel my original team (changed last 3 pokes since then) had a bit of a Hera / Tyranitar weak, and generally anything with persuit ruins my day. Was also thinking I could REALLY go for some Wish support from something like Vappy...
;373;Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest
252 Satk / 252 Spd / 4 hp
-Draco Meteor
-Dragon Pulse
-Flamethrower
-Hydro Pump
I like this thing. And I've heard about how people combine it with Jirachi 'cause they cover each others weaks so here it is, my Jirachi:
;376;Metgross @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 Hp / 232 Atk / 16 Def / 8 Spd
-Meteor Mash
-Hammer Arm
-Earthquake
-Explosion
Hehehe. Jirachi. Lol. Anyway, the plan is to attack with some of the hardest hitting attacks in the game (namely Specsmence's Draco Metoer and CBGross' Meteor Mash) and wear down the opponents defences quickly, hopefully forcing a few sacrafices in order to force these two out. Hammer Arm is my way of using this thing to deal with SkarmBlissey, as after one speed reduction Skarms cant roost on it or risk over 70% damage from the SE hit. Though being locked into it by Cb won't be fun against any ghosts ;_;
As said they swap into each others weaknesses, and there are very few pokes who carry moves that can 1HKO both in their moveset. Though two (If you find more than please tell me as I need to counter them) that do are Salamence (lol) And Garchomp. So to deal with those we have...
;488;Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpAtk
-Ice beam
-Charge Beam
-Rest
-Sleep talk
Im going to have to find a VERY good Cresselia to ake this work...Garunteed 1hko on a 4 / 0 Garchomp, though admitidly I'm doubting Twave as it obviously doesn't effect him. Ditched that idea and went with reSTalk set due to "popular demand"
Now this is where is starts getting complicated (for me). Originally I had a Fortress, Donphan and Dusknoir as I though Spiking was very much intune with my other stratergy. But now I'm not so sure...Dusknoir left me open to persuit Tyranitar opening massive holes in two of my walls and something just didn't feel right. My walls should really resist Metagross'es and Salamences weaks, but these two didn't...So I've made up my mind. Wish support FTW
;134;Vapoeron @ Leftovers
Bold
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpAtk
-Surf
-Wish
-Ice beam / Substitute
-Yawn / Protect / Batton pass
Did I mention how much Heatran hates the little dog? Well the smogon analysis told me it was a counter when I realised it (Heatran) could rip through Salamence and Metagross with Laveplume and Dragon Pulse. Im wondering whether to go for Ice beam + filler or Sub + batton pass (leaning towards pass). Subs could really help me get Salamence and to a lesser extent Metagross in on things that they normally couldn't. Though with Yawn I can Phase and could spare a moveset on my next poke...
Now I really don't know what to do next... I went to Marriland to use their team builder to check for weaks. Wow nice. No two pokemon so far share a weak...hehe I could add Spiritomb and Blissey in and leave it that way but I didnt really want to do that... I Also realise that I don't have a proper Phazer (bar Yawn on Vappy) so that was on the list of what I needed...
;110;Wheezing @ Black Sludge
Impish
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
-WoW
-Pain split
-Explosion
-Haze
Really wanted Explosion in there somewhere so I can blow up in the fat ballerinas face. Something else can kill Gyara with the extencive use of boltbeam on this team.
I just noticed how Special based this whole team is. Obviousally the exception is Metagross but Blissey could really get in the way. Now I can just blow up in its face (yay!)
Now the final piece, which assures that no two pokemon have the same weaks. Soz guys, but I had too...
;242;Blissey! @ Leftovers
Bold
252 Def / something the previous owner did
-Thunder(bolt)
-Softboiled
-Sing
-Seismic toss
Awesome! Puts stuff to sleep, keeps Dragons away with the very thought of ice beam. Tricks stupid Gyaras who think they can use Bliss as setup fodder into eating thunderbolt. <3
OK! This team is being tested on Shoddy as we speak and all of your comments are really appreciated! Any changes are EASY to make and probably will be made if your reasoning is sound. Thanks for reading and please be appreciative that making this team was a bit of effort for me so don't spam / flame in this thread. Also thanks for reading these chunks of writing!
;373;Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest
252 Satk / 252 Spd / 4 hp
-Draco Meteor
-Dragon Pulse
-Flamethrower
-Hydro Pump
I like this thing. And I've heard about how people combine it with Jirachi 'cause they cover each others weaks so here it is, my Jirachi:
;376;Metgross @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 Hp / 232 Atk / 16 Def / 8 Spd
-Meteor Mash
-Hammer Arm
-Earthquake
-Explosion
Hehehe. Jirachi. Lol. Anyway, the plan is to attack with some of the hardest hitting attacks in the game (namely Specsmence's Draco Metoer and CBGross' Meteor Mash) and wear down the opponents defences quickly, hopefully forcing a few sacrafices in order to force these two out. Hammer Arm is my way of using this thing to deal with SkarmBlissey, as after one speed reduction Skarms cant roost on it or risk over 70% damage from the SE hit. Though being locked into it by Cb won't be fun against any ghosts ;_;
As said they swap into each others weaknesses, and there are very few pokes who carry moves that can 1HKO both in their moveset. Though two (If you find more than please tell me as I need to counter them) that do are Salamence (lol) And Garchomp. So to deal with those we have...
;488;Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpAtk
-Ice beam
-Charge Beam
-Rest
-Sleep talk
Im going to have to find a VERY good Cresselia to ake this work...Garunteed 1hko on a 4 / 0 Garchomp, though admitidly I'm doubting Twave as it obviously doesn't effect him. Ditched that idea and went with reSTalk set due to "popular demand"
Now this is where is starts getting complicated (for me). Originally I had a Fortress, Donphan and Dusknoir as I though Spiking was very much intune with my other stratergy. But now I'm not so sure...Dusknoir left me open to persuit Tyranitar opening massive holes in two of my walls and something just didn't feel right. My walls should really resist Metagross'es and Salamences weaks, but these two didn't...So I've made up my mind. Wish support FTW
;134;Vapoeron @ Leftovers
Bold
188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SpAtk
-Surf
-Wish
-Ice beam / Substitute
-Yawn / Protect / Batton pass
Did I mention how much Heatran hates the little dog? Well the smogon analysis told me it was a counter when I realised it (Heatran) could rip through Salamence and Metagross with Laveplume and Dragon Pulse. Im wondering whether to go for Ice beam + filler or Sub + batton pass (leaning towards pass). Subs could really help me get Salamence and to a lesser extent Metagross in on things that they normally couldn't. Though with Yawn I can Phase and could spare a moveset on my next poke...
Now I really don't know what to do next... I went to Marriland to use their team builder to check for weaks. Wow nice. No two pokemon so far share a weak...hehe I could add Spiritomb and Blissey in and leave it that way but I didnt really want to do that... I Also realise that I don't have a proper Phazer (bar Yawn on Vappy) so that was on the list of what I needed...
;110;Wheezing @ Black Sludge
Impish
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
-WoW
-Pain split
-Explosion
-Haze
Really wanted Explosion in there somewhere so I can blow up in the fat ballerinas face. Something else can kill Gyara with the extencive use of boltbeam on this team.
I just noticed how Special based this whole team is. Obviousally the exception is Metagross but Blissey could really get in the way. Now I can just blow up in its face (yay!)
Now the final piece, which assures that no two pokemon have the same weaks. Soz guys, but I had too...
;242;Blissey! @ Leftovers
Bold
252 Def / something the previous owner did
-Thunder(bolt)
-Softboiled
-Sing
-Seismic toss
Awesome! Puts stuff to sleep, keeps Dragons away with the very thought of ice beam. Tricks stupid Gyaras who think they can use Bliss as setup fodder into eating thunderbolt. <3
OK! This team is being tested on Shoddy as we speak and all of your comments are really appreciated! Any changes are EASY to make and probably will be made if your reasoning is sound. Thanks for reading and please be appreciative that making this team was a bit of effort for me so don't spam / flame in this thread. Also thanks for reading these chunks of writing!
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