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Edward Prior

Chewy?
Bulbasaur(Fushi)@?
Overgrow
Modest
-Sunny Day
-Solar Beam
-Synthesis
-Sludge Bomb

Poliwrath()@?
Water Absorb
Brave
-Brick Break
-Earthquake
-?
-?

Ledian(Red)@?
Early Bird
?
-Substitute
-Agility
-Baton Pass
-Focus Punch/Silver Wind

Castform(Morpheo)@?
Forecast
Modest
-Sunny Day
-Rain Dance
-Hail
-Weather Ball

Metagross()@?
Clear Body
?
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion?
-?

Please don't suggest that I drop any of them, even if you think the poke is no good, because these are my faves; they are picked purely cause I like the way they look, act etc.
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Edward Prior said:
Bulbasaur(Fushi)@ Leftovers
Overgrow
Careful
-Swords Dance
-Sleep Powder
-Synthesis
-Sludge Bomb

Poliwrath()@ Leftovers
Water Absorb
Brave
-Brick Break
-Earthquake
-Bulk Up
-Substitute

OR
Poliwrath@ Salac
Jolly Nature
-Belly Drum
-Substitute
-Brick Break
-EQ

Ledian(Red)@ Leftovers/Salac
Early Bird
Jolly
-Substitute
-Agility
-Baton Pass
-Silver Wind

Castform(Morpheo)@ Leftovers
Forecast
Modest
-Sunny Day
-Fire Blast
-Solar Beam
-Weather Ball/Thunder Wave

Metagross()@ Choice Band
Clear Body
Adamant
-Meteor Mash
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Shadow Ball/Rock Slide

Please don't suggest that I drop any of them, even if you think the poke is no good, because these are my faves; they are picked purely cause I like the way they look, act etc.
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They are my suggestions.
 
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Edward Prior

Chewy?
Yay! My Ledian was correct with the moves. I liked that one. But:
- why so many subs? That wolud be very hard to get.
- weather ball moveset>anything else castfrom can learn.
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
-The ledian was acceptable in my eyes. Not great, acceptable.
-Sub=love
-Weather Ball is more of a filler when you already have Fire Blast.
 
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Edward Prior

Chewy?
The info on this was got of a site other than serebii.net, so don't blame me if it's wrong, and I don't think I am allowed to name it either-

Weather Ball's Base power = 50
Weather Ball's power doubles under a weather condition (Sunny Day, Rain Dance or Hail but not Sandstorm).
Weather Ball's elemental type changes to Fire for Sunny Day, Water for Rain Dance and Ice for Hail. Since Castform's type changes accordingly, this results in a 50% same-type attack bonus. (Weather Ball will become Rock type if Sandstorm is used, and in Pokémon XD, Shadow type if Shadow Sky is used, but Castform's type will not change.)
Sunny Day and Rain Dance increase the power of Fire and Water-type attacks respectively by 50%.

So, Weather Ball = Normal 75, Ice 150, Fire 225, Water 225

If this is true, then for instance-

Flamethrower with stab over 6 turns- 142.5*6 = 855
Sunny Day then WB fro 5 turns- 225*5= 1125
and Fire Blast as you suggested can't even be used 6 times!

ps. I am sceptical of the *2 bit, but remember, with such a broad moveset, there is a high chance of super effective anyway
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
That means that you constantly have to set up a different weather condition. That was the point that I was getting at. Have one Eliment, not all 3.

Also, I am sure it doesn't double the power and THEN get an extra 1.5 power from the sunny day (for example)!
It will only be one.
 
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Edward Prior

Chewy?
Yeah, thats what I thought, but even if it is, and the website is wrong,

Normal 75, Ice 150, Fire 150, Water 150

is not to be sniffed at, and the four types make it easy for a super effective. Oh, and why does your Bulbasaur emphasize Attack over SA? And how do I get both Poliwrathand Metagross learning Earthquake?
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
If you don't have 2 TMs, you could have Rock Slide over EQ on Metagross. The main Problem is that HP [Ghost or bug] would go over EQ on Poliwrath usually, but that is bloomin' hard to get ingame.
 
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Edward Prior

Chewy?
Fighting_Master said:
If you don't have 2 TMs, you could have Rock Slide... The main Problem is that HP [Ghost or bug] is bloomin' hard to get ingame.
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Oh and getting two TMs isn't? ;001; Why attack moves on Bulbasaur? ;001;
 
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Freeze Knight

super cuno
Because Bulba isn't good for anything else...
 
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Edward Prior

Chewy?
Freeze Knight said:
Because Bulba isn't good for anything else...
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OK, first the proper arguement- Bulbasaur's base SA is approximately 33% higher than her Attack stat. SA>A

And now... BULBASAUR OWNS YOU FOOL! Eh hem... sorry, but you had it coming, it did sound like an insult...
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
ooooooookkkkkkk... One problem, Bubusaurs Special movepull is poor.
It can learn Swords Dance.
It gets a sexy stab on Sludge Bomb.
EQ is also an option.

But a Special Venusaur would be like this
Venu@ Leftovers
Modest/Calm Nature
-Magical Leaf/Razor Leaf
-Sleep Powder
-Leech Seed
-Synthesis
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Evs for Physical Venusaur
-Careful Nature
-102 HP
-200 Attack
-52 Defence
-116 Speed
-40 Sp Defence

The world isn't conquered by the likes of 252 Ev spreads/Splits.
 
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Tazzler

Well-Known Member
I used this ms for castform:

Castform@Leftovers
Modest Nature
-Rain Dance
-Thunder/Thunderbolt
-Weaher Ball
-Ice Beam

Alternate for the sunny-beaming version.
 
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magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Nine Thou said:
I've always liked this set for Poliwrath:

Poliwrath @ Leftovers
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Substitute
- Belly Drum
- Focus Punch
- Hydro Pump

Hit anything with Hydro Pump that you can't hit with Focus Punch. Nothing resists this set.
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I have that set on my NetBattle Poliwrath, and it doesn't like me, so I prefer the Salac one. Though I have HP [Ghost] over EQ.
 
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Edward Prior

Chewy?
Fighting_Master said:
Evs for Physical Venusaur
-Careful Nature
-102 HP
-200 Attack
-52 Defence
-116 Speed
-40 Sp Defence

The world isn't conquered by the likes of 252 Ev spreads/Splits.
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Woh! Complex or what!
 
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