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Exokriz

Guest
Fix anything you see that needs to be fixed, change pokemon and moves NOTE: I will not exchange Venusaur Charizard or Blastoise for differnt Pokemon but I will exchange the other 3.

Venusaur @ Leftovers
Sassy (+SDef, -Spd)
- Sludge Bomb
- Razor Leaf
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder

Charizard @ Leftovers
Lonely (+Atk, -Def) / Naughty (+Atk, -SDef)
- Swords Dance
- Fly
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast

Blastoise @ Leftovers
Bold (+Def, -Atk) / Relaxed (+Def, -Spd)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Counter
- Rest

Alakazam @ Leftovers
Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Recover
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch / Thunderpunch

Gengar @ Leftovers
Hasty (+Spd, -Def) / Naive (+Spd, -SDef)
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Hypnosis

Dodrio @Choice Band
Adamant (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Return
-Drill Peck
-Steel Wing
-Quick Attack
 
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bigtisme

Beginning Trainer
I would say overall it looks good i would go with return over double edge on dodrio and fire over thunder punch on alakazam. Maybe a jolly natured dodrio.
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Charizard @ Leftovers
Lonely (+Atk, -Def) / Naughty (+Atk, -SDef)
- Swords Dance
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
nah

Charizard @ Petaya Berry / Leftovers
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Fly / Aerial Ace / Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Substitute
Gengar @ Leftovers
Hasty (+Spd, -Def) / Naive (+Spd, -SDef)
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Punch
Lonely Nature.
gl working FP in-game.
 
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Deputy55

RK9 Unit
Your gengar doesn't have many of his native moves. Dodrio looks good. Alakazam, I think you should teach him Psybeam. Psybeam is a pretty good Psy move, not as effective as psychic but...
 
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Exokriz

Guest
Fighting Master said:
nah

Charizard @ Petaya Berry / Leftovers
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Fly / Aerial Ace / Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Substitute

Why Fly? HM moves suck with an exception of Surf. He is also supposed to be a Physical Sweeper.

Deputy55 said:
Your gengar doesn't have many of his native moves. Dodrio looks good. Alakazam, I think you should teach him Psybeam. Psybeam is a pretty good Psy move, not as effective as psychic but...

He is pretty much supposed to be a type coverage pokemon. I prefer Psychic>Psybeam, I give lots of PPUps to bring up Psychic so I can use it much more often then the default 10.
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
Why Fly? HM moves suck with an exception of Surf. He is also supposed to be a Physical Sweeper.
Fly works fine in-game.

Charizard is as a good Phys Sweeper in-game as it is good looking.
just no.
 
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Exokriz

Guest
Fighting Master said:
Fly works fine in-game.

Charizard is as a good Phys Sweeper in-game as it is good looking.
just no.

I can use Ariel Ace on him which is much better then Fly. I'm going to make an HM Slave anyway.
 

Deputy55

RK9 Unit
Fly rocks except against an electric poke. Besides, I didn't say to get rid if Pschic but Psybeam is a good attack to finish the guy so you dont have to waste your strongest move's PP.
 
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Exokriz

Guest
Fly rocks except against an electric poke. Besides, I didn't say to get rid if Pschic but Psybeam is a good attack to finish the guy so you dont have to waste your strongest move's PP.

I dont like the fact that i have to wait a turn before Fly attacks. I can do more Damage with Arial Ace in 2 turns then the 2 turns it take for fly to attack once. I knew what you meant about the Psybeam thing also, I can just give Psychic PPUps too raise it to its max so I can use it plenty of times.
 

magnemiteZ

Well-Known Member
I dont like the fact that i have to wait a turn before Fly attacks. I can do more Damage with Arial Ace in 2 turns then the 2 turns it take for fly to attack once. I knew what you meant about the Psybeam thing also, I can just give Psychic PPUps too raise it to its max so I can use it plenty of times.
no leftovers in-game means fly is better.
It has more Power.
You do more damage.
AA hitting twice over 2 turns does do more damage that 1 fly, yes, but you are forgetting that you don't get while in the air, so Fly just makes the battle last slightly longer, with you doing more damage each hit. No leftovers means you don't have to worry about the flying turn, and the AI being so dence, you don't need to worry about switches.
 

Tazzler

Well-Known Member
Fly works fine in-game.

Charizard is as a good Phys Sweeper in-game as it is good looking.
just no.

Too bad charizard's special movepool is a stabbed fire attack and an unstabbed dragon attack. Who would you use Timid with a physical attack?
 

Charizard15

Beginning Trainer
Fix anything you see that needs to be fixed, change pokemon and moves NOTE: I will not exchange Venusaur Charizard or Blastoise for differnt Pokemon but I will exchange the other 3.

Venusaur @ Leftovers
Sassy (+SDef, -Spd)
- Sludge Bomb
- Razor Leaf
- Leech SeedSleep Powder. You don't need BOTH Leech Seed and Synthesis since they do the same thing pretty much.
- Synthesis

Charizard @ Leftovers
Lonely (+Atk, -Def) / Naughty (+Atk, -SDef)
- Swords Dance
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
I think this is a good move set, though I've never used a Charizard.
Blastoise @ Leftovers
Bold (+Def, -Atk) / Relaxed (+Def, -Spd)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Counter
- Rest
This is good, I can't think of anything wrong here.
Alakazam @ Leftovers
Modest (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Recover
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch / Thunderpunch
This is a good move set too.
Gengar @ Leftovers
Hasty (+Spd, -Def) / Naive (+Spd, -SDef)
- Shadow Ball
- Focus PunchI don't like how the user will flich when the attack has hit the foe. Try Destiny Bond, or Psychic to take care of Psychic pokemon.
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Punch

Dodrio @Choice Band
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
-Return/Double-EdgeI wouldn't go with Double-Edge, I don't like moves that also hurt the user. Try tri Attack.B]
-Drill Peck
-Steel Wing
-Quick AttackBody Slam instead


Over all nice team.
 
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Exokriz

Guest
@Charizard15: I took some of the things you said and made some changes. Perferably, I like the Focus Punch on Gengar, and I did forget about the flinching think so I think I will exchange Gengars Ice Punch for Hypnosis this way I can attack my opponent while he is asleep, also I changed the 2 Attacks because I thought they were much better on Dodrio. On Venusaur instead of getting rid of Leech Seed I got rid of Synthesis since it is easier to drain the opponents HP while it is asleep. Thank you for your input.

Changes in first post.
 

Charizard15

Beginning Trainer
That plan should work, it's quite a good idea. Though make sure you don't use it on something that Venusaur is weak against, like flying, so it won't take forever to kill.
 
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Exokriz

Guest
That plan should work, it's quite a good idea. Though make sure you don't use it on something that Venusaur is weak against, like flying, so it won't take forever to kill.

I would switch to Gengar if a flying type came up so I could use T-bolt and shock the crap out of it.
 

bigtisme

Beginning Trainer
In my opinion Return >>>>>>>>> Tri attack. and i dont think you really need body slam instead of quick attack.
 

Frost Nova

The predator awaits.
@Charizard15: it's ironic you chose this username when you haven't used one before.

Venusaur needs Sleep Powder over Synthesis. Leech Seed is a MUST.

Zam needs Timid BTW.
 

Johnny Boy~

The Main Man Himself
All I say is use flamethrower/heatwave(its hard to get ingame...) instead of Fire blast. Sure, it has power, but a 8 pp max. Flamethrower is better for the pp, because ingame if youre going to the elite four you'll need more PP so you don't have to pack on ethers. Btw, arial ace>fly IMO, cause it doesn't miss what so ever. Plus, its the same strengh as wing attack. fly for ingame, though, cause its needed...
 
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