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RayDeoTwoDon Uber team

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Darkmaster Rannon

Thundercats Hoo!
http://rannonmephistonkane.deviantart.com/art/Raydeotwodon-139341327
Worst fanmon evar!

Well, I've always loved Mewtwo, and since he's much to powerful to ever hit the OU, I've decided instead to move to Ubers. So, before I restart my games/trade around, I thought I'd make sure the team can work. I am currently unable to get any D/P legendaries, unless a modest Giratina and bold Dialga work.

Deoxy-S @Focus Sash (Dr. Pepper)
Timid
252 SpA/ 6 Def/ 252 Spe
Stealth Rock
Spikes
Taunt
Shadowball

The fastest Doc around, fast Stealth rock or Taunt to take down other setup leads. Shadowball to 2hko other Deoxys. Spikes is filler. Much better lead than groudon, who kept getting taunted himself.

Groudon @leftovers (Coca-Cola)
Adamant
252 Hp/ 156 Atk/ 32 Def/ 60 SpD/ 8 Spe
Thunder wave
Overheat
Earthquake
Dragon Claw

Slow down other pokemon with a crippling thunder wave, Overheat to take out forretress and scizor, as they gave me problems in the past.

Mewtwo @Leftovers (Grape-Soda)
Timid
252 SpA/ 252 Spe /6 Hp
Thunderbolt
Ice beam
Aura Sphere
Calm Mind

Unless I switch to a more menacing Choice specs set, I think this is going to have to work. Any sets that you think would work better?

Rayquaza @Life Orb (7-UP)
Jolly
32 Hp/ 252 atk / 8 SpD/ 216 Spe
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
overheat

Did I mention that Forry and Scizor gave my team alot of problems? Switch in on obvious ground attacks, or in the late game for a sweep. I still don't like the 4x weakness and stealth rock damage, so I might switch it out for something.

Blissey @ leftovers (Miss Bliss)
Calm
Natural Cure
252 Def/ 40 SpA/ 216 SpD
Aromatherapy
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave
Softboiled.

Might take out thunder wave for something else, as Groudon does provide it. Aromatherapy because I realized that my team got status raped before. Maybe more SpD, as the Uber metagame is mostly based on Special as far as I remember.

Forretress @Leftovers (Can-Cola
Relaxed
252 HP/4 Def/252 SpD
Toxic Spikes
Spikes
Rapid Spin
Rest

Help please? Uber amazing EV spread so it won't die, not much to say beyond "overused set is overused"

That's it, any suggestions/critisms will be greatly apreciated. All those who hate Ubers, "Garchomp, sick 'em!" Remember, ubers is a whole nother ball game to OU.
 
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Lazabeam

Active Member
Those types are horrible in the uber tier you should really look into quiting rating.

Forry wants max up and def in the uber tier for it to ever survive long enough.

It seems like your going half stall half offense I recommend you pick one or the other. Give mewtwo the defensive spread if you decide for stall if not give him taunt or change quaza to SD so you can break stall.
 
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Blue Harvest

Banned
Careful with max HP and Special Defense is what most people use in Ubers. The Special Defense allows him to sponge most ubers hits, even things like Latias Thunder and any Dragon attack around.
 
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Wizard of 'Cos

Hi I'm Joe
Especially with Pain Split from HG/SS.
 
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Darkmaster Rannon

Thundercats Hoo!
To last two comments- What pokemon are you talking about? I'm sure that it's Forretress

Lazabeam said:
It seems like your going half stall half offense I recommend you pick one or the other. Give mewtwo the defensive spread if you decide for stall if not give him taunt or change quaza to SD so you can break stall.
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Well, what pokemon changes would you recommend for Offensive? Anything but Mewtwo really, although an uber change means I have to make a new fusion for it...

For the current team, it's quite easy for me to turn mewtwo over to a taunt set, and rayquaza into the wallbreaker.
 
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Wizard of 'Cos

Hi I'm Joe
Yes, Forrettres, use (as Blue Harvest said) 252Hp 4Def 252SpD, and a Careful nature for him.
 
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Darkmaster Rannon

Thundercats Hoo!
Wizard of 'Cos said:
Yes, Forrettres, use (as Blue Harvest said) 252Hp 4Def 252SpD, and a Careful nature for him.
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Changed Forretress EV spread. Keep the suggestions coming, you guys are great help!

EDIT: Playing around with the team on shoddy, it's currently Deoxys-e, groudon, mewtwo, rayquaza, blissy and scizor. will post final team results when happy with team.
 
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Lazabeam

Active Member
Umm timid max Spa latias does a minimum of 40% to max hp max spdef forre with thunder meaning he isn't sponging ****. Maybe you guys forgot about soul dew? Idk, and anyway why would you try to sponge latias with forre when you have bliss who takes nothing
 
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Darkmaster Rannon

Thundercats Hoo!
I recorded a shoddy battle (with Rayquaza changed to sword dance, mewtwo to taunttwo and scizor over forretress) now, besides my bad skills, what seems to be my team's weakness. This guy's Mewtwo lead raped me in the match before this. Can cola is Scizor, Grape soda is Mewtwo.

Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
DontAskMe sent out Mewtwo (lvl 100 Mewtwo).
rannonkai sent out Deoxys-e (lvl 100 Deoxys-e).
Deoxys-e is exerting its pressure!
Mewtwo is exerting its pressure!
Deoxys-e used Shadow Ball.
It's super effective!
Mewtwo lost 47% of its health.
Mewtwo used Flamethrower.
Deoxys-e lost 88% of its health.
---
Deoxys-e used Shadow Ball.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Mewtwo lost 53% of its health.
DontAskMe's Mewtwo fainted.
---
rannonkai: ...
DontAskMe switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
Deoxys-e lost 12% of its health.
rannonkai's Deoxys-e fainted.
---
rannonkai switched in Groudon (lvl 100 Groudon).
Groudon's Drought intensified the sun's rays!
The sun began to shine!
PoW_Slippers has entered the room.
PoW_Slippers: Eww. Ubers suck.
PoW_Slippers has left the room.
DontAskMe switched in Dialga (lvl 100 Dialga).
Dialga is exerting its pressure!
Groudon used Thunder Wave.
Dialga is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
Dialga's Lum Berry cured its Paralysis!
The sun continues to shine.
---
Dialga used Draco Meteor.
Groudon lost 73% of its health.
Dialga's special attack was harshly lowered.
Groudon used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Dialga lost 79% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
Groudon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Groudon restored 6% of its health.
---
Dialga used Draco Meteor.
Groudon lost 33% of its health.
rannonkai's Groudon fainted.
Dialga's special attack was harshly lowered.
The sun continues to shine.
---
rannonkai switched in Rayquaza (lvl 100 Rayquaza).
Rayquaza used Dragon Claw.
A critical hit!
Dialga lost 21% of its health.
DontAskMe's Dialga fainted.
Rayquaza lost 10% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
---
rannonkai: RAWR!
DontAskMe switched in Latios (lvl 100 Latios ?).
rannonkai switched in Miss Bliss (lvl 100 Blissey ?).
Latios used Thunder.
Miss Bliss lost 18% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
---
DontAskMe switched in Lugia (lvl 100 Lugia).
Lugia is exerting its pressure!
Miss Bliss used Thunder Wave.
Lugia is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
The sun continues to shine.
---
DontAskMe switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
rannonkai switched in GrapeSoda (lvl 100 Mewtwo).
GrapeSoda is exerting its pressure!
The sun continues to shine.
---
rannonkai switched in Rayquaza (lvl 100 Rayquaza).
Scizor used Bug Bite.
It's not very effective...
Rayquaza lost 43% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
---
DontAskMe switched in Palkia (lvl 100 Palkia).
Palkia is exerting its pressure!
Rayquaza used Overheat.
It's not very effective...
Palkia lost 12% of its health.
Rayquaza's special attack was harshly lowered.
Rayquaza lost 10% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
---
Palkia used Spacial Rend.
It's super effective!
Rayquaza lost 37% of its health.
rannonkai's Rayquaza fainted.
The sun continues to shine.
---
rannonkai switched in GrapeSoda (lvl 100 Mewtwo).
GrapeSoda is exerting its pressure!
GrapeSoda used Calm Mind.
GrapeSoda's special attack was raised.
GrapeSoda's special defence was raised.
Palkia used Spacial Rend.
GrapeSoda lost 47% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
---
GrapeSoda used Ice Beam.
Palkia lost 67% of its health.
GrapeSoda lost 10% of its health.
Palkia used Hydro Pump.
GrapeSoda lost 30% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
---
GrapeSoda used Ice Beam.
Palkia lost 21% of its health.
DontAskMe's Palkia fainted.
GrapeSoda lost 10% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
---
DontAskMe switched in Latios (lvl 100 Latios ?).
GrapeSoda used Ice Beam.
It's super effective!
Latios lost 100% of its health.
DontAskMe's Latios fainted.
GrapeSoda lost 3% of its health.
rannonkai's GrapeSoda fainted.
The sun continues to shine.
---
rannonkai: double KO!
DontAskMe switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
rannonkai switched in Can Cola (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Scizor used Superpower.
Can Cola lost 71% of its health.
Scizor's attack was lowered.
Scizor's defence was lowered.
Can Cola used Superpower.
Scizor lost 95% of its health.
Can Cola's attack was lowered.
Can Cola's defence was lowered.
The sun continues to shine.
---
rannonkai switched in Miss Bliss (lvl 100 Blissey ?).
Scizor used Superpower.
It's super effective!
Miss Bliss lost 82% of its health.
rannonkai's Miss Bliss fainted.
Scizor's attack was lowered.
Scizor's defence was lowered.
The sun continues to shine.
---
rannonkai switched in Can Cola (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Can Cola used Pursuit.
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Scizor lost 5% of its health.
DontAskMe's Scizor fainted.
The sun continues to shine.
---
DontAskMe switched in Lugia (lvl 100 Lugia).
Lugia is exerting its pressure!
Can Cola used Pursuit.
It's super effective!
Lugia lost 34% of its health.
Lugia is paralysed! It can't move!
The sun continues to shine.
Lugia's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lugia restored 6% of its health.
---
Can Cola used Pursuit.
It's super effective!
Lugia lost 37% of its health.
Lugia used Ice Beam.
It's not very effective...
Can Cola lost 9% of its health.
The sun continues to shine.
Lugia's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lugia restored 6% of its health.
---
Can Cola used Pursuit.
It's super effective!
Lugia lost 32% of its health.
Lugia is paralysed! It can't move!
The sun continues to shine.
Lugia's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lugia restored 6% of its health.
---
Can Cola used Pursuit.
It's super effective!
Lugia lost 17% of its health.
DontAskMe's Lugia fainted.
rannonkai wins!
 
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hunter522

Active Member
If you're runniing life orb on mewtwo, I suggest using recover to heal damage and invest on speed.
 
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Darkmaster Rannon

Thundercats Hoo!
hunter522 said:
If you're runniing life orb on mewtwo, I suggest using recover to heal damage and invest on speed.
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It's got a timid nature and max speed EV's, how could it possibly invest more into it? I think I'll just take out life orb for Leftovers, keeping Mewtwo alive longer, ever so slightly.

Recover would wast a move slot, losing me either an offensive move, taunt or calm mind, which would compromise the entire set!

EDIT: I'm also testing out another team, using Deoxys-e Palkia, Dialga, Kyogre, Wobbufett, and Groudon (For when I get platinum, by christmas) See anything wrong with it at first glance?
 
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calze6

Reclaiming da ladder
Perhaps you can put taunt on mewtwo or switch to specs. Blissey still prefers ice beam and forretress will perhaps do better with explosion as it can stop a rampaging garchomp. Also consider fire punch on groudon and you also only have one special sweeper.
 
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