Reasons why Pokemon D/P SHOULDNT be Online

[Rabid_Latias]

I will compile a list of reasons why D/P shouldnt be online.

For One:

Pokemon is a game thats considered 'unbeatable' (as in completeing the Pokedex) by many without the use of cheats. This will cause a problem online. How do you know the Pokemon YOUR getting hasnt been created by a person with a cheating device? You cant. If you plan to go to a Nintendo event, and say you traded a pokemon for a Charmander, which is now Charizard, but the Charmander was cheated, youll be kicked from the Tournament. Not only that, but this will cause mass problems as people will offer to trade extremely rare pokemon (which will be cheated) to people for a common Pokemon, which could cause problems.
For Two, how will we know what to trade for what? When someones standing a foot away from you, you can say "Ill Trade my Lugia for your Ho-oh.". How can you do this for someone across the world? "Well, the touch screen." That will cause problems still, as some people have sloppy handwriting, or may not beable to speak or translate what your saying. "Voice activation!" Once again, this will cause problems. If you dont understand the language, then your out of luck. Not only that, but Im sure some parents dont want there kids talking to a person halfway across the world. "The Keyboard feature, like in PictoChat!." This would make sence to, but is also flawwed. Language barriers, noobs, and time all effect this

Battleing:
Notice when link battling how laggish it gets. You have to choose a move, it is tranfered to the other gameboy, then they choose a move, it is sent to your gameboy. You wait, and see the move. They can go quite slow when the person is standing 3 feet away from you, wireless or with a cord. Imagine if there 3 Miles away, 30 miles away, or 3 countries away! Can you image how slow it will be if I try to fight someone who lives over in England, or lets say 5 states away (as I live in the US)? It wont go well, I can tell ya that.

It wont work properly. Its a good idea, of course, but the game is just made so putting it online isnt exactly the best idea...

Ill think of more. Post what you think about it being online.

 

[Nomytaker]

For Number two, they'll probabl do the board in the union room, style of trading.

 

[Rabid_Latias]

For Number two, they'll probabl do the board in the union room, style of trading.

That will be time consuming though.

Also, when you do that in the other games, you are standing near the person. You can verbally communicate with them if you wish. If there halfway across the country, you have to type the things out. Thats time comsuming, even with the touch screen and Stylus.

 

[Eszett]

Pokemon is a game thats considered 'unbeatable' (as in completeing the Pokedex) by many without the use of cheats. This will cause a problem online. How do you know the Pokemon YOUR getting hasnt been created by a person with a cheating device? You cant.

Yes you can. If Colosseum/XD can recognize a forged Pokemon, what's to say the servers for online play can't? ;[

If you plan to go to a Nintendo event, and say you traded a pokemon for a Charmander, which is now Charizard, but the Charmander was cheated, youll be kicked from the Tournament. Not only that, but this will cause mass problems as people will offer to trade extremely rare pokemon (which will be cheated) to people for a common Pokemon, which could cause problems.

We can always ban them from the servers if they act unruly like that.

For Two, how will we know what to trade for what? When someones standing a foot away from you, you can say "Ill Trade my Lugia for your Ho-oh.". How can you do this for someone across the world? "Well, the touch screen." That will cause problems still, as some people have sloppy handwriting, or may not beable to speak or translate what your saying. "Voice activation!" Once again, this will cause problems. If you dont understand the language, then your out of luck. Not only that, but Im sure some parents dont want there kids talking to a person halfway across the world. "The Keyboard feature, like in PictoChat!." This would make sence to, but is also flawwed. Language barriers, noobs, and time all effect this

How do you reason that we won't know what we are getting if we've been able to exhaustively look over the Pokemon we obtain from link-cable and wireless adaptor trades for the near-decade the Pokemon games have been out? Nintendo wouldn't be foolish enough to simply drop this practice. ;[

Notice when link battling how laggish it gets. You have to choose a move, it is tranfered to the other gameboy, then they choose a move, it is sent to your gameboy. You wait, and see the move. They can go quite slow when the person is standing 3 feet away from you, wireless or with a cord. Imagine if there 3 Miles away, 30 miles away, or 3 countries away! Can you image how slow it will be if I try to fight someone who lives over in England, or lets say 5 states away (as I live in the US)? It wont go well, I can tell ya that.

Surely if they were able to get such fast-paced as Mario Kart DS working they can get a much slower game to work.

Ill think of more. Post what you think about it being online.

I think you're a fool for dismissing the possibility, especially after the director of the games announced that he would furtively explore this realm.

 

[DeoxysTrainer]

It should be for the gameboy since I dont have a DS,I got a PSP since I hated the Dual screen

 

[Spock]

Well, TOO BAD. THIS IS TO DEBATE WHETHER DP SHOULD BE ONLINE, NOT TO COMPLAIN THE SYSTEM.

But, on topic, Rabid_Latias does have a point, Eszett. But, you,too have backed up the point

 

[Rabid_Latias]

"How do you reason that we won't know what we are getting if we've been able to exhaustively look over the Pokemon we obtain from link-cable and wireless adaptor trades for the near-decade the Pokemon games have been out? Nintendo wouldn't be foolish enough to simply drop this practice. ;["

Your getting this all wrong. Yes they will have that, but alot of people are, dare I say it, morons (This is not an insult directly to anyone, but if you have played an MMO, you know what Im talking about. People are idiots). They will continually put up the same pokemon, even if you dont want it. People like to cause trouble. Also, some people just 'rap' the a button no matter what, there to lazy to even look whats going on cause they trust a friend(since your usually trading with a friend in the other pokemon games). Many other games have something similar to this, and there are still idiots who get ripped off. Whats to say the same thing cant happen on DP?

"Yes you can. If Colosseum/XD can recognize a forged Pokemon, what's to say the servers for online play can't? ;["

This may be true, I have no idea, but Im sure there are ways to bypass this on a gameshark, AR, whatever. There are codes in other games that surpass the game and allow you to make a Mew or Deoxys WITHOUT the game noticing it, and thereby makes them obedient. If they can fool the game, Im sure the Online service wont check the game again.

"urely if they were able to get such fast-paced as Mario Kart DS working they can get a much slower game to work."

I dont use the online Service on my DS yet, but let me ask you, does it involve a loading time before you enter a game online, or does it take you STRAIGHT into the action.

"It should be for the gameboy since I dont have a DS,I got a PSP since I hated the Dual screen"

Well, sorry for you then. Thats how there making the game. I wanted a few games on a different system, I would die if they made Halo on the PS2, but they wont. Lifes unfair. If you want DP when it comes out, then buy a DS. Other then that, theres not much you can do.

 

[chinchao]

Pokemon is a game thats considered 'unbeatable' (as in completeing the Pokedex) by many without the use of cheats. This will cause a problem online. How do you know the Pokemon YOUR getting hasnt been created by a person with a cheating device? You cant. If you plan to go to a Nintendo event, and say you traded a pokemon for a Charmander, which is now Charizard, but the Charmander was cheated, youll be kicked from the Tournament. Not only that, but this will cause mass problems as people will offer to trade extremely rare pokemon (which will be cheated) to people for a common Pokemon, which could cause problems.

You should be able to tell if it's cheated. In your Trainer Memo, if it says Charmander was caught on Route 111, you know it's false. If your Butterfree knows Explosion, you DEFINATELY know it's false. That's how Nintendo checks to see if you have illegal Pokémon, and if you can read, you'll succeed.

For Two, how will we know what to trade for what? When someones standing a foot away from you, you can say "Ill Trade my Lugia for your Ho-oh.". How can you do this for someone across the world? "Well, the touch screen." That will cause problems still, as some people have sloppy handwriting, or may not beable to speak or translate what your saying. "Voice activation!" Once again, this will cause problems. If you dont understand the language, then your out of luck. Not only that, but Im sure some parents dont want there kids talking to a person halfway across the world. "The Keyboard feature, like in PictoChat!." This would make sence to, but is also flawwed. Language barriers, noobs, and time all effect this

Like Nomytaker said, they'll probably use a board in the Union room where you are given a pop-up-list of your current Pokémon, and where you select one of them. You then are given a scroll-down list to select what Pokémon or types you want in return. That CAN be, and if this procedure is done (99% chance), WILL be translated.

Notice when link battling how laggish it gets. You have to choose a move, it is tranfered to the other gameboy, then they choose a move, it is sent to your gameboy. You wait, and see the move. They can go quite slow when the person is standing 3 feet away from you, wireless or with a cord. Imagine if there 3 Miles away, 30 miles away, or 3 countries away! Can you image how slow it will be if I try to fight someone who lives over in England, or lets say 5 states away (as I live in the US)? It wont go well, I can tell ya that.

It doesn't get laggish - your foe's choosing their move!
Plus, microwaves (the little things your phone company sends out to the satellites in space) travel FASTER than electric signals in your GBA/GBA SP/GBM/GBC/GB/DS.

But whatever dude. If you're saying this because your online experience with MKDS, ACWW, THAS, or other games online is poor, maybe you should switch to SouthWestern Bell or get a fatser Internet Connection.


EDIT: Crud, Eszett beat me to it. Ah, well. I covered on other points.

"How do you reason that we won't know what we are getting if we've been able to exhaustively look over the Pokemon we obtain from link-cable and wireless adaptor trades for the near-decade the Pokemon games have been out? Nintendo wouldn't be foolish enough to simply drop this practice. ;["

Your getting this all wrong. Yes they will have that, but alot of people are, dare I say it, morons. They will continually put up the same pokemon, even if you dont want it. People like to cause trouble. Also, some people just 'rap' the a button no matter what, there to lazy to even look whats going on cause they trust a friend(since your usually trading with a friend in the other pokemon games). Many other games have something similar to this, and there are still idiots who get ripped off. Whats to say the same thing cant happen on DP?

It can happen, and it will. 5 year-olds will trade their Rukario for a Caterpie. ¬_¬;;
Actually, it will happen to the minimal group. And, if you use the board feature, request a Pokémon that is a rip-off, that's your fault. And if you're saying this because you are afraid you'll get ripped off, I feel sorry for you, dude. I seriously do. I'll try not to rip you off when we go online.

"Yes you can. If Colosseum/XD can recognize a forged Pokemon, what's to say the servers for online play can't? ;["

This may be true, I have no idea, but Im sure there are ways to bypass this on a gameshark, AR, whatever. There are codes in other games that surpass the game and allow you to make a Mew or Deoxys WITHOUT the game noticing it, and thereby makes them obedient. If they can fool the game, Im sure the Online service wont check the game again.

Dude, like, the only way to cheat Pokémon without Nintendo noticing, is to, like, force Squirtle to be Charmander when you pick it up at Oak's lab. That way, it'll say, "Obtained at Lv 5 at Oak's Lab" which is what it would say if you played it regularly. And if they do that, dude, then like, what's the problem?

"Surely if they were able to get such fast-paced as Mario Kart DS working they can get a much slower game to work."

I dont use the online Service on my DS yet, but let me ask you, does it involve a loading time before you enter a game online, or does it take you STRAIGHT into the action.

Dude, it takes you straight to the course and gives all players a little time to get ready (like, 4-6 seconds of preperation) before the 3, 2, 1, GO! countdown.

"It should be for the gameboy since I dont have a DS,I got a PSP since I hated the Dual screen"

Well, sorry for you then. Thats how there making the game. I wanted a few games on a different system, I would die if they made Halo on the PS2, but they wont. Lifes unfair. If you want DP when it comes out, then buy a DS. Other then that, theres not much you can do.

The one thing I must agree with Rabid_Latias, is that, although one may want D/P for GB, it's not.

 

[Eszett]

Your getting this all wrong. Yes they will have that, but alot of people are, dare I say it, morons (This is not an insult directly to anyone, but if you have played an MMO, you know what Im talking about. People are idiots). They will continually put up the same pokemon, even if you dont want it. People like to cause trouble. Also, some people just 'rap' the a button no matter what, there to lazy to even look whats going on cause they trust a friend(since your usually trading with a friend in the other pokemon games). Many other games have something similar to this, and there are still idiots who get ripped off. Whats to say the same thing cant happen on DP?

It's not like they can't implement ignore/report features for annoying or abusive members. And with these facilities in mind, if an idiot gets ripped off, that's his own fault. Trades have never been made unilaterally within these games, and if you approve trading your Mew for a Wurmple then that would be your fault.

This may be true, I have no idea, but Im sure there are ways to bypass this on a gameshark, AR, whatever. There are codes in other games that surpass the game and allow you to make a Mew or Deoxys WITHOUT the game noticing it, and thereby makes them obedient. If they can fool the game, Im sure the Online service wont check the game again.

Once these members are figured out, they can always be banned from engaging in trades and battles. It's not too hard to figure out if a Pokemon was blatantly cheated, including some of the methods that Chinchao pointed out.

I dont use the online Service on my DS yet, but let me ask you, does it involve a loading time before you enter a game online, or does it take you STRAIGHT into the action.

I'm not sure, but my point is that if a game which requires a constant thoroughput of data can maintain a continuous stream of play, surely a game whereby you only send one instruction per turn could be designed to work.

Well, sorry for you then. Thats how there making the game. I wanted a few games on a different system, I would die if they made Halo on the PS2, but they wont. Lifes unfair. If you want DP when it comes out, then buy a DS. Other then that, theres not much you can do.

Quote for truth.

I don't have a DS yet, and I'm not complaining. I've been saving up for one as well; surely you can do likewise, DeoxysTrainer.

 

[Rabid_Latias]

"You should be able to tell if it's cheated. In your Trainer Memo, if it says Charmander was caught on Route 111, you know it's false. If your Butterfree knows Explosion, you DEFINATELY know it's false. That's how Nintendo checks to see if you have illegal Pokémon, and if you can read, you'll succeed"

You cant imagine what Gamesharks can do. I wouldnt be suprised if they could change your info around. Im pretty sure you can find ways to change your name, what route you found a certain pokemon, and whatnot if you look hard enough.

"Like Nomytaker said, they'll probably use a board in the Union room where you are given a pop-up-list of your current Pokémon, and where you select one of them. You then are given a scroll-down lisgt to select what Pokémon or types you want in return. That CAN be, and if this procedure is done (99% chance), WILL be translated."

Problems can still occur. Turning off your DS during the middle of training could also cause problems, or Duplications of Pokemon like it did in earlier series, or just cause problems with BOTH people. Problems can occur in teh Union room as well, because most the time you could also verbally contact a person, as they were at most 10 feet away. You cant do this the same way on the DS. Im sure your parents dont mind if you talk to a friend standing 10 feet away, but keep in mind this game is pointed towards children, that most parents dont want there kid talking to a person half way across the country...

"It doesn't get laggish - your foe's choosing their move!
Plus, microwaves (the little things your phone company sends out to the satellites in space) travel FASTER than electric signals in your GBA/GBA SP/GBM/GBC/GB/DS.

But whatever dude. If you're saying this because your online experience with MKDS, ACWW, THAS, or other games online is poor, maybe you should switch to SouthWestern Bell or get a fatser Internet Connection"

It does get laggy. The games have to connect to eachother, then show the moves your doing. Very few times its not because there choosing there moves, its because it processes slowly. I admit, they could work on this, but Im pretty sure there would be loading things, which would cause the battle to go slowly.

Im not sure what ANY of those Online games your talking about, but we do have a fast internet connection. We dont have something slow or buggy like AOL, NetZero, or any of that crap. We have high-speed, cable-connected internet...

"Quote for truth."

I hate quoting, but I guess I could start... I find it easier to use "[insert phrase here]"

"It's not like they can't implement ignore/report features for annoying or abusive members. And with these facilities in mind, if an idiot gets ripped off, that's his own fault. Trades have never been made unilaterally within these games, and if you approve trading your Mew for a Wurmple then that would be your fault."

Its possible that a report feature will be in the game. But still, people will be idiots no matter what. I am led to believe that WiFi can connect to a wireless router to use anywhere? I also believe that it leads off YOUR internet if you have it? Isnt it possible to download programs to change ISP addresses and return?

"Once these members are figured out, they can always be banned from engaging in trades and battles. It's not too hard to figure out if a Pokemon was blatantly cheated, including some of the methods that Chinchao pointed out."

And once again, its also simple to shark it so it will change to whatever you want. If you look long enough, I can guarentee you will find a code. Its like when I used to like that Yu-gi-oh crap a few years back because it was popular. On one of the games I needed to find a cheat for a special card. I couldnt find it, but after looking around for a while, I finally found it and it worked.

"I'm not sure, but my point is that if a game which requires a constant thoroughput of data can maintain a continuous stream of play, surely a game whereby you only send one instruction per turn could be designed to work."

Maybe it can, maybe it cant. It seems that working something out like that would take a while, and would probably push back the release date.

"Dude, like, the only way to cheat Pokémon without Nintendo noticing, is to, like, force Squirtle to be Charmander when you pick it up at Oak's lab. That way, it'll say, "Obtained at Lv 5 at Oak's Lab" which is what it would say if you played it regularly. And if they do that, dude, then like, what's the problem?"

There are other ways then changing that. You could use a code to reform where they were caught, and all that stuff. Cheated pokemon dont feel right. I would like to cheat to get a few pokemon, but it wouldnt be the same, although I might do it if I cant get them Cheating and trading may be doing a few people a favor, but it wont feel right. If youll excuse me, I am going to leave for alittle now, I will be back later.



For honest, I would like to see D/P online, heck, I would love for Emerald to be online. But there are alot of things that could go wrong, and it would take Game Freak a while to work out these bugs. *Pokes that new Pokemon game in Japan that can erase Game Data if a game other then a certain one is not inserted in the DS* Game Freak doesnt seem to keen on not catching glitches...

 

[Volteon]

For Two, how will we know what to trade for what? When someones standing a foot away from you, you can say "Ill Trade my Lugia for your Ho-oh.". How can you do this for someone across the world?

rabid latias, I think that you forgot about that screen that says: lugia will be traded with ho-oh it´s OK? and vice versa for the other person, if both press A the trade is done, if one person press B then the selection screen apears.

(I don´t know if this was already mentioned, because I`m lazy to read those big posts.

 

[Eszett]

Its possible that a report feature will be in the game. But still, people will be idiots no matter what. I am led to believe that WiFi can connect to a wireless router to use anywhere? I also believe that it leads off YOUR internet if you have it? Isnt it possible to download programs to change ISP addresses and return?

Large forums can readily handle repeated offenders and ban evaders. And you'd need to set up some sort of proxy server.

And once again, its also simple to shark it so it will change to whatever you want. If you look long enough, I can guarentee you will find a code. Its like when I used to like that Yu-gi-oh crap a few years back because it was popular. On one of the games I needed to find a cheat for a special card. I couldnt find it, but after looking around for a while, I finally found it and it worked.

I don't believe anybody has found a code that circumvents the examination of Pokemon by Colosseum/XD. Moreover, GameShark hasn't even made a DS incarnation of its cheating device yet. Heck, if that stays true we could simply implement the cheat filter on the D/P cards themselves.

Maybe it can, maybe it cant. It seems that working something out like that would take a while, and would probably push back the release date.

Not really...now as they refine their techniques from Mario Kart DS and Animal Crossing DS, they can surely create a system that would create a low-lag environment in due time.

For honest, I would like to see D/P online, heck, I would love for Emerald to be online. But there are alot of things that could go wrong, and it would take Game Freak a while to work out these bugs. *Pokes that new Pokemon game in Japan that can erase Game Data if a game other then a certain one is not inserted in the DS* Game Freak doesnt seem to keen on not catching glitches...

GAME FREAK has virtually hammered out every fallacy in their game since the days of R/B/Y.

Besides of which, GAME FREAK didn't even develop Mysterious Dungeon. ;[

 

[Zodiac]

I'm in your side but.. Online service too magnificent to be rejected. ^^;

Getting online will make it easier to communicate with other people, which makes it even more exciting. I wouldn't trade, but battling is enough for me. I guess no-one can cheat in a battle.

Still, nothing is formal yet.

 

[Jigpuff]

...Have you played Animal Crossing yet? You have to have someone's friend code to go to someone town. Why can't they just do that for trading in D/P? :\ (Although I wouldn't want it for battling...)

 

[chinchao]

Crud Eszett, BEAT ME AGAIN!!! *goes to corner and fake-cries*



--I'm gettin' tired of this.

"You should be able to tell if it's cheated. In your Trainer Memo, if it says Charmander was caught on Route 111, you know it's false. If your Butterfree knows Explosion, you DEFINATELY know it's false. That's how Nintendo checks to see if you have illegal Pokémon, and if you can read, you'll succeed"

You cant imagine what Gamesharks can do. I wouldnt be suprised if they could change your info around. Im pretty sure you can find ways to change your name, what route you found a certain pokemon, and whatnot if you look hard enough.

I can imagine what GSs can do. I have one. And an AR. For GBA. And I hunt for codes like the ones you only THINK exist. I, to this day, have not found one like that. But if you know of one, please, tell me via PM, I'll give you my E-mail Address, and you can send them to me. For proof.

"Like Nomytaker said, they'll probably use a board in the Union room where you are given a pop-up-list of your current Pokémon, and where you select one of them. You then are given a scroll-down lisgt to select what Pokémon or types you want in return. That CAN be, and if this procedure is done (99% chance), WILL be translated."

Problems can still occur. Turning off your DS during the middle of training could also cause problems, or Duplications of Pokemon like it did in earlier series, or just cause problems with BOTH people. Problems can occur in teh Union room as well, because most the time you could also verbally contact a person, as they were at most 10 feet away. You cant do this the same way on the DS. Im sure your parents dont mind if you talk to a friend standing 10 feet away, but keep in mind this game is pointed towards children, that most parents dont want there kid talking to a person half way across the country...

Dude, when did I EVER say it'll be voice chat!?!? I can almost guarantee you it won't. And as for the turning-off-your-DS-to-duplicate-Pokémon, that problem was deleted sometime after, oh, about... I dunno... R/B/Y's RELEASE?!

"It doesn't get laggish - your foe's choosing their move!
Plus, microwaves (the little things your phone company sends out to the satellites in space) travel FASTER than electric signals in your GBA/GBA SP/GBM/GBC/GB/DS.

But whatever dude. If you're saying this because your online experience with MKDS, ACWW, THAS, or other games online is poor, maybe you should switch to SouthWestern Bell or get a fatser Internet Connection"

It does get laggy. The games have to connect to eachother, then show the moves your doing. Very few times its not because there choosing there moves, its because it processes slowly. I admit, they could work on this, but Im pretty sure there would be loading things, which would cause the battle to go slowly.

Im not sure what ANY of those Online games your talking about, but we do have a fast internet connection. We dont have something slow or buggy like AOL, NetZero, or any of that crap. We have high-speed, cable-connected internet...

Dude I can see that. You're resisting my reasons at a very high speed. Got Firefox?

But dude, it doesn't get laggy. One game figures out the damages of one Pokémon, the other game does the other. Through link battles, this can't get any faster, with it having to share the results to both games and all, but with online, one central server can do it all, which will speed up the process. I can tell you how, if you want.



EDIT: Dude, things are getting TOO FAST here! I can't keep up!!!

 

[intergalactic platypus]

You won't have to use the online feature. Its not mandatory ya know

 

[chinchao]

Eszett! Beat me! Again! *goes to the opposite corner and real-cries*

Dude, intergalactic platypus, you bring up the most powerful comment here. Thanks.

I don't believe anybody has found a code that circumvents the examination of Pokemon by Colosseum/XD. Moreover, GameShark hasn't even made a DS incarnation of its cheating device yet. Heck, if that stays true we could simply implement the cheat filter on the D/P cards themselves.

Yeah, and update them each time you go online to ignore the cheats so they wouldn't hack your game.

Not really...now as they refine their techniques from Mario Kart DS and Animal Crossing DS, they can surely create a system that would create a low-lag environment in due time.

GAME FREAK has virtually hammered out every fallacy in their game since the days of R/B/Y.

Dude, you're right. And for proof, go look at NetBattle, Rabid_Latias.

"Once these members are figured out, they can always be banned from engaging in trades and battles. It's not too hard to figure out if a Pokemon was blatantly cheated, including some of the methods that Chinchao pointed out."

And once again, its also simple to shark it so it will change to whatever you want. If you look long enough, I can guarentee you will find a code. Its like when I used to like that Yu-gi-oh crap a few years back because it was popular. On one of the games I needed to find a cheat for a special card. I couldnt find it, but after looking around for a while, I finally found it and it worked.

And like I said, I haven't found one yet, and I've been looking and haven't given up.

"I'm not sure, but my point is that if a game which requires a constant thoroughput of data can maintain a continuous stream of play, surely a game whereby you only send one instruction per turn could be designed to work."

Maybe it can, maybe it cant. It seems that working something out like that would take a while, and would probably push back the release date.

Dude, they've been working on it for quite some time now. And it wouldn't take that long in the first place. Plus, how can it "push back the release date" if there is none?

"Dude, like, the only way to cheat Pokémon without Nintendo noticing, is to, like, force Squirtle to be Charmander when you pick it up at Oak's lab. That way, it'll say, "Obtained at Lv 5 at Oak's Lab" which is what it would say if you played it regularly. And if they do that, dude, then like, what's the problem?"

There are other ways then changing that. You could use a code to reform where they were caught, and all that stuff.

And dude, you'd see it on the memo.

 

[Wolf Goddess]

Gamesharks aren't gods. They can't let you do half of the things you people seem to think. You can't play as Mario, you can't catch a Black Mage, and you can't get around the filters. And if you can, chances are the Pokemon will be safe to use, so quite whining.