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Regarding Ash and Mega Evolution

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King Charizard

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Ash will get both Mega Sceptile and Mega Charizard Y and the haters won't be able to tolerate it.
 

Shiny pokemon lower

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No probably not , I have heard many pokemon fans dislike mega evolutions in general, so giving Ash two or more mega evolutiong would most probably be a BIG mistake. But they could allow Ash the use of mega evolutions briefly for different situations? (pokemon legaue, team flare if they show up or other tence situations)
 

Lorde

Banned
They're a huge part of Gen VI and will demand a lot of promotion

Which they've already received without Ash having one and they can still receive more promo in the future by having other trainers showcase them. I don't see why Ash must use Mega Evolutions for that purpose when they've already had great representation in the anime thus far. :x
 

nameman

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Which they've already received without Ash having one and they can still receive more promo in the future by having other trainers showcase them. I don't see why Ash must use Mega Evolutions for that purpose when they've already had great representation in the anime thus far. :x

Because he's the main character. It would be BS if he didn't get one.
 

Lorde

Banned
Because he's the main character. It would be BS if he didn't get one.

Yes, because him being the main character gives him first dibs on impressive accomplishments every single time without fail; remind me, how many official Leagues has he won?

Tbh, I find the hype surrounding Megas to be unbearable as it is; I don't want Ash to be as hyped as well.
 

nameman

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Yes, because him being the main character gives him first dibs on impressive accomplishments every single time without fail; remind me, how many official Leagues has he won?

This is a different situation. The League has been an exception to an otherwise expansive amount of accomplishments that we're both aware of. Ash does get love when the League isn't involved on most things (except BW).
 

Torpoleon

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If Tierno, Trevor & Shauna have their Kanto starters go Mega, I could kind of see Ash's Sceptile going Mega, which would even promote ORAS. I would love to see Ash's Charizard mega evolve though and battle Alain's Charizard. Maybe they'll let more than 1 of Ash's Pokémon mega evolve, but that he can only use one on his team at a time.
 

Almighty Zard

He has returned.
Yes, because him being the main character gives him first dibs on impressive accomplishments every single time without fail; remind me, how many official Leagues has he won?

Tbh, I find the hype surrounding Megas to be unbearable as it is; I don't want Ash to be as hyped as well.

He won't last long in the league this time if his opponents are packing mega's I mean with the amount of discussion put into Korrina's MegaLucario now, you think it'll get better as time goes on?

Even if his team develops to the point where they can take down a mega, it would still likely take half or most of the team to do it, and that will cost Ash.

They can't keep him as an underdog forever, I know people love to think that by facing mega's it keeps with the status quo, but unless he has one himself to counter them by the league, he will lose yet again, and I don't know how much longer people are going to tolerate watching a loser.

not to mention unlike legendary pokemon this is something Ash can obtain, if the writers don't let him take the chance, then he will never succeed.
 

Lord Trollbias

Y'all Salty Bishes
He will Mega Evolve Charizard
Will is a strong word. I think there is a high possibility of him Mega-Evolving Charizard but I won't say he will do it. The writers could chooses to shill Ash out of Mega-Evolving. Or he could Mega-Evolve Sceptile to promote ORAS, Mega-Evolve Heracross because why not, or they could have Gible fully evolve then Mega-Evolve if they wanted. And there is always the chance that some more Kalos Pokemon get Mega-forms.
 

GalladeRocks

Son of a Beach
Which they've already received without Ash having one and they can still receive more promo in the future by having other trainers showcase them. I don't see why Ash must use Mega Evolutions for that purpose when they've already had great representation in the anime thus far. :x

Yeah, it's true, they've already gotten a lot of promotion and likely still will continue to, but I don't think the large representation already present really lowers the chance of Ash getting a Mega at all. If anything, all the build-up could eventually lead to Ash being specifically trained for Mega Evolving. After all, he's already spent a lot of time around Korrina and Gurkinn, not to mention encountering Mega Blaziken. Furthermore, he is repeatedly in contact with Professor Sycamore, the specialist of Mega Evolution studies who started Alain on his path as a Mega Trainer. And on top of all that, Ash is exactly the type of person to commit himself to becoming a person worthy of Mega Evolution, someone who absolutely would not give up until his persistence finally gets him what he wants. Overall, I just think it is extraordinarily likely that we'll see Ash with at least one Mega Evolution. I think we'll definitely have seen Mega Charizard (my bet is on Y since Alain has X) by the end of the Kalos saga, and maybe Sceptile too depending on how much Hoenn-related stuff goes down later on. I also wouldn't completely write off Heracross, though I think it is far less likely to appear, at least in this saga.
 

thor94

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He won't last long in the league this time if his opponents are packing mega's I mean with the amount of discussion put into Korrina's MegaLucario now, you think it'll get better as time goes on?

Even if his team develops to the point where they can take down a mega, it would still likely take half or most of the team to do it, and that will cost Ash.

They can't keep him as an underdog forever, I know people love to think that by facing mega's it keeps with the status quo, but unless he has one himself to counter them by the league, he will lose yet again, and I don't know how much longer people are going to tolerate watching a loser.

not to mention unlike legendary pokemon this is something Ash can obtain, if the writers don't let him take the chance, then he will never succeed.
It's always happened. mainly every people hate trainer ash. To my knowledge, ash is probably one of the only main character in animation history portrayed as underdog loser with no canon accomplishment (OL and BF are filler) after so many episodes (maybe the only one for a show exceeding 100 episodes, ash is currently the biggest main character loser of the entire japanimation history).

time to the writers allowing ash shine (i'am boring of that loser kicked out by dumb/newb trainers and win battle by unreallistic DEM like OHKO a freaking fresh serperior with electric move or dansing on a meteor rain shots)
 

X Drake

I Am Groot
It's always happened. mainly every people hate trainer ash. To my knowledge, ash is probably one of the only main character in animation history portrayed as underdog loser with no canon accomplishment (OL and BF are filler) after so many episodes (maybe the only one for a show exceeding 100 episodes, ash is currently the biggest main character loser of the entire japanimation history).

time to the writers allowing ash shine (i'am boring of that loser kicked out by dumb/newb trainers and win battle by unreallistic DEM like OHKO a freaking fresh serperior with electric move or dansing on a meteor rain shots)
I'm assuming the bolded is about the Grant match?Because there was nothing DEM about that.He just applied his training onto an attack that was somewhat similar.Plus it wasn't dancing,he was using Iron Tail and jumping from one to another.

Also Ash was only kicked out by a dumb/new trainer once. Ritchie was more or less on his level(and it was Charizard's fault he lost,Harrison and Tyson were as good as trainers as Ash was,and Tobias was OP.
 

thor94

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I'm assuming the bolded is about the Grant match?Because there was nothing DEM about that.He just applied his training onto an attack that was somewhat similar.Plus it wasn't dancing,he was using Iron Tail and jumping from one to another.

It's same, he jump on a freaking meteor rain. the shots are impredictable and incredibly fast (it's meteor move, so it's close to supersonique), try to jump one multiple supersonique rocks. jumping on rock tomb can go, but jumping on the most power dragon move? no, i say bullsh*t. maybe a little chance after decades (yay decadeS, so 20years at least) of training, but a couple of days or on a whim in the battle, it's a NOOOOOOOOOOO.

So, see pokemon origin, everyone prefer to see someone who win when it's important, that someone lose all the time.
 

X Drake

I Am Groot
It's same, he jump on a freaking meteor rain. the shots are impredictable and incredibly fast (it's meteor move, so it's close to supersonique), try to jump one multiple supersonique rocks. jumping on rock tomb can go, but jumping on the most power dragon move? no, i say bullsh*t. maybe a little chance after decades (yay decadeS, so 20years at least) of training, but a couple of days or on a whim in the battle, it's a NOOOOOOOOOOO.

So, see pokemon origin, everyone prefer to see someone who win when it's important, that someone lose all the time.
It wasn't shown to move at supersonic speed was it?It'speed is pretty slow also when you see it fall down.If it was really moving at the speed of a real meteor that move would be ridiculously OP.And since Pikachu is extremely fast it could jump on it.

It also not a real meteor.It's a barrage of energy balls made to look like a meteor shot so your argument makes no sense whatsoever.

Another thing,you do realize that Draco Meteor isn't an extremely strong move in the anime .If it is used by a very strong pokemon,than sure it's quite strong but if used by the second gym leader of a region it won't be extremely strong.Plus just because it's very strong doesn't mean you can't use it to jump,the move was exploited by Ash to work to his advantage nothing wrong there.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
NO IT CAN'T HAPPEN. ASH DOESN'T HAVE THE MEGA RING, DOESN'T HAVE A MEGA STONE AND DOESN'T KNOW WHICH POKEMON HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEGA EVOLVE.

When Ash finds the stone, it isn't going to say: "I'm Heracrossite!", Ash is just going to say he found a shiny rock, but wouldn't have a clue that it has any relation to the Heracross-species at all.

All of this spells unlikely over the whole debacle, but hey.. PLOTz.

How about this:

Tierno, Shauna and Trevor showcase MC-Y, M-Saur and M-B'toise. Ash at some point near the end receives a packet, or simply finds a piece of Sceptilite. Serena gets Treecko as her Hoenn starter. Ash uses Mega Sceptile a few times against high-level opponents, such as the such and aforementioned and Alan. Before he leaves to go to another region, he gives Serena the Sceptilite for when the time comes that her Treecko has become a Sceptile.

In case they abandon the Mega Evolution mechanic in further generations, this would seem to work fine in my eyes.
 
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Lord Trollbias

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Not exactly happy with the idea of all 3 of the Kalos Trio getting Megas. It'd feel like they would be overdoing it at that point.
 

Locormus

Can we please get the older, old forum back?
Not exactly happy with the idea of all 3 of the Kalos Trio getting Megas. It'd feel like they would be overdoing it at that point.

I'd too, but at least give them the starter with the stones as in the games.. Not all of them need to reach their final stages. I could see Trevor not fully evolving his Charmander for example.. What if Shauna doesn't get involved in the League business? We wouldn't have all three of their Mega's centered at one place, which would be the best outcome.
 

GalladeRocks

Son of a Beach
NO IT CAN'T HAPPEN. ASH DOESN'T HAVE THE MEGA RING, DOESN'T HAVE A MEGA STONE AND DOESN'T KNOW WHICH POKEMON HAVE THE ABILITY TO MEGA EVOLVE.

When Ash finds the stone, it isn't going to say: "I'm Heracrossite!", Ash is just going to say he found a shiny rock, but wouldn't have a clue that it has any relation to the Heracross-species at all.

All of this spells unlikely over the whole debacle, but hey.. PLOTz.

How about this:

Tierno, Shauna and Trevor showcase MC-Y, M-Saur and M-B'toise. Ash at some point near the end receives a packet, or simply finds a piece of Sceptilite. Serena gets Treecko as her Hoenn starter. Ash uses Mega Sceptile a few times against high-level opponents, such as the such and aforementioned and Alan. Before he leaves to go to another region, he gives Serena the Sceptilite for when the time comes that her Treecko has become a Sceptile.

In case they abandon the Mega Evolution mechanic in further generations, this would seem to work fine in my eyes.

There's nothing to say that Ash can't get a Mega Ring in the future, nor that there will be no way of being able to identify Mega Stones. When Ash has direct connections with Professor Sycamore and Gurkinn, it seems it would be simple for him to eventually receive a Mega Ring from one of them, as well as having them able to identify Mega Stones for him. And just out of curiosity, why would you think they'd ever abandon Mega Evolution in future games? I don't see why that would ever be dropped.
 

DotKU

Champion
I'd too, but at least give them the starter with the stones as in the games.. Not all of them need to reach their final stages. I could see Trevor not fully evolving his Charmander for example.. What if Shauna doesn't get involved in the League business? We wouldn't have all three of their Mega's centered at one place, which would be the best outcome.

I think it would be VERY disappointing if the Kalos trio get Megas and Ash doesn't, which could happen since they like to portray Ash as the underdog
 
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