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Regarding our selection process

Discussion in 'POTW Collaboration' started by Serebii, Jan 30, 2011.

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  1. Sparkbeat

    Sparkbeat FLASH! AAAHHHAAA!

    No, people would still pick those Pokemon lol. It'd be Pokemon that no one remembers like at all, such as I dunno Claydol?
     
  2. To be perfectly honest, we could probably have votes on certain Pokemon and still have more than enough to go through. There's probably somewhere around 300+ Pokemon that are either good or at least viable in one of Ubers, OU, UU, RU, and NU, which would give us about 6 years worth of material. However, the advantage of the RNG is that it is impartial, eliminating any hurt feelings about someone's pick not being chosen or something. It also shakes things up since every once in a while, it's kinda fun to get a PU Pokemon and try to come up with sets for it that actually work.

    So yeah, I do think voting would actually be possible as far as raw numbers go, but it's probably best to stick with the RNG.
     
  3. Sparkbeat

    Sparkbeat FLASH! AAAHHHAAA!

    Plus voting would mean even more work for Miror and we don't want our bby getting overworked (Now go close some RMT's and approve clans for us you sexy little ~~~)
     
  4. jireh the provider

    jireh the provider Video Game Designer

    I think I can understand the vale of the Random Number Generator in terms of picking ever pokemon of the week.

    But as far as the chosen pokemon go from the very start of Black and white, I can't recall which tier had the most pokemon. My guess is that either Ubers (movie release rerasons), OU, and NU get the most pokemon presented on this generation's POTW. All I'm hoping is that before October 12, we will have an equal amount of pokemon from every tier (Can't sat much from little cup since we already start fusing them with their evolutions, with a couple misses. Like, where's Gligar? or Togetic?). Hopefully.
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2013
  5. Lucario At Service

    Lucario At Service Calm Trainer

    With the 5th gen competitive game-play coming to its near end in about a months time and the start of the new 6th Gen. I feel like there should atleast be another Week Special covering each Gens Starters in the 5th gen competitive game-play scenario.

    Out of the 15 Starters, only 5 have been covered so far with the 5th gen perspective (the Unova Starters, Venusaur & Chrizard). This leaves us with 10 other to cover.

    I feel that there is a need to cover all the Starters (as well as update the other 5 articles), as these Starter pokemons are special and should deserve more focus especially at the end of each Gen.

    I think it would be much easier to do a type based Starters Week Special covering all the 3 types Starters in the span of 3 weeks.
     
  6. Serebii

    Serebii And, as if by magic, the webmaster appeared... Staff Member Admin

    Unfortunately, we're going to be too busy for this, but we'll likely do something similar in Gen VI.

    For the record, assuming we have enough data by then, we'll be beginning our Gen VI Pokémon of the Week in November
     
  7. Togeyosh

    Togeyosh New Member

    Um... Uh... I really don't know where else I can go to ask this. With regards to today's POTW on Togekiss... I was wondering why there wasn't a pre-evo corner for Togetic? Even since I saw Chansey's pre-evo corner, I was really looking forward to seeing what there would be to say about Togetic.

    But there's nothing there! I don't understand... Togetic can use the eviolite quite well, can't it? Why didn't he get a mention? I waited so patiently for this moment, and I somehow feel that I got... I don't know how else to put it. Ripped off? I don't think I'll be satisfied until I learn why there isn't a pre-evo corner today. I'd just like to know is all.
     
  8. jolteonjak

    jolteonjak *swoons for Noland*

    Wouldn't it make sense to start Gen VI POTW when all Egg Moves are found?
     
  9. cloudynamite

    cloudynamite Active Member

    im sorry but this random selection is a bit too much.
    pokemon of the week this week is Macargo? AGAIN??
    at least try to bring up pokemon that have been updated, or pokemon that werent in 5th gens pokemon of the week. its bore some to see the same pokemon.
    keep it random then but exclude the pokemon from last gen of the week unless theyve been updated. comon please.
     
  10. Satoshi Masaki

    Satoshi Masaki Veteran Trainer

    No one might see this NOW (as of 2014) but, as a suggestion, we should do a pokemon every week, from one generation. By this, I'm saying we should have say, Arcanine, Garydos, Charizrd, and Zapdos. BOOM! An entire month is covered. Do you see what I mean?
     
  11. Nutter t.KK

    Nutter t.KK can Mega Evolve!

    Random Number Generator more than likely will pull up repeats. We had ~250 Fully evolved Pokémon available in Gen 5, which should last just under 5 years. We had about 136 weeks to get as many as we could, we had just over half of them done (54% based on my estimates). It was a Matter of time before we pulled up a Repeat, especially when there are only 30 new FE Pokémon.

    Many Pokémon got one or two changes, but alot changes happened to the meta game as a whole. After a month in to the New Generation, Serebii can't decide to add or remove Pokémon based purely on the Movesets, at that time the metagame as a whole was just starting to settle.
    Serebii uses a Random Number Generator to pick and choose, the next Pokémon of the week is only known when he posts it. When I was staff, I only knew about it after Serebii posted it in this forum. He does have theme weeks, (Electric Rodent week and Eeveelution week) and has keep a few Pokémon out of the Normal running for "Special Occasions."
     
  12. What does the Dephox say?

    What does the Dephox say? Ring-ding-ding-di...

    We usually have 3 or so months planned out in advance. The Pokemon are picked randomly but changed freely. For example if we get Persian and I want to do Tentacruel instead, well we're doing Tentacruel now.

    Also if possible I avoid theme weeks. The energy required for those things is ridiculous. In Electric Rat Week I just copy / pasted each entry and edited them slightly. It still took like 2 hours per day. Never again!
     
  13. DasManiac

    DasManiac Well-Known Member

    Since you guys only do fully evolved Pokemon, it's going to take a long time to cover all 435. By long I mean it will actually over 8 years at the current pace. By that time, The Pokemon series may have ended. The only way to do it in just over a year is daily.
     
  14. So I can't help but wonder why people think that all of the Pokemon need to be covered? If we were trying to write full competitive analyses for every Pokemon as a competitive reference, we might have a need to cover everything, but that's not the case. The POTW articles are mostly for entertainment purposes and to give Serebii users a little something to look forward to every weekend. While they may offer good competitive insight at the time of writing, they are not updated regularly as metagames change and thus can become outdated over time, so Smogon's database is still the best place to go for competitive advice.
     
  15. Supersonicbro

    Supersonicbro Well-Known Member

    So idk where to mention this but once again, what's with the delphox hate? This is like the 3rd or 4th time delphox is mentioned in another potw but in a negative way. Idk if it's a running joke or something but it's kinda old and unnecessary. What does delphox have to do with floatzel?
     
  16. venom1950

    venom1950 Ace Trainer

    You can say that again. I just wrote the same thing in my Pinsir review.

    It's an old,boring and unfunny joke.
    They really need to stop with this.
     
  17. dragontamer44722

    dragontamer44722 Pokegyms Owner

    I don't mind the selection method. Yes it is irritating when Pokémon that have been done before come up again, but what can you do? The random pick is, I'm sure, to avoid bias picks, so I live with it. the one thing that I think could be changed is to occasionally purposefully pick a pokemon that hasn't been done in a long time, such as the legendary birds and dogs, among others. That would satisfy the hungry masses who keep pressuring you to do new Pokémon.
     
  18. joe_alker

    joe_alker Active Member

    I would like to point out that Furret has not been featured, I have looked just now as far as gen IV and no sign of it. Mainly because I am raising one in SoulSilver atm, but it surely must have some competitive use. Considering the commonness of Sentrets (I think they appear in X/Y, not sure), and so most people are likely to have one, surely it needs looking at? There are also definitely some more Pokemon that need looking at, but Furret stands out to me as one that needs a PotW. Urgently.
     
  19. Nutter t.KK

    Nutter t.KK can Mega Evolve!

    The selection Process in 5th gen and 6th Gen, it almost totally picked at random. Some Pokémon Starters, ledgendaries and a selection of special Pokémon are not on the random list. Furret was actually picked up during 3rd gen: http://serebii.net/potw/162.shtml (While it's not linked anyware on the site, you just need to know where to look or use the search option.

    According to Smogon.. Furret is NeverUsed regular and I don't see it changing.. Personally I think it could be time consuming when using "competitive" Pokémon to complete against most NPCS.
     
  20. Furret is a cool little Pokemon, but it's sadly terrible competitively. All Furret's POTW would be is another "This thing is bad, but here's what to do with it if you have to use it" sort of article. It's probably better that the RNG doesn't pick Pokemon like that so that we can get more usable Pokemon for articles that will offer a more positive analysis.
     
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