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Regional Variants/Alolan Forms Discussion Thread
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Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
I've warmed to it a little thanks to some of the non-joke fanart I've seen floating around, but I can't say I love it. It's head is just way too big. I'd like it more if its head was smaller or if it was chunkier or something.
Like in one fanart I saw, the artist made Alolan Persian resemble an actual Persian cat, and it looked really, really nice.
It's bad, but it's not that bad, y'know? It's still better than stuff like Alolan Raticate or Grimer.
Oni Dekopin
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Sheyenne Thunderstorm
Thunder Trainer
I just asking since me and one of my friend got into it about Persian Alolan form. It feel like my opinion was wrong and I was wrong for liking it. I believe most people hate it because it isn't what they're hoping for; myself incurred. However, I didn't hate it, but it wasn't what I was hoping for.
I know people going have different opinions. But I don't think it is as bad people make it to be.
Orphalesion
Well-Known Member
Everybody is free to their opinion and honestly I don't think a pokemon's appearance is something that's worth arguing over. You like Alolan Persian? Good for you, you have another pokemon you like, and liking things is more fun than disliking them.
However to others, like me, it IS as bad as we make it out to be. And I must say I never even had any hopes for it. I already don't like Persian and didn't like Alolan Meowth, so Alolan Persian had little chance to appeal to me, same with Diglett and Dugtrio.
In the end Pokemon allows us all to choose what characters we want to play with.
However I am looking forward to the episode where Team Rocket's plans involve them painting Meowth purple so that he can pose for an Alolan one. That will be the first episode I'll watch in years.
Golden_Latias
#SlayQueenSlay
Yeah, from what I saw, a lot of people were hoping for a panther. Which would have made no sense and wouldn't fit with the whole "selective cat breeding" lore with Alolan Meowth.
Alolan Persian may not have the best design in the world, but at least the direction they went in makes sense.
Bus
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As goofy as I think it looks, I may end up using it solely because it looks like a cross between Heathcliff and Fat Cat from Rescue Rangers. If not for the black stripes, he'd actually look really close to Alola Persian lol; here look!
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Orphalesion
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Zoruagible
Lover of underrated characters
His face looks more like Garfield's to me.
The face is why I don't like Alolan Persian. It looks stupid
The face is why I don't like Alolan Persian. It looks stupid
mapachatumbili
Pokenerd
I like Alolan Persian. Not as much as Raichu, Sandslash, or Ninetales, but I do like Persian. Especially the fact that it can potentionally run a physical Technician set better then Kanto Persian, due to having the Dark Stab and coverage which IMO works better for the Alolan variant.
For example, Aerial Ace is a good coverage move for Persian, but its kinda wasted on the Kanto variant due to already having access to Play Rough. The Alolan variant however can make better use of Aerial Ace due to being weak to bug, so Aerial Ace takes care of two natural weaknesses. I let my Kanto Persian run a special set with Nasty Plot, and now I can use a physical set for Alolan Persian. I get to have my cake and eat it too. A win-win situation.
For example, Aerial Ace is a good coverage move for Persian, but its kinda wasted on the Kanto variant due to already having access to Play Rough. The Alolan variant however can make better use of Aerial Ace due to being weak to bug, so Aerial Ace takes care of two natural weaknesses. I let my Kanto Persian run a special set with Nasty Plot, and now I can use a physical set for Alolan Persian. I get to have my cake and eat it too. A win-win situation.
Captain Jigglypuff
*On Vacation. Go Away!*
Alolan Persian has a certain charm to it. I don't think it looks too off.
lemoncatpower
Cynical Optimist
idk why but I see it being special attack oriented. Something about being spoiled and big-headed makes me think it won't be fast or have brute force.
Sheyenne Thunderstorm
Thunder Trainer
Well to be honest. Well this is my opinion. It doesn't look bad with the cartoony big head. However, I know why people hate it and want to dislike. But I don't see it no different then Dugtrio Grimer, and Muk. As well with pokemon like ball with eyes and so on.
But I just hope that isn't all of the Alolan forms
mapachatumbili
Pokenerd
One interesting thing that I noticed about Persian which I didn't get till later is that Kanto Persian has a red gem in its forehead while Alolan Persian has a blue one.
IMO, I feel that part of the problem with Alolan Persian based on preliminary perception to the audiences is that the transition is so off. Alolan Meowth has that design that says "Look at me, I'm awesome, and I'm going to rip you apart! I know it, you know it, everyone knows it!" This is exactly what the depiction for Kanto Persian is, not just in character design, but dex entry as well. Kanto Persian is elegant and graceful, yet it hides a violent streak that will not hesitate to destroy you should you forget to "know your place".
Kanto Meowth meanwhile, while it could still do some damage, comes off IMO as more relaxed and laid back, not willing to fight unless neccesary, instead prefering to search for coins and other shiny objects. When I look at Alolan Persian, I feel like the transition here is a lot more natural. Alolan Persian looks like the final product of Kanto Meowth, while Alolan Meowth looks like it will evolve into Kanto Persian.
And its only with this family that I get this vibe.
IMO, I feel that part of the problem with Alolan Persian based on preliminary perception to the audiences is that the transition is so off. Alolan Meowth has that design that says "Look at me, I'm awesome, and I'm going to rip you apart! I know it, you know it, everyone knows it!" This is exactly what the depiction for Kanto Persian is, not just in character design, but dex entry as well. Kanto Persian is elegant and graceful, yet it hides a violent streak that will not hesitate to destroy you should you forget to "know your place".
Kanto Meowth meanwhile, while it could still do some damage, comes off IMO as more relaxed and laid back, not willing to fight unless neccesary, instead prefering to search for coins and other shiny objects. When I look at Alolan Persian, I feel like the transition here is a lot more natural. Alolan Persian looks like the final product of Kanto Meowth, while Alolan Meowth looks like it will evolve into Kanto Persian.
And its only with this family that I get this vibe.
We still don't know Alolan Persian's behavior yet friend. Being a Dark-type (I assume), it could be more viscous than Kanto Persian.
mapachatumbili
Pokenerd
True, but I meant in character design. First impressions are important, yes? When you look at Rowlet 3, you see an Archer. Take a look at Hariyama, and sumo is obvious. Machoke is a bodybuilder. Alolan Persian may indeed be more ruthless, but it doesn't look like it. When I look at Alolan Persian, I see "lazy, laid back, relaxed". I don't see the smugness that Alolan Meowth was full of that Kanto Persian has traces of. Its almost ironic.
You have to remember that Dark does not mean "evil" or "vicious", just more moves that might be considered "cheap".
You have to remember that Dark does not mean "evil" or "vicious", just more moves that might be considered "cheap".
You are correct, however, if they revealed Alolan Persian first, without revealing Alolan Meowth or giving details about Alolan Meowth, you probably wouldn't think that it was lazy and laid back. I think that impression or inference comes from it being the evolution of Alolan Meowth, who is lazy and laid back.
Also, Persian is already a viscous Pokemon, and it's not a Dark-type (Though it learns a good number of Dark-type moves), so I'm assuming that because Alolan Persian is most likely a Dark-type, it will be more viscous than it's Kanto counterpart. Mightyena is a pretty viscous Pokemon as well. Also, if I'm correct, Purrloin have been known to steal items. Stealing could classify one as "evil" or "villainous". The Dark-type meaning "Evil-type" doesn't work for all, but that just means that it does for some. Albeit, Alolan Persian could just be Dark-type in it's arrogance (If it even is arrogant).
mapachatumbili
Pokenerd
I agree with you completely. All that I'm saying is that that might be why Alolan Persian put a lot of people off when it was revealed both leaked and officially (I wasn't one of them. I was fine with the design). Perhaps some people wanted something that looked more like Alolan Meowth, but as a Persian. I can't really say, I'm just hypothesizing. All I can say is the impression that I get when I look at them all.
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