Return Power

[Droglas]

I'm having trouble with return. I dont know if I should teach it to my future slaking instead of hyper beam... Can anybody tell me if return is powerfull than hyper beam? Wats returns power?

 

[WhiteWizard42]

return is weaker than hyper beam, but more accurate. it's power is 102 when your pokemon is as happy as can be, and its accuracy is 100.

even though it's weaker, it's usually better in competitive battles because it lets you attack, then switch out. with hyper beam, you're stuck in play, recharging, while your opponent gets a free hit on you.

 

[Nightcat]

Yeah, basically, never use hyper beam.

Slaking@choice band
adamant nature
- return
- shadow ball
- rock slide
- aerial ace?

Is a set for it...

~nightcat ;197;

 

[WhiteWizard42]

Yeah, basically, never use hyper beam.

Slaking@choice band
adamant nature
- return
- shadow ball
- Earthquake
- Focus Puch
Is a set for it...

~nightcat ;197;

RS's power when super-effective: 150
AA's power when SE: 120
Return's power with STAB: 153

don't use 'em. use the corrected set i just posted.

 

[Volteon]

what? No earthquake...? JUST use aerial ace in case of STAB, and yes, Return´s or Frustation´s biggest power is 102.

Never use 2 turn atacks, those are:
Fly
Hyper beam
Head... something
Blast burn
Frenzy plant
Hydrocannon
Sky atack
Solarbeam (just use solarbeam if there´s sun)
Dive
Dig
etc...
Just use them in case of stalling (But even I don´t recomend)

 

[WhiteWizard42]

Head... something

you're thinking of Skull Bash.

also, bounce and razor wind.

 

[Spartan 37]

Well, doesn't Slaking lose every other turn anyway?

 

[Greek Saw]

Don't teach Return at all.

 

[obada]

Return or hyper beam.
Volteon was right but slaking recharges at the turn that its loafing around.
By the way, they are both stabed for slaking.

 

[Spartan 37]

Exactly. Hyper Beam is the perfect move for Slaking.

 

[obada]

I prefer return because it has more pp and its also stabed and with 100% accuracy.

 

[Spartan 37]

I prefer return because it has more pp and its also stabed and with 100% accuracy.

I guess. But Hyper Beam has more sweeping potential in my opinion, what with 225 power and all.

 

[WhiteWizard42]

slaking used return!
(pokemon) fainted!
(opposing trainer) sent out zapdos!
(you) switched out slaking, sent in snorlax!
zapdos used thunderbolt (15% damage)



slaking used hyper beam!
(pokemon) fainted!
(opposing trainer) sent out zapdos!
slaking must recharge!
zapdos used thunderbolt!
slaking fainted!

 

[Spartan 37]

slaking used return!
(pokemon) fainted!
(opposing trainer) sent out zapdos!
(you) switched out slaking, sent in snorlax!
zapdos used thunderbolt (15% damage)



slaking used hyper beam!
(pokemon) fainted!
(opposing trainer) sent out zapdos!
slaking must recharge!
zapdos used thunderbolt!
slaking fainted!

pessimist......

 

[tigerballs07]

lol what is a pessimist?

 

[Char1016]

Stay on topic people.


Return is better than Hyper Beam if you're a good trainer and care for your pokemon, make them happy.

As much as your pokemon loves you, Ruturn's power raises. So, I prefer Return over Hyper Beam if you care for your pokemon good.

If you can't take good care of them, learn him Hyper Beam, low PP and low Accuary but powerful move, Hyper Beam takes 1 turn to re-charge, and that 1 turn for Slaking is with every attack, since he has the ability Truant. So, Hyper Beam for the second part. But you can't switch, remember this.

Now, choose what you want.

I think Return's better.

 

[Spartan 37]

Stay on topic people.


Return is better than Hyper Beam if you're a good trainer and care for your pokemon, make them happy.

As much as your pokemon loves you, Ruturn's power raises. So, I prefer Return over Hyper Beam if you care for your pokemon good.

If you can't take good care of them, learn him Hyper Beam, low PP and low Accuary but powerful move, Hyper Beam takes 1 turn to re-charge, and that 1 turn for Slaking is with every attack, since he has the ability Truant. So, Hyper Beam for the second part. But you can't switch, remember this.

Now, choose what you want.

I think Return's better.

Yes, but there is a limit to the power of your "friendship". I believe someone stated its max power was 102 or something along those lines. In Slakings case, Hyper Beam is better (IMO at least).

 

[Droglas]

But Slaiking doesn't needs to recharge Hyper Beam. Does it? Cuz its the loafing around turn.

 

[WhiteWizard42]

recharging takes the turn that would otherwise be loafing, yes, but you can switch out on loafing turns. hyper beams recharge keeps you from switching, which is why return is the standard in competitive battling.

slaking's special defense is below average. so if you KO something with hyper beam, and the opponent sends out a special sweeper, slaking is screwed.

 

[Kev Chi]

I like return better then hyper beam. You got more PP on it and bit better acc. The 10% different in acc. could mean the different between winning and losing. I don't know if you have to recharge too if you miss.