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All of Ash's battles (EXCEPT Greninja and Charizard) XDD
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Ridiculous battles
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Lord Trollbias
Y'all Salty Bishes
That is complete ********. Literally at the time of that Gym Battle Swellow was arguably Ash's most durable Pokemon from the Hoenn team being able to take punishment for days. Literally as a Taillow Ash had to catch it to stop it from serious self-harm due to its inability to know when to submit in the face of Pikachu's Thunder. Yes Thunder Armor itself is unfeasible (ofc it could just be a weird manifestation of Guts) but Swellow defo has the pedigree to withstand the amount of punishment it took during that battle.
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WaterShuriken
"I..I..Iron Tail, Pikachu."
Ash vs Tate & Liza : Thunder Armor
Brock vs May : Marshtomp had that one.
Saliva vs Jessie : Forced win for the CotD.
Iris vs Stephan : Attract spam and Static.
Iris vs Luke : 1 episode use Outrage.
Brock vs May : Marshtomp had that one.
Saliva vs Jessie : Forced win for the CotD.
Iris vs Stephan : Attract spam and Static.
Iris vs Luke : 1 episode use Outrage.
Wednesdayz
Meowth fanatic
Forced? How so? Jessie was an inconsistent mess in DP, so her losing wasn't hard to believe.
Tsukuyomi56
Emblian Royalty
1. Charizard vs Dusclops: Ash should have known by now Ghost-types are immune to Fighting-types moves.
2. Pikachu vs Snivy: Even if Zekrom disabled Pikachu's Electric moves it should have being able to take down a Snivy with hardly any battle experience.
3. Pikachu & Swellow vs Solrock & Lunatone: Thunder Armour
4. Pikachu vs Excadrill: The idiotic choice to use Thunderbolt on a Ground/Steel type sets the tone here.
2. Pikachu vs Snivy: Even if Zekrom disabled Pikachu's Electric moves it should have being able to take down a Snivy with hardly any battle experience.
3. Pikachu & Swellow vs Solrock & Lunatone: Thunder Armour
4. Pikachu vs Excadrill: The idiotic choice to use Thunderbolt on a Ground/Steel type sets the tone here.
U.N. Owen
In Brightest Day, In Blackest Night ...
Had someone say it was guts, then no one would have bat an eyelash.
Cetra
Ash got 26 years, Liko won't, recency bias fanboys
Charizard X VS Ash-Greninja but not because of the result of it but the execution. A battle that is built up that much cannot just look in the end like Gary's Magmar VS Ash's Heracross. People really think it was "close" but except that both lost 5 Pokémon we do not even know in the slightest how close the match between both Pokémon was and that is heavily supported by that weird stumbling that does not even seem to be serious.
Other than that, Magmar VS Heracross, the Swellow battle and some others that were already mentioned.
Other than that, Magmar VS Heracross, the Swellow battle and some others that were already mentioned.
Frozocrone
Miraculous!
Actually I've thought of another two that come to mind.
Elesa and Ash(Attract battles, forgetting Emolga is a Flying type, only bringing Palpitoad).
Also Stephan vs Ash. Especially since Cilan states that Zebstrika has a variety of moves to deal with Water and Ground types, mainly being a moveset of Double Edge, Stomp, Facade and Giga Impact. Four normal moves? Where is the STAB attack?! What happens if he faces off against Rock/Steel type, or worse a Ghost type? He's screwed! What a completely redundant moveset.
Elesa and Ash(Attract battles, forgetting Emolga is a Flying type, only bringing Palpitoad).
Also Stephan vs Ash. Especially since Cilan states that Zebstrika has a variety of moves to deal with Water and Ground types, mainly being a moveset of Double Edge, Stomp, Facade and Giga Impact. Four normal moves? Where is the STAB attack?! What happens if he faces off against Rock/Steel type, or worse a Ghost type? He's screwed! What a completely redundant moveset.
345ash-greninja
Auto-Memories Doll
Undoubtedly Mega Charizard-X vs Ash-Greninja. Unbelievable that MC-X won. MC-X clearly took more damage getting beaten up more, and the giant orange shuriken clearly pierced through Blast Burn and struck MC-X. Even after MC-X won and Ash-Greninja lost. Simply defies logic!
WaterShuriken
"I..I..Iron Tail, Pikachu."
She was winning against the princess until Dawn pulled the "YOU CAN DO IT" speech, so she beat Jessie but still ended up giving her the ribbon when Saliva could have lost the match but still found the joy of participating in the contest.
Well, if you remember following battle of Bulba vs Dusclops and how many times Leech Seed had to acivate, it means that Charizard took less than 50% of Dusclops hp. So he was doomed to lose either way, with Seismic toss or not
Mega Char is no less powerful than Cyntha`s garchomp (took down 9 megas and then elite pokemon in row), so it makes sense that he has tons of hp. Greninja simply was not powerful enough to tangle with opponent of such level. Even if their attacks were roughly on the same power level, their staminas clearly are not
That. Mega Char even did not look especially tired at the end, he might have uquite a lot hp left. And I strongly suspect that if he was fiorst pokemon to go vs Ash`team, final score would be not 5-6 but 6-0 or 6-1 at best
Nerdy McNerdface
Hmph
Ash vs Tate & Liza, we all know why
Alan vs Daigo, not for how the battle was turning out, but the fact that they had a chance to show Alan wasn't all strength by him getting manhandled by a thing with a weakness to it, but instead Lysandre sticks his face in and the battle was ruined. I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Alan vs Daigo, not for how the battle was turning out, but the fact that they had a chance to show Alan wasn't all strength by him getting manhandled by a thing with a weakness to it, but instead Lysandre sticks his face in and the battle was ruined. I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way.
Genaller
Silver Soul
Based on portrayal in the TF finale, MG and MM are at roughly the same lvl. While the beating 10 Megas in a row shows that MC X has a high threshold for fatigue, the same can't be said for health as Alain likely healed MC X multiple times during that run. My personal opinion is that Ash-Greninja + another full health tier 1 could take MC X or 3 full health tier 1s barring Ash-Greninja would do the trick. Had Alain started with MC X, Ash would have likely lost 6-3/6-4 with his XY team. His best team on the other hand could take Alain 3-6/4-6.
Of course MC did heal at least a couple of times. Otherwise this challenge would be impossible task, even for champion level pokemon (remember that his opponents were quite tough, even the very first - Venusaur - did not go down easily and poisoned him). Imho to deal with MC Ash would need synchro-Greninja, BW-level Charizard and one more strong pokemon (like Pikachu or Snorlax), no less (and then, with strongest team, final score could be 3-6, yes). Such pokemons as the rest of his Kalos team would be just dead garbage waiting to be oneshotted
PokemonBattleFanatic-
Hardcore Paul Fan
Swellow 's determination is as strong as Ash's bond with Pikachu.
345ash-greninja
Auto-Memories Doll
You're wrong, MC-X was nearly falling down after getting hit by the giant orange shuriken so the battle was neck-tight. Ash vs Alain was a very close battle which Ash should've won. There was no logic for MC-X to remain standing after getting hit by than giant orange shuriken which overpowered a move like Blast Burn, but the writers made it barely remaining standing which defied logic for their love for the status quo. Remember, MC-X got KO-d by Siebold's Mega Blastoise's Dragon Pulse.
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Cetra
Ash got 26 years, Liko won't, recency bias fanboys
No. There was really not anything about Charizard's stumbling that indicated "Oh my, was that close". That was a very weak stumbling, almost looking just like him stomping. It did not look like him having a hard time to hold himself on his own feet at all. And that is the problem. Charizard did not look exhausted and he did not seem damaged. He had a few "fake moments" like that weak stumbling and that was not unequivocal to determine and that is bad execution.
345ash-greninja
Auto-Memories Doll
The stumbling never looked like stomping. It was clearly falling down before somehow managing to remain standing. Otherwise the stumbling would've never been shown.
Cetra
Ash got 26 years, Liko won't, recency bias fanboys
Except it did. Rewatch the scene. He barely fell over at all. That was one sudden forward movement with his leg making a loud sound to hold himself up. And it did not even look close to being a struggle for him. As a matter of fact he looked top fit after that. Yes, he even looked more like he struggle during the battle itself and even that did not affect him much. And you seem to not read properly what people write because no one said he did not "fall over" at all, just that it was some fake stumbling that he had no problem with. Your reasoning for why it was shown is quite flawed. It was supposed to show that he was affected by it. But it was not clearly shown how much.
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