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Hypnosis

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This is my team for Wi-Fi, I also posted this at Smogon. I need help with this team, it's too defensive for my liking. I probably need more offence.

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Metagross @ Life Orb
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 138 Atk / 16 Def / 104 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
- Earthquake
- Meteor Mash
- ThunderPunch
- Agility

My lead, hits Weavile leads hard. T-Punch for Milo, Suicune and the others. More Ev's in Defence and HP to take Weavile's hits better.

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 46 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Seismic Toss
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy

So boring, but she's good and she is my special wall. I put Aroma here because Alakazam hates random T-Waves. But maybe I use Sing > Aroma.

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Gliscor @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -Satk)
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
- Roost
- Stealth Rock

My physical wall, kills Heracross, bla bla..

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Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Wish
- Protect

I love this thing, and it works well with Gliscor. Wish-support, and Wish + Protect for instant recovery.

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Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 228 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Sleep Powder
- Power Whip
- Stun Spore
- Leech Seed

My Gyra counter, puts things to sleep, and hit them hard with Power Whip. Stun Spore to paralyze, because my team is rather slow.

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Alakazam @ Choice Specs
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Psychic
- Shadow Ball
- Trick
- Focus Blast

My special sweeper, it hits very hard thanks to Choice Specs. Trick for Bliss and the others.
 

TogeticTheRuler

Well-Known Member
I think you should replace either Tangrowth or Vaporeon with a hard hitter, maybe Mesprit.
Mesprit is also a Gyara counter, it is a bit slow however it is defensive and offensive , can bolt beam with Calm mind, and counters infernape.
Im leaning towards Vaporeon more than Tangrowth to replace with a sweeper.
 

Hypnosis

Well-Known Member
I thought about Mesprit, but to catch one is such a pain. Mesprit also gives my team another Dark / Ghost / Bug weakness, which I hate. :( I think I replace Vap or Tangrowth. But without Vap I have no Wish support, and without Tangrowth Gyarados rapes my whole team.
 
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Hypnosis

Well-Known Member
Bump.. :( I think I replace Vaporeon with Gyarados, I probably lead with it.
I use this set:

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spd
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt
- Ice Fang
- Earthquake / Stone Edge

I don't know about the attack moves, Ice Fang to hit the dragons, and I don't know if it's better to choose EQ or SE. What's better?
 

Hayabusa

Bona fide Narutard.
Well, there isn't much to rate here, except that Gyarados needs Waterfall. If you want Taunt, that leaves you with Earthquake/Ice Fang/Stone Edge as your last move of choice.

Choosing between those 3 depends predominately on what your team is weak against. Earthquake for electrics, Ice Fang for dragons... you get the point.

Your Tangrowth adds a lot of double weaknesses to the team. Bug is good against both Alakazam/Tangrowth, ice for Gliscor/Tangrowth, fire for Metagross/Tangrowth... etc. I would recommend taking it out and replacing it with something else that can use status, simply because of its bad typing on this team.
 

Hypnosis

Well-Known Member
Tangrowth does give me a lot of the same weaknesses, but it's the only thing that can counter Gyarados. Gotta use Stone Edge on my Gyara then. I think about replacing Tangrowth with something.
 

Hayabusa

Bona fide Narutard.
I'm not so sure that Tangrowth is an effective Gyarados counter. If it's powered up and it has Ice Fang, then kiss Tangrowth goodbye. If Gyarados switches in on you, Intimidate would also lower the chance that you'd kill it with Power Whip. After this, you'd be depending on Stun Spore/Sleep Powder while you attack.

I'd consider Weezing a better Gyarados counter. That good ol' gas bag...
 

Hypnosis

Well-Known Member
A DDed Ice Fang 3HKO's Tangrowth. But yeah, it's the best thing I got. Weezing works well I guess, maybe I use that over Gliscor.
 
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