Red and Blue
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Sorry, I meant alternate evolutions instead of regional variants. I edited my post a bit.
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Rumors & Leaks - Discussion Thread [SPOILER WARNING]
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divinepokemonXZ
ALL HAIL THE GORILLA-FROG!
I suspect they would change the ears to avoid looking too much like Scorbunny. I hope they at least keep the color scheme and the eyes.
Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
So the TeraLeaker has ended his leaking.
This week and last he was just showing various leaked in-game features and the like for Gens 6 and 7.
He does have data on Z-A and Gen 10 but will not be releasing that until after their respective releases, he is not thinking about it though also.
He called out Centro for parroting his info incorrectly and he called out Khu for being a liar, saying that 70% of what he's said in the past year and a bit have all been incorrect and can confirm that.
This week and last he was just showing various leaked in-game features and the like for Gens 6 and 7.
He does have data on Z-A and Gen 10 but will not be releasing that until after their respective releases, he is not thinking about it though also.
He called out Centro for parroting his info incorrectly and he called out Khu for being a liar, saying that 70% of what he's said in the past year and a bit have all been incorrect and can confirm that.
scififan21
Well-Known Member
Somebody calling Khu out is funny to me, considering how convoluted some of his 'riddles' can be. I never really followed them myself mostly just watched Youtube videos breaking them down was somewhat fun at times.
Red and Blue
Well-Known Member
Part of me thinks that they went with a random set of starters for Arceus to help set it apart from BDSP rather than being a staple of the Legends series. Z-A isn’t coming out along with an XY remake so they might of felt that the original trio didn’t need to be replaced.
RileyXY1
Young Battle Trainer
And I think they'll be freshened up this time as I think that they'll have Megas, unlike XY.
PrinceOfFacade
Ghost-Type Master
I keep telling y'all to stop listening to Khu. lol
Anyhoo, I'm kinda glad the leaks are over. It was quite overkill, too much info at once. I still wish we had gotten concept art of Lumiose City.
Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
im just stating it to also drive that point
Copley Hill Gym
Well-Known Member
Khu was obviously not a reliable source, repeatedly.
Beloberto
Bug Catcher
Khu has been right in most things he say, though (and saying 70% of what he said in 2024 was bs doesn't really mean much, did he really said anything this year besides "I know the inside name for Z-A is ikkaku"?).
People really overblow the few things he got wrong, but for each thing he said that didn't turn out to be in the game there were 10 or more that he was right about.
The problem with Khu is not that he is unreliable, but that he is useless as far as being a leaker goes.
And that's because he doesn't "leak" anything, he just teases the information in front of others, in a way that tells us nothing concrete at the moment, but is distinguishable enough for him to go back to it months later and say "See? I knew about that already months before of you!".
The entire point of his twitter is not to leak information, is just to tell you that he knows stuff you don't, and therefore he is special for it. It's not leak, it's just self-serving.
People desperate for any crumble of information or source of discussion fill his tweets with engagement despite getting nothing concrete out of him, while he gets an audience to watch him patting himself in the back.
People really overblow the few things he got wrong, but for each thing he said that didn't turn out to be in the game there were 10 or more that he was right about.
The problem with Khu is not that he is unreliable, but that he is useless as far as being a leaker goes.
And that's because he doesn't "leak" anything, he just teases the information in front of others, in a way that tells us nothing concrete at the moment, but is distinguishable enough for him to go back to it months later and say "See? I knew about that already months before of you!".
The entire point of his twitter is not to leak information, is just to tell you that he knows stuff you don't, and therefore he is special for it. It's not leak, it's just self-serving.
People desperate for any crumble of information or source of discussion fill his tweets with engagement despite getting nothing concrete out of him, while he gets an audience to watch him patting himself in the back.
Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
Some interesting leaks from gen 7 still
-Ilima was originally going to have a 2 stage normal type rooster line on his team
-There was a bug line that was going to have a split evo into either a stag beetle or butterfly, seems it was turned into the Vikavolt line and possibly Ribombee separately.
-There was going to be a 2 stage Potato Pokemon
-Bruxish and Turtonator were going to have a prevo
-There was going to be a Grass/Water type Basilisk lizard 2 stage line, but was dropped because it ultimately looked too similar to the Salazzle line and was felt too redundant to have.
-Scrapped psychic sea slug line based off of the Menehune (folklore) and Menehune (snail species). Was scrapped because its gender differences of being blue and pink were way too similar to the Gastrodon line.
-There was suppose to be 2 fossils one Rock/Water and the other was Rock/undecided and they would've been found at the Jurassic Park-esque location on Akala.
-SM was only suppose to have DLC, which was to include over 200 ingame missions of new content to play through. I bet you most of what worked was just what they ended up putting in USUM
-There was going to be a Gym building and owning mechanic
-Poke Pelago was originally going to be a 3d modeled Super Mario Galaxy esque mini solar system to oversee instead. Each planetoid would be for different types and mechanics, where you could see your Pokemon exploring them.
-There was at one point a collecting quest to find one of all the apricot balls that were hidden throughout the game called "The Seven Kurt Balls Scattered In Alola"
-Z-Moves were originally called Aura Boost, which the Pokemon would taken on a golden radiating aura due to energy extended from the player.
-Scrapped rhythm based mechanic called Pokemon Dance, would of handled like Dance Dance Revolution control wise.
-Battle Facility was original the Battle Cruise, which would see various leaders and champions from other regions be options to battle by stopping at different ports and that there was going to be 5 facilities.
-Team Rainbow Rocket was intended for SM originally. Red and Blue were also suppose to be part of the plot originally, it was going to be tied with recruiting members for a new League, another post-game mechanic, which would be tied to the gym building mechanic.
-Before Aura Boost and Z-Moves, the original gimmick for the gen was to have Guardians which would be summonable type elementals that would have various affects in battle based on its type.
-O-Powers were going to return but this time be given by finding rare uncatchable mini-Pokemon, each one being responsible for a different O-Power or leaving a beneficial item behind. They were originally going to be unique but then were planned to be tiny versions of existing Pokemon.
-Ilima was originally going to have a 2 stage normal type rooster line on his team
-There was a bug line that was going to have a split evo into either a stag beetle or butterfly, seems it was turned into the Vikavolt line and possibly Ribombee separately.
-There was going to be a 2 stage Potato Pokemon
-Bruxish and Turtonator were going to have a prevo
-There was going to be a Grass/Water type Basilisk lizard 2 stage line, but was dropped because it ultimately looked too similar to the Salazzle line and was felt too redundant to have.
-Scrapped psychic sea slug line based off of the Menehune (folklore) and Menehune (snail species). Was scrapped because its gender differences of being blue and pink were way too similar to the Gastrodon line.
-There was suppose to be 2 fossils one Rock/Water and the other was Rock/undecided and they would've been found at the Jurassic Park-esque location on Akala.
-SM was only suppose to have DLC, which was to include over 200 ingame missions of new content to play through. I bet you most of what worked was just what they ended up putting in USUM
-There was going to be a Gym building and owning mechanic
-Poke Pelago was originally going to be a 3d modeled Super Mario Galaxy esque mini solar system to oversee instead. Each planetoid would be for different types and mechanics, where you could see your Pokemon exploring them.
-There was at one point a collecting quest to find one of all the apricot balls that were hidden throughout the game called "The Seven Kurt Balls Scattered In Alola"
-Z-Moves were originally called Aura Boost, which the Pokemon would taken on a golden radiating aura due to energy extended from the player.
-Scrapped rhythm based mechanic called Pokemon Dance, would of handled like Dance Dance Revolution control wise.
-Battle Facility was original the Battle Cruise, which would see various leaders and champions from other regions be options to battle by stopping at different ports and that there was going to be 5 facilities.
-Team Rainbow Rocket was intended for SM originally. Red and Blue were also suppose to be part of the plot originally, it was going to be tied with recruiting members for a new League, another post-game mechanic, which would be tied to the gym building mechanic.
-Before Aura Boost and Z-Moves, the original gimmick for the gen was to have Guardians which would be summonable type elementals that would have various affects in battle based on its type.
-O-Powers were going to return but this time be given by finding rare uncatchable mini-Pokemon, each one being responsible for a different O-Power or leaving a beneficial item behind. They were originally going to be unique but then were planned to be tiny versions of existing Pokemon.
He's said a few other things, such as implying that the Starters for ZA is just the Kalos trio with something new. So things like that can be treated with more scrutiny.
That said, a leaker having information in the past doesn't mean they'll always have that information, nor abuse the fact that they used to and spread misinformation to keep clout. There's been multiple cases of leakers doing just that and misleading the fanbases just to hold onto their five minutes of relevance, one such example being a user from the pre-release Smash Ultimate era who got the E3 information right, but then pedaled Skull Kid as the next character for months before they were finally outed and revealed they knew nothing more. Khu can be another case of that, we can't pretend it's not possible for him to string people along with false information to keep engagement, particularly when his manner of giving 'leaks' in general is done in a way to keep engagement.
Regardless, as you said what information he gives out is done in such an obtuse way that it's not like we're losing much of anything. Not going to be hard to miss things like 'can you guess the new mon from these four Pokemon? Sike, it's Ursaluna!'.
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Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
Rumours from a guy with a good track record of leaking info, has been stating more stuff on Famiboards.
For reference they leaked info about Nintendo Switch OLED, Mairo & Luigi: Brothership and the August Indie & Partner Showcase Direct.
The leaker is stating that the Switch Successor will have a huge announcement in January and a release in March. With a product launch 2x the size of the Switch's original launch.
For Pokemon news, it sounds like Pokemon Home will have a updated version of the app for the new console as well. However it would have a new host rather than a return of Grand Oak.
In a cipher code, was a reference to a line that Bianca says upon being defeated, hinting that she (or relative) will be the host for Pokemon Home's new app.
For reference they leaked info about Nintendo Switch OLED, Mairo & Luigi: Brothership and the August Indie & Partner Showcase Direct.
The leaker is stating that the Switch Successor will have a huge announcement in January and a release in March. With a product launch 2x the size of the Switch's original launch.
For Pokemon news, it sounds like Pokemon Home will have a updated version of the app for the new console as well. However it would have a new host rather than a return of Grand Oak.
In a cipher code, was a reference to a line that Bianca says upon being defeated, hinting that she (or relative) will be the host for Pokemon Home's new app.
PrinceOfFacade
Ghost-Type Master
If this is true, then we can possibly expect a Legends-ZA release as early as March itself.
The initial press for it already hinted at a dual-console release, which means it'll be released on both the Switch and its successor.
Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
I dunno, seems to me its a toss up for dual release.
I really think that Metroid Prime 4 and Z-A aren't going on the new console until a year or so on the Switch first.
I feel like Nintendo will have a specific handful of launch titles for Switch 2.
PrinceOfFacade
Ghost-Type Master
Metroid Prime 4 already has 2025 as its launch date, so I'd be surprised if it doesn't get a 'Switch 2' port.
As for Legends: Z-A, it is probably the second most-anticipated Nintendo title, after Metroid Prime 4, so it would be par for the course for Nintendo to include it on their list of 'Switch 2' launch titles.
ShadowForce720
Well-Known Member
No offense, but you seem to be forgetting that Pokemon is not like Nintendo’s other franchises, as if you actually look at the history of the main series releases for the Pokemon games in relation to the new consoles coming out you would notice it always takes about a year or more after the new console has been released for a new main series Pokémon game to come out for that system.
Heck the Nintendo Switch came out in March 2017 but the first main series Pokémon games being Let’s Go Pikachu and Let’s Go Eevee didn’t come out until November 2018.
So if anything it’s actually pretty unlikely that Legends Z-A will come out for the “Switch 2” in 2025, especially when you consider the gen 10 games are likely coming out in November 2026 as part of the 30th anniversary so they will likely want those games to be the first main series Pokémon games on the new system.
RileyXY1
Young Battle Trainer
I think that things might change due to Pokémon being on a home console now, and I'm expecting Gen 10 to be pushed back to 2027 for the sake of optimization and fixing many of the issues that plagued SV. I think the 2026 will instead be a much smaller game handled by ILCA.
ShadowForce720
Well-Known Member
Your really misunderstanding how serious Pokémon has started to take its major anniversaries, it’s pretty safe to say there is no way Gamefreak is going to let the main series games just be a smaller game handled by ILCA.
There not going to push back gen 10 when they can tie it to the 30th anniversary and have come out in 2026.