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Rumors & Leaks - Speculation/Discussion Thread [⚠️PLEASE HIDE STORY SPOILERS⚠️]

Wulava

danger chili pepper
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Considering the abundance of "leaks", and to avoid the other threads from being clogged with conjecture and spam, I think it's best to put all discussion about these things on this thread.

All forum rules apply.

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LEAK COMPILATION (Keep checking back for updates)
On July 13, 2022, someone who called himself 'Kaka' decided to leak stuff. The following is a compilation of all the info given by said leaker and Khu.

Orange highlights are not leaks.
Yellow highlights are leaks confirmed by official information.
Blue highlights are leaks that are somewhat correct.

Region/Characters/Story Info
  • Parudeya [パルデヤ] (confirmed as Paldea) Region. Has 3 cities and 9 towns.
    • The region is considerably larger than all of Hisui combined if you consider the oceans and islands that surround it.
  • Gyms can be done in any order, but the teams/levels don't change.
    • Gym Leader type specializations and jobs:
      • Bug
      • Grass | sculptor (confirmed as Brassius)
      • Water
      • Ice | snowboarder (confirmed as Grusha)
      • Electric | streamer (confirmed as Iono)
      • Normal
      • Ghost | rapper
      • Psychic | supermodel
    • Gym Leaders have "important secrets".
    • Each gym can be cleared twice in the main game.
    • The Water-type Gym is located at the town on water.
    • The Ghost-type Gym is also located on the snowy mountain.
    • The Normal-type gym is not located on a mountain.
    • Recommended Gym tackle order due to level and location: Bug/Grass > Electric/Water > Normal > Ghost > Ice > Psychic.
    • Each Gym will have its own musical arrangement of the gym theme similar to B2W2.
    • [PLOT SPOILER] One of the gyms was closed down before the story starts. Its ruins are still on the map. One of the E4 stepped down and regained the title of a Gym Leader, the reason why their gym locations are close.
  • Elite Four returns.
    • Types used by E4 does not overlap those of Gym Leaders: Dragon, Flying, Ground, and Steel.
    • They were shown in the August 3 trailer.
    • One of them is a kid, and is not a rival character.
    • One of them is a Gym Leader.
    • One of them is a teacher.
    • Two of them are female, two are male.
  • The Gym Leaders and Elite Four will use Pokemon not of their type specialty, but will utilize Terastalization.
  • Rival (confirmed as Penny) is a red-haired female whose personality is not like Hop. She only uses Eevee and her evolutions. Her ace is Sylveon. Penny is actually in cahoots with the evil team, but the school doesn't know (Khu).
  • Nemona uses Pawmi and Lycanroc. She is a Champion Rank trainer.
  • Arven is the son of Professor Sada and Turo, who were actually "dead" (Khu).
  • The female teacher wearing black shown with a Hariyama also uses a Medicham. She does not have an important role though.
  • The main villain was shown in the Aug 3 trailer.
  • Team Star Admin types: Fire (Schedar), Fighting (Caph), Poison (Navi), Dark (Ruchbach), Fairy (Segin)
  • According to Kaka, there is more than one Champion and are version-exclusive. They were apparently already shown in the trailers. However, Khu claims otherwise.
  • Geeta is the only Champion (Khu). She will have the ostrich, poison flower and the hake fish on her team. She will not have the pseudo-legend.
  • Prof. Sada & Turo ONLY appears on their respective versions.
  • There are classes, interviews and exams in the game.
  • The racing flags signify "enemies/opponents".
  • SV's story is "tear-jerkingly good".
  • SV has multiple endings. There are a total of 3 routes. Finishing all 3 leads to the true ending.
  • The rift at the center of Paldea can be explored post-game.
  • Plot spoiler:
    • You cannot use your own Pokemon during the climax battle.
    • You cannot use Koraidon/Miraidon in battle not until the climax.

Gameplay Info
  • There are no artificial blocks anywhere in the game.
    • No trainers will block your path.
    • You can challenge the League with a single badge. However, you will fail the test and get kicked out of the stadium.
  • However, certain riding skills are necessary in order to access Gyms.
  • Wild Pokemon levels do not scale.
  • Clothing options are only limited to pants and shorts (no skirts), all tops are school uniforms, and facial customizationis still in. Hairstyles are also limited.
    • There is a crystal mirror maze area that may cause inappropriate behavior among players. Hence, the removal of skirts.
  • The camera is controllable during battle.
  • Mass outbreaks return.
  • Alpha Pokemon are present, but under a different name and are tied to the story (confirmed as Titan Pokemon).
    • Titan Pokemon Types (and recommended order based on level): Rock, Flying, Steel, Dragon, Ground
  • Overworld Pokemon size variation returns.
  • Shiny Pokemon can be seen on the overworld.
  • There is a Pokemon catching mechanic that doesn't involve battles (not technically "catching", but Auto-Battles/Let's Go were introduced).
  • Picnics are the new camping mechanic.
    • Eggs are obtained through this feature.
      • Incubators are used to hatch the eggs.
      • It takes around 1-2 hours for eggs to hatch.
        • It is unknown if it refers to in-game hours or real-time clock. Also unknown if step count still affects hatching.
    • You can wash your Pokemon during picnics, which heals their HP and raises friendship.
    • You can make sandwiches.
  • Pokemon can only follow you outdoors.
  • There are certain aggressive Pokemon that will try to ambush you: Tauros, Mankey line, Klawf, one of the new dog lines, chili pepper line, grasshopper line.
  • If you run away during battles, the wild Pokemon will stay in the overworld.
  • The move tutor feature is similar to PLA, and is accessible via the in-game menu (pressing X).
  • There is a "Time Warping" feature that only applies to Pokemon.
  • There is an Auction feature with NPCs. You can only buy from them though.
    • Rotom's catalog can only be obtained through auctions.
  • There is an NPC who will trade Pokemon from a previous game.
    • A teacher will trade a Galarian Meowth for a Pawmi. G-Meowth is not registered in the Pokedex however.
  • There is a quest where you need to collect 10 pieces of a certain item by defeating Bronzor/Sinistea (based on version), which allows you to obtain an evolution item for evolving the Fire Warrior/Blade Pokemon.
  • There is DLC.
    • There is a PKHex-like feature.
  • There are raid battles (confirmed as Tera Raid Battles).
    • 6/7-star Terastal Raids are actually hard and have Lv100 Final-staged Pokemon in them.
    • Paradox Pokemon are also found on 7-star Terastal raids.
  • There will be between 21-40 new abilities.
    • There is a new ability that is pretty much a clone of Tsareena's 'Queenly Majesty'.
    • None of the starters evolutions will have new abilities.
  • There will be between 46-65 new moves.
  • There are no racing minigames (unclear).
  • You do not visit Kalos post-game.
  • Missing/removed/changed features:
    • No Battle Tower (or anything similar)
    • No daycare centers (see Picnics above)
    • No new types, but will introduce new type combinations.
    • No new evolutionary stones.
    • No National Dex.
    • No difficulty settings.
    • No returning characters.
    • No Mega Evolution.
    • No Z-Moves.
    • No bicycle.
    • No fishing.
    • No voice acting.
    • The ability "Download" has been removed.

General Pokemon Info
  • The National Dex now surpasses 1,000 total Pokemon. The 1,000th Pokemon is nothing special.
  • Regional Pokedex has around 400 Pokemon.
  • There is a sidequest that Eevee fans will enjoy.
  • List of returning Pokemon in the base game:
    • Gen 1
      • Raichu, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Wigglytuff, Venomoth, Dugtrio, Persian, Golduck, Primeape, Arcanine, Tentacruel, Slowbro, Muk, Cloyster, Gengar, Hypno, Electrode, Tauros, Gyarados, Ditto, Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon, Dragonite
    • Gen 2
      • Ampharos, Azumarill, Sudowoodo, Jumpluff, Sunflora, Quagsire, Espeon, Umbreon, Slowking, Forretress, Dunsparce, Qwilfish, Scizor, Ursaring, Delibird, Houndoom, Donphan, Stantler, Blissey, Tyranitar
    • Gen 3
      • Pelipper, Gardevoir, Masquerain, Breloom, Slaking, Hariyama, Sableye, Mawile, Medicham, Swalot, Camerupt, Torkoal, Grumpig, Cacturne, Altaria, Zangoose, Seviper, Whiscash, Tropius, Glalie, Luvdisc, Salamence
    • Gen 4
      • Staraptor, Luxray, Vespiquen, Pachirisu, Floatzel, Gastrodon, Drifblim, Mismagius, Honchkrow, Spiritomb, Bronzong, Garchomp, Lucario, Hippowdon, Lumineon, Abomasnow, Weavile, Magnezone, Leafeon, Glaceon, Gallade, Froslass, Rotom
    • Gen 5
      • Lilligant, Basculin, Krookodile, Crustle, Zoroark, Sawsbuck, Amoonguss, Alomomola, Eelektross, Haxorus, Beartic, Cryogonal, Bisharp, Braviary, Hydreigon, Volcarona
    • Gen 6
      • Talonflame, Vivillon, Pyroar, Florges, Gogoat, Pangoro, Clawitzer, Sylveon, Hawlucha, Dedenne, Carbink, Goodra, Avalugg, Noivern
    • Gen 7
      • Gumshoos, Crabominable, Oricorio, Lycanroc, Toxapex, Mudsdale, Florantis, Salazzle, Tsareena, Golisopod, Palossand, Pyukumuku, Komala, Mimikyu, Bruxish, Dhelmise
    • Gen 8
      • Greedent, Corviknight, Drednaw, Coalossal, Flapple, Appletun, Sandacobra, Barraskewda, Toxtricity, Polteageist, Hatterene, Grimmsnarl, Perrserker, Falinks, Pincurchin, Frosmoth, Stonjourner, Eiscue, Indeedee, Copperajah, Dragapult
    • HOME Transfer Only
      • Charizard, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Mew, H-Typhlosion, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Victini, H-Samurott, Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus, Meloetta, Chesnaught, Delphox, Greninja, Diancie, H-Decidueye, Magearna, Wyrdeer, Kleavor, Ursaluna, Basculegion, Sneasler, Overqwil, Enamorus
    • Found in the game, but not in the Dex
      • Toxicroak, Salazzle
  • The above list may change in the final version.

New Pokemon Info
  • There are 109 new Pokemon.
    • There are a total of 45 Pokemon lines, 5 cross-gen evolutions, 16 Paradox Pokemon, and 4 regional variants. Line breakdown are as follows:
      • [8] 3-stage lines, including starters
      • [21] 2-stage lines + [1] 2-stage line with split evo
      • [9] Pokemon that do not evolve
      • [6] Legendary Pokemon
  • Starter Pokemon:
    • Sprigatito's evo is "so-so" in terms of cuteness, has a broken hidden ability, and has a magician theme.
      • Its middle evolution uses a wand/yoyo-like item.
      • Final evo is classified as "Magician Pokemon". It knows a Grass-type move that use magic to heal itself and damage foes. It also knows a Dark-type hex move that causes damage and burn/paralysis to foes, but needs a recharge on the next turn.
      • This evolution line is the only new cat Pokemon.
      • "Psychedelic Masquerade Cat", loose translation based on Khu's description
    • Fuecoco has a singer/rockstar theme.
      • It's middle evo has a flaming egg on its head.
      • The final evo has a flaming bird instead. Its signature move has something to do with sound. Apparently, it can also stands on two legs.
      • "Jazz Crocodile", loose translation based on Khu's description
    • Quaxly's evolution has a carnival/peacock dancer theme.
      • "Carnival Lead Duck", loose translation based on Khu's description
    • Starters leg count as they evolve:
      • Sprigatito: 4 > 2 > 2
      • Fuecoco: 2 > 2 > 4/2(?)
      • Quaxly: 2 > 2 > 2
    • All final starter evos are humanoid but not gender-specific.
  • New Pokemon:
    • Single-stage Pokemon:
      • flamingo (Flying/Fighting)
      • parakeet (Normal/Flying; has multiple forms similar to Vivillon & Alcremie)
      • earthworm (Steel; 2.5m or 8.2ft long)
      • crab (Rock) (confirmed as Klawf; Rock)
      • sushi (Water/Dragon)
      • sushi chef catfish/oyakata (Water)
      • crane-like big bird (Dark/Flying)
      • lightweight "hake" fish (Water/Psychic; does not fly)
      • Motorbike (Dragon; said to be the origin of Koraidon/Miraidon) [confirmed Cyclizar on Aug 21 trailer; Dragon/Normal]
    • 2-stage Pokemon:
      • Lechonk + Lechonk2 (Normal/???; gender difference: female has lipstick, male also has some sort of makeup)
      • Cetitan1 (Ice) + Cetitan
      • Fidough + Fidough2 (Fairy; red and brown in color)
      • engine (Poison/Steel; has tires rather than legs)
      • dolphin (Water; evo has 2 forms: one is a bipedal superhero, has a heart theme)
      • flower (Poison/Rock; the leaked pic is the 2nd stage)
      • chili pepper kappa (Grass/Fire)
      • coin/ningen (Ghost; obtained like Spiritomb in PLA, works like Zygarde's cells, varied colors) (confirmed as Gimmighoul; Ghost)
      • plasma frog (Electric/Psychic; first stage is a lightbulb tadpole with a filament tail) (confirmed as Bellibolt; Electric)
      • scarab/dung beetle (Bug, then Bug/Psychic)
      • ostrich (Psychic)
      • mushroom (Grass/???; Tentacool-like)
      • pink eel (Water; Diglett-like) (confirmed as Wiglett)
      • waterfowl/petrel (Electric/Flying)
      • dark dog (Dark)
      • ghost dog (Ghost) (confimed as Greavard)
      • rodent/marsupial (Normal/???; has 'Parental Bond' ability; mice couple that evolves into a mice family; multiple forms)
      • spider (Bug)
      • grasshopper/Kamen Rider-inspired (Bug/Dark)
      • spray paint aye-aye (Poison/???) (confirmed as Grafaiai; Poison/Normal)
      • tumbleweed (Grass/Ghost; not Tangela-like)
      • knight split evo: warrior (Fire/???; Scarlet-only) OR blade (Fire/???; Violet-only) (confirmed as Armarouge; Fire/Psychic & Ceruledge; Fire/Ghost respectively)
    • 3-stage Pokemon:
      • Pawmi + Pawmi2 + Pawmi3 (Electric/Fighting; has 1-PP move that revives Pokemon)
      • Smoliv + Smoliv2 + Smoliv3 (Grass/Normal; plant-humanoid olive tree)
      • hammer fairy (Fairy/Steel; one of E4's ace)
      • minecraft-like/blocky rock salt (Rock)
      • pseudo-legendary spinosaurus (Ice/Dragon)
    • Legendary Pokemon:
      • Four Perils. They are not part of the main story, may be antagonistic, are caught similar to Galarian Legendary Birds, and can be found anywhere. They also have vessels that become part of their design.
        • Dinglu/deer (Dark/Ground; cauldron)
        • Yuyu/fish (Dark/Fire; gem)
        • Jianbao/leopard (Dark/Ice; sword)
        • Jianwo/snail (Dark/Grass; bamboo scroll)
      • Koraidon/Miraidon
        • They are the only ride Pokemon.
        • They act similar to PLA ride Pokemon (flying, swimming, climbing, etc).
        • Its Battle Form is unlocked post-game.
        • The basic riding and low jump forms are obtained after unlocked free-roam (which takes around 2 in-game hours). Swimming, flying, etc are obtained by progressing through the game.
        • You can trade (a second?) Miraidon and Koraidon with other players to register them in your Dex.
        • They each have an item exclusively for them.
        • Comparable to Groudon & Kyogre battle-wise.
    • Other details:
      • One of the Pokemon has an "insanely good" ability but bad type resistances.
      • All new bug Pokemon are obtainable on the early routes.
      • The engine and coin Pokemon were somewhat modified by Team Star.
      • The coin Pokemon is OP, has a new powerful ability, and 5PP 140/150BP attack move.
      • 3 of the new Pokemon are not available in the base game.
  • There is a third mascot legendary, but it is most likely saved for the DLC.
    • The angry face on the Terastal crystals is related to it.
  • No new fossil Pokemon.

New Forms/Evolutions Info
  • The only regional variants:
    • Paldean Wooper (Poison) (type confirmed as Poison/Ground)
    • Aside from its regular form, Tauros has 3 regional forms in the game. Its types can either be: Fire, Electric, Ice, Grass, Water, Poison or Ghost. It also has a shared typing. It is not: Steel, Flying, Ghost, Dragon, Fairy or Normal.
      • Tauros (Normal)
      • Paldean Tauros [Black] (Fighting)
      • Paldean Tauros [Red] (Fighting/Fire)
      • Paldean Tauros [Blue] (Fighting/Water)
  • Pokemon with new evolutions:
    • Paldean Wooper2 (brown in color)
    • Girafarig2 (Psychic; name is also a palindrome and has 'Ruminant' for its ability) (confirmed as Farigiraf; Normal/Psychic; Cud Chew)
    • Dunsparce2 (Normal; evolution doesn't fly and looks like a bigger Dunsparce; multiple forms)
    • Primeape3 (Fighting/Ghost; evolution method is interesting; has long fur and looks like a hermit; most difficult Pokemon to obtain)
    • Bisharp3 (Steel/Dark)
  • Paradox Pokemon (Ancient/Future forms) are considered different Pokemon, will have separate Pokedex entries and have different names.
    • There are a total of 16 Paradox Pokemon:
      • Ancient Forms:
        • Donphan (Ground/Fighting)
        • Volcarona (Bug/Fighting)
        • Amoonguss (Grass/???)
        • Jigglypuff (Fairy/???)
        • Misdreavus (Ghost/Fairy)
        • Magneton
        • Salamence (Dragon/Dark)
        • Suicune
      • Future Forms:
        • Donphan (Ground/Electric)
        • Volcarona (Fire/Poison)
        • Gallade (Fighting/Fairy)
        • Hariyama (Fighting/???)
        • Delibird (Ice/Water)
        • Hydreigon (Dragon/Flying)
        • Tyranitar
        • Virizion
    • Note that Gallade may also be Kirlia or Gardevoir. Hydreigon may also be Zweilous.
    • Type distribution (25/28): 5 Fighting, 4 Electric, 3 Fairy, 3 Dragon, 3 Dark, 2 Ground, 1 Ghost, 1 Grass, 1 Ice, 1 Bug, 1 Fire, 3 unknown types.
    • Ancient Suicune and Future Virizion were removed from the game's data, but may possibly return in the future.
    • They only change in name and appearance.
    • The do not get boosted stats compared to the original Pokemon.
    • They are neither ancestors nor descendants of existing Pokemon.
    • All Paradox Pokemon are dual-typed.
    • They do not evolve, but are very strong in battle.
    • Ancient forms are Scarlet-exclusive. Future forms are Violet-exclusive.
    • These Pokemon are found on the endgame area, and you can encounter several of them unlike SM's Ultra Beasts.
  • There is a minotaur, but it's not a new Pokemon.
  • Convergent Pokemon/RFakes aren't a thing. Khu admitted that he had mistaken the new eel Pokemon as a Diglett variant.
  • New Rotom forms were found in the data, but was removed.
  • No new forms for Magnemite, Lucario, Dodrio, Lugia, Ho-oh.
  • No new evolutions for Eevee, Golduck, Sunflora, Maractus.

Gimmick Details (Crystallization) (confirmed as Terastal Phenomenon)
  • A special ball-like item (confmred as Tera orb) given by Nemona, that can be used once per battle.
  • Can be used on all Pokemon (including Paradox Pokemon), but reverts once recalled or fainted.
  • When used, it gives the Pokemon a crystalline aura and additional flourish (like the skull-and-bones).
  • It buffs a single type (which can be changed).
  • These forms are not registered in the Pokedex.

Uncertain (from Kaka's Q&A)
  • If Quaxly's evo fights with its legs
  • If Kneading is Sprigatito's signature move
  • If Ursaring, Stantler, or Scyther can evolve into PLA evos
 
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janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
Are there any leaks from a leaks from was right in the past? o.o
 

Smeargle-Sketch

Sketcher of Smeargles
Are there any leaks from a leaks from was right in the past? o.o
Literally everything Riddler Khu posted on twitter for Legends Arceus

Before that it was the Affleck leak and Centro parroting info from a dataminer before they showed the entire dex

Uncle, a leaker from China leaked info on Enamorus

Riddler Khu is still posting riddles and currently there is also Uncle who has posted his own rumor saying that Khu is right but added more.

The current rumors that are plausible are these, due to coming from Khu or Uncle:

-Starters are Grass/Dark, Fire/Ghost and Water/Fighting
-Legendaries are Fighting/Dragon, Electric/Dragon and Dark/Dragon
-Tauros gets a regional form and regional evolution that will look like a minotaur
-Khu leaked today an image of a bullfight labled with 1? 2? 5? on it, Tauros in Kalos dex is 125, but also could hint at Gen 1's Tauros, Gen 2's Miltank and Gen 5's Bouffalant getting something to? A prevo? All 3 get evolutions? Its just to relate that its about a bull Pokemon?
-There is a Pokemon based off the Spanish Tooth Fairy myth, which much like France's is a mouse, its speculated that Dedenne also is getting a regional form due to being based of that myth as well. However it could also be any mouse pokemon or a new one if real.
-SV will be pulling heavily from old and scrapped ideas, the game concept has been gestating for a while in contrast to what the 2022 release date would lead you to believe.
-New gimmick is described as "similar to job changing from Final Fantasy but with types"
-Storyline has vague similarities to BW, involves two fueding families who rule the region with one of the two (this number is conjecture on my part as they were compared to Cheren and Bianca) rivals getting the opposite mascot legend
-SV will have one of the largest new Pokemon selections in a very long time, around the ballpark of Gens 1/3/5
 

Ultra Beast Lover

Well-Known Member
I wish it wasn't Riddler Khu we had to get leaks from, he gets so obnoxious about Centro reposting things.

Anyways, two feuding families would be interesting and the castle in the city does back up the idea that someone rules the region
 

janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
Literally everything Riddler Khu posted on twitter for Legends Arceus

Before that it was the Affleck leak and Centro parroting info from a dataminer before they showed the entire dex

Uncle, a leaker from China leaked info on Enamorus

Riddler Khu is still posting riddles and currently there is also Uncle who has posted his own rumor saying that Khu is right but added more.

The current rumors that are plausible are these, due to coming from Khu or Uncle:

-Starters are Grass/Dark, Fire/Ghost and Water/Fighting
-Legendaries are Fighting/Dragon, Electric/Dragon and Dark/Dragon
-Tauros gets a regional form and regional evolution that will look like a minotaur
-Khu leaked today an image of a bullfight labled with 1? 2? 5? on it, Tauros in Kalos dex is 125, but also could hint at Gen 1's Tauros, Gen 2's Miltank and Gen 5's Bouffalant getting something to? A prevo? All 3 get evolutions? Its just to relate that its about a bull Pokemon?
-There is a Pokemon based off the Spanish Tooth Fairy myth, which much like France's is a mouse, its speculated that Dedenne also is getting a regional form due to being based of that myth as well. However it could also be any mouse pokemon or a new one if real.
-SV will be pulling heavily from old and scrapped ideas, the game concept has been gestating for a while in contrast to what the 2022 release date would lead you to believe.
-New gimmick is described as "similar to job changing from Final Fantasy but with types"
-Storyline has vague similarities to BW, involves two fueding families who rule the region with one of the two (this number is conjecture on my part as they were compared to Cheren and Bianca) rivals getting the opposite mascot legend
-SV will have one of the largest new Pokemon selections in a very long time, around the ballpark of Gens 1/3/5
Are there other things he leaked?
Can u elaborate about the new gimmick? I never played Final Fabtasy so I didn’t understand it hehe
 

Fairy King

Well-Known Member
I'm not in favor of the starters getting the same final typings as PLA just a little remixed. I don't mind any of those typings alone ending up in the mix but not a complete rehash. I would also be surprised if we got a large amount of new Pokemon.
 

Smeargle-Sketch

Sketcher of Smeargles
Are there other things he leaked?
Can u elaborate about the new gimmick? I never played Final Fabtasy so I didn’t understand it hehe
Riddler Khu leaked every new regional variant, evolution and warden and noble Pokemon with his riddles for Legends Arceus
He also leaked stuff from the Chinese Riddler who ended up leaking most of the gen 7 dex.
He says this is where he gets his sources from.

Uncle is relatively new, although he has only really leaked enamorus, he seems to be collaborating Khu's riddles as well.
Since it seems Tauros regional form or the like may be indeed true since that is what Khu is riddling about now.

From my understanding its like classes in rpgs, party members can take on a role to gain certain buffs, debuffs and skills which you can level up. So its possible with Khu's current riddle about "3" which may mean three types; Pokemon can gain a third type to buff them up in some manner, possibly like Dhelmise. However its currently unknown if this is actually true or not or even what they mean.
 

Wulava

danger chili pepper
Staff member
Moderator
Assuming this "third type" is a thing, it's probably just a temporary buff from a held item. Wouldn't be surprised if there's only 1 item for each type (much like the Z-Crystals), and is limited to 3 rounds (much like Dynamax).

Also, keeping it as a held item allows GF to completely discard this mechanic in future gens. Much like every other gimmick since Mega evolution.
 

Smeargle-Sketch

Sketcher of Smeargles
Assuming this "third type" is a thing, it's probably just a temporary buff from a held item. Wouldn't be surprised if there's only 1 item for each type (much like the Z-Crystals), and is limited to 3 rounds (much like Dynamax).

Also, keeping it as a held item allows GF to completely discard this mechanic in future gens. Much like every other gimmick since Mega evolution.
Agreed, ita probably the crystal we see in the Japanese logo as well as on the mosaic walls of the larger town we saw in the trailer.

Of course I think some Pokemon will get specific forms that take advantage of this gimmick if real.
 

janejane6178

Kaleido Star FOREVER in my heart <3
Agreed, ita probably the crystal we see in the Japanese logo as well as on the mosaic walls of the larger town we saw in the trailer.

Of course I think some Pokemon will get specific forms that take advantage of this gimmick if real.
Mega evo was the best ep in my opinion.. should have kept it and add more megas :(

Btw, if the leak is true and we will have a big batch of new Pokemon this time, I wonder if we will have regional forms/evo this time..... if so then we will have tons of new Pokemon/forms (including the new Pokemon them selves)
 
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OshyHikari

c l a r i t y
I don’t like the possible idea of the starters reusing the same secondary types as the Hisuian starters. Having a second straight Fire/Ghost would scream repetitiveness (remember the fandom being tired of Fire/Fighting?) and making Sprigatito’s evolution have the dreaded 7 weaknesses will instantly ruin its reputation like how a shallow movepool ruined Meganium and Serperior (at least until Contrary existed).
 

Orphalesion

Well-Known Member
Mega evo was the best ep in my opinion.. should have kept it and add more megas :(

Btw, if the leak is true and we will have a big batch of new Pokemon this time, I wonder if we will have regional forms/evo this time..... if so then we will have tons of new Pokemon/forms (including the new Pokemon them selves)

Honestly I really disliked Mega Evolution, it was just a temporary form change, it prevented pokemon like Absol from getting a real evolution, it favoured "popular" Pokemon in the distribution of mega evos rather than those who needed a power-up, and I'm fairly certain Gen 6 is the smallest because they had to create models for all those Mega Evos.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
The only way I would ever see a big batch of new Pokemon ever happening again is if the game reverted back to the use of 2D sprites, which we know isn't gonna happen with this game.
 

Orphalesion

Well-Known Member
The only way I would ever see a big batch of new Pokemon ever happening again is if the game reverted back to the use of 2D sprites, which we know isn't gonna happen with this game.

Still the number of Gen 6 Pokemon (without Megas) was smaller than Gen 7 or 8.
 

santiagus

AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE CAUSE I SAID SO
Let me add the POV from a person of Spain to see what we can clear things up or draw more questions....

-Starters are Grass/Dark, Fire/Ghost and Water/Fighting

No problem with that but we recently had a combination of those 6 types as starters recently.

About the animals they are going to be designed I guess Knight Iberian Lynx, Ghost Cocodrille and Admiral duck

I never seen a Cocodrile in Spain but I guess they never seen a Ninja Frog in france...
-Legendaries are Fighting/Dragon, Electric/Dragon and Dark/Dragon


The returns of Dragon legendaries was due, wonder what they represent or what they are masters of. Truth, Ideals, Life Death, Royalty? I don't know.

-Tauros gets a regional form and regional evolution that will look like a minotaur
-Khu leaked today an image of a bullfight labled with 1? 2? 5? on it, Tauros in Kalos dex is 125, but also could hint at Gen 1's Tauros, Gen 2's Miltank and Gen 5's Bouffalant getting something to? A prevo? All 3 get evolutions? Its just to relate that its about a bull Pokemon?

Off course there are going to be bull Pokemon I hope they do not end like... I'm joking, I hoped that Pokespain (Let's call this region like this for now) could have his own bull Pokemon since bulls are the national species of this country alongside maybe the Imperial Eagle (Despite beeing asociated with the dictatorship we had 50 years ago.)

But a regional mon Tauros more like it cause Bouffalant is well... a Buffalo... about the Minotaur, well makes sense that the evolution is two legged Tauros, it will make more sense in a Greek region but oh well...




-There is a Pokemon based off the Spanish Tooth Fairy myth, which much like France's is a mouse, its speculated that Dedenne also is getting a regional form due to being based of that myth as well. However it could also be any mouse pokemon or a new one if real.

I'ts called "Ratoncito Perez" and it's our Toothfairy, that greedy rat only gave me 1€ when any of my tooth fell. It's a really good idea for a mon. But I don't see him beeing the Pikaclone of this gen.

-New gimmick is described as "similar to job changing from Final Fantasy but with types"

I like Final Fantasy III gamestyle. So no problem with me, but how would you apply this in Pokemon? we are going to have more than 1000 Pokemon this Gen. I guess only some will have this power. I hope they do not complicate things more.

-Storyline has vague similarities to BW, involves two fueding families who rule the region with one of the two (this number is conjecture on my part as they were compared to Cheren and Bianca) rivals getting the opposite mascot legend

Royal families make sense cause Scarlet and Violet are royal colors. And well Spain has his share of Royal Families.

Will be fighting against one of them depending on the Version we choose?

-SV will have one of the largest new Pokemon selections in a very long time, around the ballpark of Gens 1/3/5

Let's say 100-120 or so. I hope Regional forms and evolutions are included in this number but not the new "forms" we are going to get, it's confirmed that we are not going to have a BW situation where, the main game was exclusive for Unovian Pokemon. But Gen 5 had 151 new Pokemon...
 
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Yveltal91057

Hurry up Ichigo! Follow the damn Baxcalibur!
Let me add the POV from a person of Spain to see what we can clear things up or draw more questions....



No problem with that but we recently had a combination of those 6 types as starters recently.

About the animals they are going to be designed I guess Knight Iberian Lynx, Ghost Cocodrille and Admiral duck

I never seen a Cocodrile in Spain but I guess they never seen a Ninja Frog in france...



The returns of Dragon legendaries was due, wonder what they represent or what they are masters of. Truth, Ideals, Life Death, Royalty? I don't know.



Off course there are going to be bull Pokemon I hope they do not end like... I'm joking, I hoped that Pokespain (Let's call this region like this for now) could have his own bull Pokemon since bulls are the national species of this country alongside maybe the Imperial Eagle (Despite beeing asociated with the dictatorship we had 50 years ago.)

But a regional mon Tauros more like it cause Bouffalant is well... a Buffalo... about the Minotaur, well makes sense that the evolution is two legged Tauros, it will make more sense in a Greek region but oh well...






I'ts called "Ratoncito Perez" and it's our Toothfairy, that greedy rat only gave me 1€ when any of my tooth fell. It's a really good idea for a mon. But I don't see him beeing the Pikaclone of this gen.



I like Final Fantasy III gamestyle. So no problem with me, but how would you apply this in Pokemon? we are going to have more than 1000 Pokemon this Gen. I guess only some will have this power. I hope they do not complicate things more.



Royal families make sense cause Scarlet and Violet are royal colors. And well Spain has his share of Royal Families.

Will be fighting against one of them depending on the Version we choose?



Let's say 100-120 or so. I hope Regional forms and evolutions are included in this number but not the new "forms" we are going to get, it's confirmed that we are not going to have a BW situation where, the main game was exclusive for Unovian Pokemon. But Gen 5 had 151 new Pokemon...
Gen 5 had 156 new Pokémon, not 151, but it’s still close enough.
 

Taodragon

Training Anaylst
I have to say I'm not really on board with the Uncle leak. Whenever people ask for the source the person who provided it gets dodgy, and it also doesn't help that the board that it was supposedly posted on also can't locate it. I think it's more questionable then it's given credit for, but we're heading into May so it's not like we'll be in the dark on it for too long.

As for the actual details, I'm not particularly fond of the idea of another Dragon trio and one of them being a repeat typing at that definitely doesn't help their case for me. It could pull something off that still makes it unique, but I do think with all of the different typing combinations they can do making their first repeat is a little disappointing. Same with Fire/Ghost potentially being reused, but that one's more questionable since the only source of it is the Uncle leak currently whereas the Dragon trio bit has Khu also hinting at it.
 
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