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Rumors & Leaks - Speculation/Discussion Thread [⚠️PLEASE HIDE STORY SPOILERS⚠️]

Ignition

From Pallet Town Rookie to World Champion
Disappointed that the Titan fights seem to be more like Dynamax Raids. Was hoping they'd be more like Totems with actual strategy.
 

Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
Now I'm not sure if ordering Scarlet was a good idea as Ceruledge looks so nice and much better than the other one.

I hope Paradox Salamance at least looks dope.
This is why I always preorder the dual pack. I won’t be missing any new Pokémon and can use Home to send over exclusives from one game to the other.
 

kemal07

Well-Known Member
I'm slightly confused now. The information seems to hint that their possibly isn't an Elite Four. But the E4 was mentioned by our famous leaker...

I got a SwSh vibe from the trailer. You challenge the Gym Leaders and then face of against other trainers that have gained Champion rank, perhaps in a bracket style tournament like in SwSh and the winner of that challenges Geeta perhaps?

But then it also says path to the Pokémon League, and every other league has had an elite four.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
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Captain Jigglypuff

Leader of Jigglypuff Army
I'm slightly confused now. The information seems to hint that their possibly isn't an Elite Four. But the E4 was mentioned by our famous leaker...

I got a SwSh vibe from the trailer. You challenge the Gym Leaders and then face of against other trainers that have gained Champion rank, perhaps in a bracket style tournament like in SwSh and the winner of that challenges Geeta perhaps?

But then it also says path to the Pokémon League, and every league has had an elite four.

What are your thoughts on this?
That is definitely wrong. Galar clearly had no E4 as the League was an elimination tournament with the Gym Leaders, rivals, and Leon. And each time you enter, the first two trainers you Battle are picked at random from a set list with only the final opponent being the one you picked.
 

kemal07

Well-Known Member
That is definitely wrong. Galar clearly had no E4 as the League was an elimination tournament with the Gym Leaders, rivals, and Leon. And each time you enter, the first two trainers you Battle are picked at random from a set list with only the final opponent being the one you picked.
Yes I am aware. I have played those games multiple times and know how it works. I meant to type 'every other league' had an Elite Four.

What I pointed out was my prediction. If there is an Elite Four, I just can't figure out where they will fit. As I said, it is stated that after beating the gym leaders we gain Champion rank and challenge trainers of those ranks. Considering there is more than one. It might even end up being similar to the SM and USUM layout where the final challenge after the E4 (if there is one) is a random selection of one out of the variety of other champion rank trainers. But then Geeta is mentioned to be strongest of them all which makes it seem like she is the true 'Champion'.


I'm just trying to make links with the leaks where it is stated that there is the region's E4 specialising in ground, Steel, flying and dragon types. And also the other leak which states the Champion is version exclusive in regards to gender.


It is all a bit confusing to me at the moment.
 

Litleonid

Well-Known Member
So this is the fire blade and warrior Kaka mentioned! They're pretty cool and looks kike they're Fire/Psychic and Fire/Ghost. Looks like we also got the Rock type crab at last.
 

GLTSRY

Sorry not sorry for my smugness
I think the Elite 4 system is a thing of the past by now. We had them for the last time in SM, but even then, we knew all characters besides Kahili.

Having four random strong characters that do nothing while the region is in a crisis just isn’t that intriguing of a concept.
 

Ultra Beast Lover

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I think the E4 is just going to be four of the people who made it to the Champion rank plus whoever the mystery champion is
 

Litleonid

Well-Known Member
Both Kaka and Khu are saying there's an E4 though. Are they just bein interperted as such and the game is gonna call them Champions, then reveal Geeta is the actual Champion?
 

GLTSRY

Sorry not sorry for my smugness
Both Kaka and Khu are saying there's an E4 though. Are they just bein interperted as such and the game is gonna call them Champions, then reveal Geeta is the actual Champion?
Maybe we’ll battle our rivals to obtain the rank of champion, similar to how we had to defeat Marnie/Hop/Bede before being able to participate in the Champion Cup
 

kemal07

Well-Known Member
So by looking at the leaks, trailers and fan speculation, it seems that there will be a type specialist of each type:

Bug - Gym Leader
Electric - Gym Leader
Fire - Team Star Fire Boss Mela
Grass - Gym Leader Brassius
Normal - Gym Leader
Flying - Elite Four
Ground - Elite Four
Steel - Elite Four
Dragon - Elite Four
Ghost - Gym Leader
Ice - Gym Leader Grusha
Psychic - Gym Leader
Water - Gym Leader

This leaves behind from what I predict based on fan speculation...

Poison - Jacq as his colour theme matches the type and he is a biology teacher too.

Dark - Speculation has it that Geeta specialises in dark type Pokémon. Having said that, I can't imagine the strongest trainer specialising in a type and would assume she has a mixture.

Rock - Star Boss?

Fairy - Star Boss ?

Fighting - PE teacher and Star Boss?

Bearing in mind. Not all the colours of the flags on the Paldea region map matches the remaining types I listed. Minus the red flags which links to Team Star Mela we have left

Purple, Navy Blue, Pink and Yellow flags
 
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Lucky3

Well-Known Member
Yes I am aware. I have played those games multiple times and know how it works. I meant to type 'every other league' had an Elite Four.

What I pointed out was my prediction. If there is an Elite Four, I just can't figure out where they will fit. As I said, it is stated that after beating the gym leaders we gain Champion rank and challenge trainers of those ranks. Considering there is more than one. It might even end up being similar to the SM and USUM layout where the final challenge after the E4 (if there is one) is a random selection of one out of the variety of other champion rank trainers. But then Geeta is mentioned to be strongest of them all which makes it seem like she is the true 'Champion'.


I'm just trying to make links with the leaks where it is stated that there is the region's E4 specialising in ground, Steel, flying and dragon types. And also the other leak which states the Champion is version exclusive in regards to gender.


It is all a bit confusing to me at the moment.
I don't think there has been an actual leak saying the champion is version-exclusive. That was just people making assumptions after both Khu and Kaka basically said 'both' when asked about the champions gender, but it was probably just referring to the fact that there are several champion-rank trainers.

And you don't just become champion by beating all gyms, you have to pass the champion assessment at the Pokemon League headquarters, which sure sounds similar to the classic Pokemon League with E4 and Champion.

So we have several possible definitions of Champion here. First, all the trainers with the champion ranks. Then there's the classic definition of strongest trainer in the region (That's Geeta according to the website). Also whoever you have to fight at the end of the champion assessment. And maybe some final boss after you beat all the three stories, which is the role usually played by the champion. Any of this may overlap.
 

Lord Godwin

The Lord of Darkness
So by looking at the leaks, trailers and fan speculation, it seems that there will be a type specialist of each type:

Bug - Gym Leader
Electric - Gym Leader
Fire - Team Star Fire Boss Mela
Grass - Gym Leader Brassius
Normal - Gym Leader
Flying - Elite Four
Ground - Elite Four
Steel - Elite Four
Dragon - Elite Four
Ghost - Gym Leader
Ice - Gym Leader Grusha
Psychic - Gym Leader
Water - Gym Leader

This leaves behind from what I predict based on fan speculation...

Poison - Jacq as his colour theme matches the type and he is a biology teacher too.

Dark - Speculation has it that Geeta specialises in dark type Pokémon. Having said that, I can't imagine the strongest trainer specialising in a type and would assume she has a mixture.

Rock - Star Boss?

Fairy - Star Boss ?

Fighting - PE teacher and Star Boss?

Bearing in mind. Not all the colours of the flags on the Paldea region map matches the remaining types I listed.
Poison, almost certainly will be used by a Team Star Admin, probably using the Engine Pokemon as their ace.
 

LordSerperior

Well-Known Member
From Khu's poll months ago he hinted about a grass Sudowoodo and a bug Teddiursa. And we just saw grass Sudo
I vaguely remember reading something about a bug Teddiursa but did not think that was about the tera types. That's an interesting way to give gym leaders more diverse Pokemon while also maintaining their specialist types.
 

RileyXY1

Young Battle Trainer
So by looking at the leaks, trailers and fan speculation, it seems that there will be a type specialist of each type:

Bug - Gym Leader
Electric - Gym Leader
Fire - Team Star Fire Boss Mela
Grass - Gym Leader Brassius
Normal - Gym Leader
Flying - Elite Four
Ground - Elite Four
Steel - Elite Four
Dragon - Elite Four
Ghost - Gym Leader
Ice - Gym Leader Grusha
Psychic - Gym Leader
Water - Gym Leader

This leaves behind from what I predict based on fan speculation...

Poison - Jacq as his colour theme matches the type and he is a biology teacher too.

Dark - Speculation has it that Geeta specialises in dark type Pokémon. Having said that, I can't imagine the strongest trainer specialising in a type and would assume she has a mixture.

Rock - Star Boss?

Fairy - Star Boss ?

Fighting - PE teacher and Star Boss?

Bearing in mind. Not all the colours of the flags on the Paldea region map matches the remaining types I listed. Minus the red flags which links to Team Star Mela we have left

Purple, Navy Blue, Pink and Yellow flags
We've had type specialist Champions before. I believe that the Champion will specialize in the one type that isn't represented by a Gym Leader, Elite 4 member, or a Star Boss. Which in this case appears to be Dark.
 

Smeargle-Sketch

Sketcher of Smeargles
Khu rumoured the Star Branch typings are:

Dark
Fairy
Poison
Fire
Fighting

And funnily enough, they are positioned like the actual constellation the team get their namesakes from.
 

Litleonid

Well-Known Member
Khu rumoured the Star Branch typings are:

Dark
Fairy
Poison
Fire
Fighting

And funnily enough, they are positioned like the actual constellation the team get their namesakes from.
I definitely see Poison, Dark, and Fairy. I can see sets of black, purple, and pink flags on the map. We know Mela leads the Fire type squad, but the one issue is there's no reddish brown set of flags. The last set is more yellow and its located in the north east in the bamboo forest area.
 

Smeargle-Sketch

Sketcher of Smeargles
I definitely see Poison, Dark, and Fairy. I can see sets of black, purple, and pink flags on the map. We know Mela leads the Fire type squad, but the one issue is there's no reddish brown set of flags. The last set is more yellow and its located in the north east in the bamboo forest area.
Double checked, they're orange, that's the new fighting type color. It changed by gen 8.
 
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