Rumors & Leaks - Speculation/Discussion Thread

[Smeargle-Sketch]

Anybody know who can learn Triple Dive?

 

[Endless]

Anybody know who can learn Triple Dive?

Wugtrio exclusive.

Do they lift the media ban before release? I feel like in the past Joe was able to begin coverage in the days leading up to game releases but my memory is horrible.

He hasn't really done it since Gen V and I don't expect him to post anything before the games are out in Australia.

 

[Lorphiiforme]

At least you can still trade locally and access Pokemon GO and HOME after service for Sword and Shield ends.

What! Where does service end and how? Can I not use home to transfer my PLA to swsh? I know that we’ll be able to transfer from SWSH (I have sword) to SV in 2023, but what will not be able to transfer from and to?

 

[Wulava]

What! Where does service end and how? Can I not use home to transfer my PLA to swsh? I know that we’ll be able to transfer from SWSH (I have sword) to SV in 2023, but what will not be able to transfer from and to?

There's no such thing. The one ending is Pokemon Bank on March 27, 2023. Well, not really "ending". You can still use it to transfer Pokemon at no cost. Just read this article.

 

[Owynna_Lore]

What! Where does service end and how? Can I not use home to transfer my PLA to swsh? I know that we’ll be able to transfer from SWSH (I have sword) to SV in 2023, but what will not be able to transfer from and to?

I think they worded this badly. They haven't announced the end to servicing Sword/Shield with Home. I think they're ending the themed raids that they had been doing but that's all.

I think what they meant was in the future, if they did drop support for Sword/Shield that we would still have access to our Mons on Home.

 

[Litleonid]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1592277064723619841

Spoiler: story details related to some of Khu's riddles

This is in reference to the theory that the paradoxes are not from the past/future but actually imaginary.
The dubious paranormal magazines referenced in the opposite game's paradox Pokédex entries can actually be found in-game. And Sada/Turo states that they aren't exactly sure where the "time machine" is pulling the Pokémon from. The leading theory I have heard is that Sada/Turo read these magazines, imagined that it was what Pokémon from the past/future actually look like and then the "time machine"/third legendary created these Pokémon.

Its important to note, I believe it was confirmed that Khu's riddles about story only apply to the Chinese version. So they're irrelevant for us. For some absurd reason, time travel stories are banned there for whatever stupid reason.

 

[Acer11]

What! Where does service end and how? Can I not use home to transfer my PLA to swsh? I know that we’ll be able to transfer from SWSH (I have sword) to SV in 2023, but what will not be able to transfer from and to?

I think it's only for Wild Area and Battle competitions. You can still use local battles and trades as well as connect to HOME. It's the same for Let's Go.

 

[Acer11]

Haven't seen this posted yet, so here's some move nerfs:

Ally Switch, Rage Powder, Follow Me - can now fail if used in succession
Grassy Glide - 60 power, down from 70
Wicked Blow - 75 power, down from 80
Glacial Lance - 120 power, down from 130
Recover, Rest, Soft-Boiled, Shore Up, Roost, Slack Off, Milk Drink - 5 PP, down from 10

What about other moves and abilities, like Wide Guard, Magic Bounce, and Astral Barrage?

 

[Game2016]

Its important to note, I believe it was confirmed that Khu's riddles about story only apply to the Chinese version. So they're irrelevant for us. For some absurd reason, time travel stories are banned there for whatever stupid reason.

Except time travel movies still get released in China. They even made their own time travel movie called Hi, Mom in 2021.

 

[Pokemon Fan]

Its important to note, I believe it was confirmed that Khu's riddles about story only apply to the Chinese version. So they're irrelevant for us. For some absurd reason, time travel stories are banned there for whatever stupid reason.

To my knowledge no such confirmation exists, and those playing in English also see that time travel is not a thing. Rather it is presented as a possible explanation for the Paradox Pokemon, only for the AI for the "time machine" to reveal it is not linked to actual different time periods but to "imaginary" eras.

 

[Missingno.Fan]

Stupid question, but is “Paradox pokemon” what they are officially calling these creatures.

 

[Litleonid]

To my knowledge no such confirmation exists, and those playing in English also see that time travel is not a thing. Rather it is presented as a possible explanation for the Paradox Pokemon, only for the AI for the "time machine" to reveal it is not linked to actual different time periods but to "imaginary" eras.

Spoiler

I watched the stream and saw no mention of inaginary eras. The machine AI Sada used was explicitly stated to be used for time travel..

 

[Endless]

Stupid question, but is “Paradox pokemon” what they are officially calling these creatures.

Don't know if there is an official term but they all have "Paradox Pokémon" as their species in the dex.

 

[Pokemon Fan]

I watched the stream and saw no mention of inaginary eras. The machine AI Sada used was explicitly stated to be used for time travel.

We'll just have to see then. What I have heard is that most streamers missed this info somehow. The dex entries certainly seem to support the imagination theory as well.

 

[Litleonid]

We'll just have to see then. What I have heard is that most streamers missed this info somehow. The dex entries certainly seem to support the imagination theory as well.

Spoiler: Spoiler

This is coming from Paradox Suicune's description in the book. Its called an imaginary Pokemon. Researchers speculate whether it exists or not.

 

[Muffin Man]

Is there a list of move tutors in the game? Also, does anyone know if Volt Tackle will be passable with the picnic feature?

 

[Pokemon Fan]

Spoiler: Spoiler

This is coming from Paradox Suicune's description in the book. Its called an imaginary Pokemon. Researchers speculate whether it exists or not.

Not just that. Many of the Paradox Pokemon are stated to resemble creatures that were thought up in paranormal magazines or other fictional stories.

 

[Captain Jigglypuff]

There's no such thing. The one ending is Pokemon Bank on March 27, 2023. Well, not really "ending". You can still use it to transfer Pokemon at no cost. Just read this article.

And this is why I haven’t finished my Home Dex yet to get Original Magerna. I didn’t want to pay for Bank knowing it would become free next year.

 

[Rune Knight]

Just for fun, I did a head count of all of the missing Pokémon that are unavailable in Sw&Sh and will continue to be missing in S&V's base games.

There are 124 that I was able to pinpoint, but it's possible that my count is subject to a degree of error since it is based on data from the leaks and I did it manually. It's also possible that someone on the internet already did this and did it better than me. Regardless, here is the full list:

Spoiler: List of Missing Pokémon Combined

Weedle
Kakuna
Beedrill
Pidgey
Pidgeotto
Pidgeot
Rattata / Alolan Rattata
Raticate / Alolan Raticate
Spearow
Fearow
Ekans
Arbok
Paras
Parasect
Bellsprout
Weepinbell
Victreebell
Geodude / Alolan Geodude
Graveler / Alolan Geodude
Golem / Alolan Golem
Doduo
Dodrio
Seel
Dewgong

Chicorita
Bayleef
Meganium
Totodile
Croconow
Feraligatr
Sentret
Furret
Ledyba
Ledian
Spinarak
Ariados
Aipom
Yanma
Unown
Gligar
Snubbul
Granbull
Smeargle

Poochyena
Mightyena
Wurmple
Silcoon
Beautifly
Cascoon
Dustox
Taillow
Swellow
Skitty
Delcatty
Plusle
Minun
Volbeat
Illumise
Spinda
Keckleon
Shuppet
Banette
Chimecho
Clamperl
Hauntail
Gorebyss
Deoxys

Turtwig
Grotle
Torterra
Chimchar
Monferno
Infernape
Piplup
Prinplup
Empoleon
Bidoof
Bibarel
Cranidos
Rampidos
Shieldon
Bastiodon
Burmy
Wormadam
Mothim
Ambipom
Glameow
Purugly
Chingling
Chatot
Carnivine
Yanmega
Gliscor
Bropopass
Phione
Manaphy
Darkrai
Shaymin

Snivy
Servine
Serperior
Tepig
Pignite
Emboar
Patrat
Watchhog
Pansage
Simisage
Pansear
Simisear
Panpour
Simipour
Blitzle
Zebstrika
Sewaddle
Swadloon
Leavanny
Ducklett
Swanna

Furfrou

Pikipek
Trumbeak
Toucannon
Minior

Even though some of them appeared throughout BD/SP/LA, they weren't in Sw/Sh which acted as the main competitive scene; so I'm personally hoping that we'll see some of them return for future DLC.

Feel free to let me know of any errors that I may have made.

 

[PokeAmi]

I've don't know if I missed it, but has there been any info about any new shiny hunting method in these games?