Skulkraken was the beta name for the English localization, which came after the games were released in Japan. It doesn't really have any connection to Gyarados' early design before the games were finished.
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Rumors & Leaks - Speculation/Discussion Thread
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Kingudora
My favourite
I think Orthworm existed before Okagyarados got removed. Its internal name (MIMIZU; 'earthworm') is listed way before the paradox pokémon and the legendaries, so it had likely been designed early on in development. In my opinion, it was likely designed to be one of the Titan boss fights from the start, much like Klawf.
Toedscool and Toedscruel are among the last in the internal order of pokémon. All the pokémon from Tinkatink to Annihilape were likely designed well under way into development. Those ten pokémon were likely designed to round out the pokédex, like giving story characters signature pokémon etc. In the case of the land Magikarp / Gyarados, they were designed to be thematic counterparts to the Wiglett line.
So ultimately, I think they got reworked into the Toedscool line because the design of Okagyarados was deemed to similar to Orthworm, and may have made Orthworm seem redundant in the Paldea dex.
Julia Artemis
Well-Known Member
I don't know am I the only one that likes Toedscruel? I think it's fun idea and looks interesting. Though disappointed by Wugtrio. At least they should have flipped the attack and special attack stats to make it not just water Dugtrio. Sure Toeds has the same stats too but it's design and typing combo make it feel different enough
Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
I personally think Wugtrio line and Toedscool are really good friends to have.
Captain Jigglypuff
Leader of Jigglypuff Army
I like them. I think they way they differ from the Diglett and Tentacool lines is very interesting.
Tsukuyomi56
Artistic Flair
Personally prefer Toedscruel compared to Wugtrio. While it still resembles Tentacruel its design is a bit more different compared to its convergent counterpart, the Wugtrio line was a bit too much on the nose in conveying it to be a convergent evolution to Diglett/Dugtrio.
falconlord
Well-Known Member
Toedscool scares me. I have memories of dodging Tentacool and Tentacruel all the way back to Red.
I don't look forward to dodging land based ones.
EDIT: this is interesting:
I don't look forward to dodging land based ones.
EDIT: this is interesting:
Pokemon Fan
Knuckle Trainer
Not sure if I'll use it, but I certainly prefer Toedscruel. I've never been a fan of Dugtrio's design, and Wugtrio doesn't improve it.
Though the concept of a land Gyarados does sound cool enough that I hope it makes it to the DLC.
On another note, when did we last have a generation with so few officially revealed pokemon? Here we are a few days before release and only a few dozen of some one hundred new pokemon (including forms) have gotten official reveals. They definitely seem to be doing something different from the last few gens when it comes to their marketing strategy.
It's pretty consistent with SwSh, which had 22 reveals before launch day. SV is at 20.
Julia Artemis
Well-Known Member
I would like to see a Flying/Dragon Gyarados that's literally a flying serpent. Although I did like the idea of a super powerful Magikarp thought that was such a fun idea. Kind of like what they did with Jigglypuff and Delibird
Pokemon Fan
Knuckle Trainer
You mean with wings? Because Legends Arceus confirmed both visually and via a NPC that regular Gyarados are indeed somehow able to fly.
Huh, I thought there was more.
Actually, I'm mistaken. The list I looked at only had new Pokémon. With forms, SwSh is way above that with a few regional variants and 11 Gigantamax forms being revealed beforehand. The actual number should be closer to 40.
SV has only 1 extra form revealed in Paldean Wooper, unless you want to count the Koraidon/Miraidon modes.
Pokemon Power
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I saw that too. I knew it was part Flying-type, but I didn't think it would able to soar like that.
Spider-Phoenix
#ChespinGang
Thanks.
Will those to shiny hunt for Shinx (as I always do in every game which reminds me I haven't finished the SwSh one lol)
Smeargle-Sketch
Sketcher of Smeargles
Pokemon Power
Well-Known Member
Something tells me this thread is gonna be staying active even after launch.
Owynna_Lore
Manners Maketh Man
Water and dreams are linked in some cultures right? So potentially 3rd legendary name? Dreams surfacing with a twist?
Interesting, the third legendary definitely seems to have some water aspects to it although they were not the ones I thought would be important.
This is an image I saw elsewhere:
Honestly I was expecting more of a crystal themed name if this indeed refers to the 3rd legendary, with all the Tera connections and hexagons and all.