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Salamence, Latios, Latias, Excadrill, Haha! I laugh at them!

Mr. BrickaBracka

Once more I live!!
Behold the team that laughs at the common powerhouses. Looking for feedback, and a replacement for Heatran. A support replacement.

Okay, as nobody of the 45 views has replied at all, I'm gonna assume it's because it's so long. So, I've shortened my team to the minimal of words. changes in bold.
Vizirion @ Lum Berry
. Leaf Blade
.Swords Dance
.Hidden Power (Ice)
.Close Combat
Naive/4Hp/252Atk/252Spe/Justified

my physical sweeper. Close combat OHKOs Excadrill even without a SD. Lum Berry to prevent status. HP(Ice) for Gliscor switch-ins.

Thundurus @ Life Orb
. Thunderbolt/Thunder(If Jellicent has Rain Dance)
. Hidden Power (Ice)
. Hammer Arm
. Nasty Plot/Taunt
Naive/32Atk/244SpA/252Spe/Prankster

My Special sweeper with Hammer Arm. Still haven't decided between nasty plot or taunt. Bolt-Beam coverage = awesome.

Escavalier @ Choice Band
. Megahorn
. Pursuit
. Return
. Knock Off
Adamant/248Hp/252Atk/4SpD/4Spe/Swarm

My Latios, Latias, Reuniclus, Wobboffet, and Starmie counter, which are common Vizirion counters. Plus Choice Megahorn murders a lot of stuff, resisted or not.

Jirachi @ Light Clay
. U-Turn
. Reflect
. Wish
. Light Screen
Careful/252Hp/100Def/156SpD/Serene Grace

My Wish/Screen support. Also a physical wall of sorts. the lack of speed makes it fairly easy to use U-Turn to pass wishes unscathed.

Jellicent @ Leftovers
. Surf/Scald
. Will-o-wisp/Rain Dance
. Recover
. Ice Beam
Bold/248H9/216Def/44SpD/Water Absorb

My bulky water, and special wall. Also burn infliction. Thinking about Rain Dance as it helps a lot of my other pokemon. Plus it helps counter Excadrill as it hates the loss of Sandstorm, and Scald is a OHKO in rain.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf/Life Orb/Air Balloon
. Overheat
. Flamethrower
. Earth Power
. Stealth Rock
Timid/252SpA/4SpD/252Spe/Flash Fire

Fire absorber, as half the team is weak to it. Looking for any kind of replacement that makes this a more viable rain dance abusing team. Something that sets up entry hazards.

That's it. This is pretty much my first RMT post so be critical. Also sorry if the descriptions are kinda long.
 
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Psycho Cut

Well-Known Member
Behold the team that laughs at the common powerhouses. Looking for feedback, and a replacement for Heatran. A support replacement.

Okay, as nobody of the 45 views has replied at all, I'm gonna assume it's because it's so long. So, I've shortened my team to the minimal of words. changes in bold.
Vizirion @ Lum Berry
. Leaf Blade
.Swords Dance
.Stone Edge
.Close Combat
Jolly/4Hp/252Atk/252Spe/Justified

my physical sweeper. Close combat OHKOs Excadrill even without a SD. Lum Berry to prevent status. HP(Ice) for Gliscor switch-ins.
Mixed virizion doesn't really work

Thundurus @ Life Orb
. Thunderbolt/Thunder(If Jellicent has Rain Dance)
. Hidden Power (Ice)
. Taunt
. Nasty Plot
Timid. 252 Sp.Atk, 4 HP/252Spe/Prankster

My Special sweeper with Hammer Arm. Still haven't decided between nasty plot or taunt. Bolt-Bem coverage = awesome.
Hammer Arm on thundurus? No, no, no!

Escavalier @ Choice Band
. Megahorn
. Pursuit
. Return
. Knock Off/Reversal
Adamant/248Hp/252Atk/4SpD/4Spe/Swarm

My Latios, Latias, Reuniclus, Wobboffet, and Starmie counter, which are common Vizirion counters. Plus Choice Megahorn murders a lot of stuff, reisted or not.
Good

Jirachi @ Light Clay
. U-Turn
. Reflect
. Wish
. Light Screen
Careful/252Hp/100Def/156SpD/Serene Grace

My Wish/Screen support. Also a physical wall of sorts. the lack of speed makes it fairly easy to use U-Turn to pass wishes unscathed.
There are much better pokemon you can use to set up screens (Bronzong, for example), Jirachi works best as haxraichi

Jellicent @ Leftovers
. Surf/Scald
. Will-o-wisp
. Recover
. Ice Beam
Bold/248H9/216Def/44SpD/Water Absorb

My bulky water, and special wall. Also burn infliction. Thinking about Rain Dance as it helps a lot of my other pokemon. Plus it helps counter Excadrill as it hates the loss of Sandstorm, and Scald is a OHKO in rain.
I have little experience with Jellicent, so I can't comment much, but it looks pretty good

Heatran @ Air Balloon
. Flame Charge.
. Flamethrower
. Earth Power
. Stealth Rock
Modest/252SpA/4SpD/252Spe/Flash Fire

Fire absorber, as half the team is weak to it. Looking for any kind of replacement that makes this a more viable rain dance abusing team. Something that sets up entry hazards.
If you're looking to sweep, flame charge is your best bet. Scarf doesn't really work with SR. Iirc, with one flame charge you have adequate speed to outspeed most things, even if your nature is modest.


That's it. This is pretty much my first RMT post so be critical. Also sorry if the descriptions are kinda long.
Changes in bold. Reasons for changes in bold and italics
 

Mr. BrickaBracka

Once more I live!!
your right about stone edge and hammer arm. I think I was over-thinking it. The heatran looks good. I thought about bronzong when I made the team, but wish was the original goal and screens just kinda add support. Although, the team does function much better with screens. I'm not sure wish is even necessary with them.
 

Mr. BrickaBracka

Once more I live!!
Does the paraflinch or an offensive Jirachi counter latias, latios, reuniclus, and starmie as well as escavalier? If it did, I could have jirachi and a better screener like cresselia take escal's place right? in theory? I haven't give it much thought...
 
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