Actually, quite the contary, they are classified as a hate group, not a church.
Who says you can't be both? You? Because newsflash: You don't get to define what is and isn't a church.
You can believe that because they are officially classified business wise.
I want you to do me a favor. Go to Google and type in "define:church". See what comes up. Omit everything that doesn't relate to the word church in the religious sense. Now tell me which of the definitions on that page do not fit the Westboro Baptist Church.
Like your going to though, as nobody as hard headed as you is going to listen.
That's right, keep throwing insults at your opponents, you look totally mature, level-headed, open-minded, and reasonable when you\re calling people names.
Because for how many gay couples I've seen, and the fact that they seem to think that its ok to kiss and utterly and sexually touch in public while theres kids around, I will not stand there and give in to people who utterly whine and ***** about how they don't get this and that.
Of course, when you see one couple do this (and I doubt you ever saw even one couple do this), it means all gay couples must do exactly the same thing. And therefore we can deny marriage to all gays because this one couple you totally saw in a park or something decided to have a quick peck on the cheek.
They sit there and complain about the fact that they don't have rights, when they do, just not the permission to mary yet.
Or serve openly in the military. Or hold down a job without fear of being fired for their orientation. Or have equal medical benefits. Or donate blood. Or file taxes jointly. Or be openly gay without fear of some crazy religious fundie screaming "YOU GOIN'TA HELL" at best or being beaten at worst.
I see it as this:
As long as they don't understand the concept of : GET A ROOM, they can live without marrage in my book.
And by "they", you mean the two gays you saw in the park, right? As long as those two don't know how to do it in private, all gays must not have equal rights!
You make no sense. You're constantly telling me the WBC does not represent all Christians, yet somehow feel it's entirely reasonable to judge all gays on the actions of two people you (probably didn't) see in the park who were making out (read: probably just pecking each other on the cheek). Do you not see the absolute hypocrisy in this, or do you just not care?
Right yeah, but heterosexual couples seem to grasp the subject better.
I'm not letting you forget that you said you don't generalize, because at this point you've generalized more than anyone else in this thread. This just adds on to the large list of generalizations you insist you haven't made.
Maybe the reason it seems like more heterosexuals grasp this concept is because you're used to heterosexual relationships, so when they do it you generally don't pay attention, and when you see a homosexual couple does the same thing you notice it more because you're not used to it.
Or maybe you're just a stereotyping hypocrite.
However, how come when ever authorities tell them to stop, they pull a hissy fit?
And you know they do because...?
Which most gay people I've met are arogant tards.
Sweet. Many Christians I know are arrogant, self-righteous bigots. What does this mean? Go ahead, tell me, then apply the answer to what you just said.
They seem not o care about how I'm treated, but somehow the world revolves around them.
"How you're being treated"? How are you being treated? Compare it to them.
I honestly can't believe you have the ****ing unmitigated gall to suggest you're the persecuted one here.
I'm not discriminatiing in any way.
Which most gay people I've met are arogant tards.
As long as they don't understand the concept of : GET A ROOM, they can live without marrage in my book.
Doesn't your book have a commandment against lying?
Your point is null for reasons that have already been addressed. You are not debating. You're rehashing the same old arguments and screaming insults at people who have the nerve to dispute your arguments.
And if you people can't take that, I cannot see how people in real life put up with you.
I could easily say the same about you.
Oh, I see, so you only use the 'its not a choice' argument when it pertains to homosexuals.
Nobody ever said pedophilia was a choice. Quit putting words in our mouths.
Too bad that pedophiles will argue the same point about themselves and children.
Maybe they could try, but hey, they still have to deal with the fact that they're screwing kids who can't fully grasp the concept and consequences of driving, let alone sex. Also, studies (and common sense) show that kids can be affected negatively mentally by sex at a young age.
And, just like you, they'll use faulty science to prove that they can't help being kiddy fiddlers.
Who cares if they can't help it? Someone's still getting hurt in a pedophilic relationship. And - surprise! - that's not the case with gay relationships. Imagine that.
Also, please point out how our science is faulty.
As for consent, thats why pedophiles are trying to lower the age of consent. So that children can say yes, which is just as disturbing as a gay rights bill passing in my state.
Of course, there's still that whole matter of common sense and psychological studies that show that lowering the age of consent to 10 or whatever the hell you think they're trying to lower it to would be a really bad idea for the child's mental health. Just because some obscure person or group is trying to lower the age of consent doesn't mean that it's actually right, and before you try to say the same thing about gay rights, it doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong either. All it means is that someone's trying to change the way things are.
And even assuming they did pass the lowering of the age of consent, that means little. A child can say yes to anything, but that doesn't mean they know what they're saying yes to, and it doesn't mean they know the consequences of saying yes.
Because when they manage to pass that law that lowers the age of consent to 16, 14, even 10, it will be a sad day in the world, knowing all morals have been thrown out the window.
You're right. However, that really doesn't mean much, because the pedophile advocates don't really have any real backing or grounds for what they want. What exactly is your logic here? That the age of consent isn't important because someone's trying to change it? Well, guess what, that really doesn't mean anything, because there's still far more reasons to not lower the age of consent than there are to lower it.
I'd also like to ask why I can't apply this same logic to straight marriage. Why is it that, in your mind, if we allow straight marriage, we do not therefore have to allow pedophilia, but we do if we allow gay marriage? What is so different between the two that means pedophilia would be viable if gay marriage was accepted, but not if only straight marriage was accepted? In short, why does the slippery slope only go in the direction that supports your view?
So yeah, the whole pedophile argument isn't a joke. Pedophiles and gays are about on the same level.
No, they're not, and you ****ing know it. Cut this slippery slope ******** right the hell out, because it's starting to genuinely piss me off that you seriously can't see the difference between two consenting adults with the same privates wanting to be together, and a full-grown adult ****ing an eight-year-old who doesn't understand the concept and can't give informed consent on what they're getting into. At least when Zeno, ShinySandshrew, and TFP tried this argument, they were smart enough to drop it when we showed that it was
completely goddamn wrong. While I salute you for the accomplishment of being more stubborn than Zeno and sgt., if all you can do is try desperately to rehash the same old argument (and fail every single damned time),
you have lost the debate. Homosexuality does not equate to pedophilia. Homosexuality does not equate to bestiality. Homosexuality does not equate to necrophilia. You have been given the reasons why, and every single ****ing time someone brings them up you shuffle them under the rug and pretend no one ever said a thing. Debates do not work like that, John, and neither does reality.
So cut this **** out. At this point, the only reason you have to compare homosexuality to pedophilia is willful ignorance.