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Same-sex marriage and gay rights in general: Yes or No?

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by Chozo Tiger, May 24, 2010.

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Your stance on gay marriage and gay rights?

  1. Same-sex marriage; Gay rights all the way.

    75.1%
  2. I support civil unions, not marriage; Gay rights all the way.

    7.6%
  3. Not civil unions nor marriage; Gay rights all the way.

    1.8%
  4. Not civil unions nor marriage; Against gay rights.

    7.3%
  5. Homosexual activity of any kind should be punishable by law

    8.2%
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  1. iColorfulEevee

    iColorfulEevee Lalalala~✰

    I wasn't aware of all the men and women that get raped by straight women and men were consenting. Must have slipped my mind.

    Dear lord, rapists aren't exclusive to any sexual orientation, fetish, or disorder( in the case of pedophiles ).

    As long as you call gays "offensive" she can call you darling, sweetie~~

    Well, almost everyone I know thinks that gay marriage is NOT a joke. Oh and by the by, by your logic, so is racial equality. ;3

    I'm gay too *gasp* !! Please explain, how am I "offending" you because I'm not the one comparing people to murderers and pedophiles. Also, if you haven't realized yet, it is not a decision sweetie~~

    No actually he is right, because your last statement crossed the line from an intelligent debate to "jackassery" as he said. ^^



    EDIT: As SunnyC said, Ethan, you have reached a new level of respect. c:
     
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  2. John13wb

    John13wb Earthbound Hero

    You mean its the same line everyone has been crossing when they repeatedly decimate Christians with some of the worst things I've ever heard? Haven't seen them get any sort of warning. Hmm.

    Yeah, Carlisie, doing terribly in high school. In fact, I'm doing so terribly that I'm taking college classes in a post-secondary course at a branch college this coming senior year at high school. Maybe you should ask before you insult my intelligence like everyone else has.
     
  3. Antiyonder

    Antiyonder Well-Known Member

    Saying that all homosexuals are rapists or are horny is just like saying that all black men commit theft. But then you're probably the type of person to judge someone by their sexuality and race, right?

    It's funny. If a heterosexual person commits rape, that persons sexuality isn't attacked. But if a homosexual person commits rape, the focus isn't on the rape, but his/her sexuality.

    Once again double standards are invalid the minute you state them
     
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  4. Juputoru

    Juputoru M-m-m-m-onobear?!

    That's one really sad thing I've found about Christianity. 99% of the sex-negative crap(including anti-homosexual verses) in the Bible is either Paul's fault or the fault of Old Testament laws that were supposed to have been rendered invalid when Jesus swung by. Apparently it's too much to ask that people pay more attention to the words of their Lord and savior than anything else in their holy book.


    Prison rape(and rape in general) isn't about sexuality. It's about power. Which means that - guess what - not all same-sex rapes are committed by homosexuals. In fact, most prison rapes are committed by heterosexuals; gay prisoners are more likely to be victims than perpetrators. (a source, for those who are curious)

    No, it would just prove that you're incapable of debating civilly.

    Point out where people are bashing Christians as much as you're flaming gays(har dee har har) without being reprimanded for it and SPPf's friendly moderator staff will gladly deal with the problem, if there actually is one. Which I doubt there is, but you never know.
     
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  5. Alli

    Alli Well-Known Member

    It is rude to ignore other peoples stands in an argument, John13wb. Also, most of the Bible-haters in this thread have gotten warnings. They have been asked to stop the flaming and rather debate peacefully. So have you.
     
  6. Carlisle

    Carlisle BAM

    I've seen Ethan stand up for Christians and the arguments thrown against them many times.

    I'd sarcastically tell you that I'm impressed, but I don't want to make this topic go off the cliff.
     
  7. Fused

    Fused Shun the nonbeliever

    I wasn't aware that all people in prison were gay. Interesting... Source? Didn't think so.

    I'm really about to give up on you. Yeah, I can go off on diatribes at ShinySandshrew or TFP, but you know what, I still respect them. You obviously don't, since you'd be damned if you cared about what you say, about the people you offend, which I must say, by comparing gays to child abusers, saying that rapists in prison are the same as gays, saying that our equality is nothing but a ****ing joke on a cancelled FOX sitcom, you're doing a fantastic job at offending people. I hope you don't consider yourself religious, because if you do you may want to try for some remorse early on.

    And you being a **** really offends me. Maybe you shouldn't ignore all of our arguments and sources saying thats exuality isn't a choice.

    Um... he's the one with the power. Why the **** should he care? Why would he be insecure?

    The real questions is this: if we were truly flaming them like you are us, were we doing it simply because they're Christian?

    While they were from the last debate on homosexuality, Ethan has given me several warnings for being rude to people, so please, don't assume false conclusions in the hopes it'll make someone look bad because the only who ends up looking bad is you.
     
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  8. 7 tyranitars

    7 tyranitars Well-Known Member

    there are lots of straight couple who do that to aswell why shouldn't we let gay people, you sound like a spoilled kid 'ew i don't like it please ban it'

    nah pedophiles are people with a problem they can be helped with gay people are people without a problem and trying to help them will only result in a messed up person, because they can't express who they really are.

    gratz you just used an excuse of a 10 year old while you said you are inteligent
    anyway it means you can't debate like a normal person.

    they aren't they just like the power

    if you think it is so horible just think about what you say about gay people and compare it

    anyway: john you just lowered yourself to the level of no respect you seem to be a
    very arrogant person even when it is about 7,8,9,10? atleast a lot against one you still
    don't seem to change your point of few ok that don't necersly have to but the way you
    do, it is just sad if it where 10 against me I would have admit defeat, and as
    someon already said you shouldn't TALK ABOUT morals because
    in my point of view you don't have any morals.
     
  9. GhostAnime

    GhostAnime Searching for her...

    lol John is that offended by gays but yet he said he didn't believe in God in the other topic? i don't buy that at all.
     
  10. Vermehlo_Steele

    Vermehlo_Steele Grand Arbiter II

    Maybe John is angry 'cause he's gay himself; yet he, being raised a homophobe, can't cope with this discovery and has become violent and crude, lashing out to hide his insecurities; insecurities of being what he was raised to hate.
     
  11. GaZsTiC

    GaZsTiC Alternating

    Makes sense. Bullies have usually been victims of bullying themselves. Clearly, John is confused. He needs help.
     
  12. Zenotwapal

    Zenotwapal have a drink on me

    Have Fused and JT here gotten warnings?
    I think not, since they continue to slam down the Bible just because they don't agree with it.
    It's kind of sad that while I can't base my arguement off my opinion, while they can?
    ( at least in the real world I'm not the minority)
    Steele, you know you practically just trilled John here, right?
     
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  13. GaZsTiC

    GaZsTiC Alternating

    Your problem, sir, is that you see the world in black and white. You see the people just like you and then everyone else who is different.
     
  14. Alli

    Alli Well-Known Member

    It would help your case if you would actually pay attention to all posts made. There is also a huge difference in bashing someone who has done you harm, than bashing someone who has never done anything to you.

    I do not say that it is okay to bash the Bible. I would prefer if they did not. But there are very few posts here which is "slamming down the Bible". Most of the posts are arguments against some of its errors (which again can be argumented against), and that is not by any means the same as the harassment and the cruelty John13wb has shown.
     
  15. Zenotwapal

    Zenotwapal have a drink on me

    Nah, I'm just a little peeved that you think you know me, and that people are free to bash the Bilbe and religion in general.

    I respect everyone in real life, its just when they can't do the same I can't keep doing it. And this is exactly what's happening here.
     
  16. Alli

    Alli Well-Known Member

    When did I every claim to know you? I also support you when it comes to the bashing of the Bible, so why were you quoting me?
     
  17. Zenotwapal

    Zenotwapal have a drink on me

    I was direecting that at galaztic, im sorry.
    my iPod keeps screwing up on me didnt mean to quote your post.
     
  18. Alli

    Alli Well-Known Member

    Then all is well.
     
  19. GhostAnime

    GhostAnime Searching for her...

    you also think you know homosexuals apparently..

    probably because the bible isn't a good argument.
     
  20. Fused

    Fused Shun the nonbeliever

    Yes, I openly admitted it like three posts ago.

    There's a difference between slamming the Bible and arguing against it. If we use your opinions, everyone in this thread should have been banned for slamming everyone else in the thread. Again, there's a difference between slamming and arguing. Don't twist the truth just because you don't like us.

    Who told you that you can't? You can, just be prepared for it to get torn to shreds.

    Uncalled for...?

    Boo hoo. Nobody's bashing the Bible. None has ever said "THE BIBLE IS THE WORST PIECE OF GARBAGE EVER TO BE WRITTEN AND THE ONLY REASON I FEEL THAT WAY IS NOT BY ARGUMENT BUT BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!!!"

    ...respect...? Oh, is that when you say stuff like:

    and then finally:

    Yes, you are SOOOOOO respectful.
     
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