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Same-sex marriage and gay rights in general: Yes or No?

Discussion in 'Debate Forum' started by Chozo Tiger, May 24, 2010.

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Your stance on gay marriage and gay rights?

  1. Same-sex marriage; Gay rights all the way.

    75.1%
  2. I support civil unions, not marriage; Gay rights all the way.

    7.6%
  3. Not civil unions nor marriage; Gay rights all the way.

    1.8%
  4. Not civil unions nor marriage; Against gay rights.

    7.3%
  5. Homosexual activity of any kind should be punishable by law

    8.2%
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  1. J.T.

    J.T. ಠ_ಠ

    Boy, there are a lot of points flying overhead these days, aren't there? Must be migration time.

    I never said you were racist. You said
    which I said was a load of ****, because bigot is not a synonym for racist. You're acting like you can't be a bigot because you only hate gays, not people of different races. That's not how the word bigot works.

    Yeah, this is one of those topics.

    If the only part of the thread that you read is Zenotwapal's "BAAAW I'M BEING PERSECUTED" posts, then it may well seem that way (and earning your pity is exactly why Zeno acts that way), but in reality no one here is doing that at all. Hell, several people on the pro-gay side (me included) agree on the idea that gay pride parades are somewhat disturbing. We're not calling anyone terrible people for disliking aspects associated with homosexuality. We're showing people why their preconceived views on homosexuality have no bearing on whether or not they deserve equal rights.

    I agree with you, which is why I don't do that, and why I call out people who do even if they're on my side. Unfortunately, throughout this thread, it seems to be more the gay-rights opponents who do such things.

    This wouldn't be much of a debate forum if we did that.

    The problem is, people do react in a negative way because of those views. Look no further than Matthew Shepard to get an example of that, or the passing of such acts and laws as DOMA, DADT, and Prop 8. That's why this is such a heated topic.
     
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  2. smellaby

    smellaby Member

    oops i think i have just learnt a lesson, new to the site, didnt see bit at the top which said "Debate Forum", just saw the thread as it was having alot of replies...thread makes abit more sense now lol
     
  3. Antiyonder

    Antiyonder Well-Known Member

    And I do apoligze if my comments seem to be harsh, but a big part of the problem is that the posters against gay rights don't really take the debates seriously.

    A big part of the problem is that their reasons tend to be hypocritical. For example:

    1. Homosexuality isn't natural, therefore it's wrong: The problem with this argument is that people embrace many things not natural. Or at the very least look the other way.

    For instance, plastic surgery certainly isn't natural, so why don't those against hmosexuality protest against it?

    2. Gay couples can't have kids: The problem with this argument is that vasectomized couples can't have kids either, yet no one is looking to deny them marriage. And yes some heterosexual couples go out of the way to avoid having kids, so why aren't those couples denied marriage?


    I could go on, but I hope you see my point. Whenever I submit these responses to the arguments in question, the response is conveniently ignored.

    Then there's the faulty comparison to murder and rape. But homosexual relationships are based off consent or to put it another way, the people involved chose their relationship. Rape and murder on the other hand lack consent and cause one to be victimized.

    And considering that TheFightingPikachu even voted that homosexuals should be punished (death likely being the punishment) can you really blame us for being less pleasant?
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2010
  4. Ethan

    Ethan Banned

    Holla,

    I'm going to close this and remake it myself later. No ones in trouble, it would just be nice to have a cleaner thread for debate. All the quote walls are getting on my nerves.

    So sit tight.
     
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