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Satoshi's Water Powerhouse

Discussion in 'Animé Spoilers' started by LexSuicune, Aug 26, 2010.

  1. Coke

    Coke Member

    All you lot a saying Buizel is weak, but you are not giving any grounds to the argument. Trust me in the UK Battle Dimension was the only season shown for like a year, Buizel was DEFINATELY Ash's sinnoh powerhouse at that time. He has a 'fighting' personality. Just watch his debut episode. All you are saying is Buizel died off after the 5th gym, yet you are completely forgetting how awesome he was beforehand. Yes he started to fall behind but he still did very well he was the one that had to face Ursaring and Drapion first and he still put up a good fight.(despite recieving damage beforehand) Buizel was obviously chosen for the Mr Mime episode beacuase he IS a strong pokemon. He very EASILY beat Paul's Gastrodon and Ash constantly sents him out in battles against TR. I respect your opinions but calling Buizel 'weak' is just a bit stupid.

    I respect your opinions and that, but I just thing that there is so MUCH Buizel hate just because he lost to a Steelix. What other real losses(ones where he shouldn't have lost) has he had Kenny's Empoleon? I think that's it.
     
  2. Elxar

    Elxar Well-Known Member

    I'd say all are equal since all of them have their strong points individually. But I'd say Squirtle edges them in experience making him the most reliable one. Otherwise Ash would have never recalled him during some of his most important battles.
     
  3. xex

    xex Banned

    MrMat,wrong you won't be like if you don't shut the hell up and you are a nobody,Corphish was a good battler but he wasn't a powerhouse in Hoenn and the battle Corphish had with Tucker isn't a great example,because any of Ash's Pokemon cloud have beaten Tucker and it don't prove that Corphish is the strongest because he isn't at all the strongest,boy you need to know what you are talking about because you are full of it.
     
  4. BlueVapor

    BlueVapor Well-Known Member

    Erm, I said Squirtle is tied for strongest, along with Corphish. ? If you don't believe Corphish is strong, go take a look at AG.

    And as for Totodile, my facts are correct, yours on the other hand are a little iffy. Totodile is probably Ash's weakest Pokemon yet, and if you disagree go find me battles where it battled and won. All of Ash's other water Pokemon did MUCH better.

    So, stop being delusional, and learn to accept people's opinions.
     
  5. LexSuicune

    LexSuicune Feraligatr Master

    To be quite honest, the fact Totodile wasn't featured in many battles doesn't mean he's his weakes Pokemon yet.
     
  6. GalladeRocks

    GalladeRocks Son of a Beach

    Out of all of Ash's Water Pokemon, I think the most powerful is obviously Squirtle. Buizel and Corphish are about even in power, but I'd about put Buizel first. Then Totodile would be last. I'm not really sure where to fit Kingler in there, considering that we've only seen it in three battles. It kicked butt back at the Indigo League, but it's hard to compare it to his newer ones like Corphish and Buizel.
     
  7. Ash-kid

    Ash-kid Ash-kid

    Squitle is stronger than Totodile, with that I agree. Since Buizel has shown its power in the 3rd and the 4th gym, how much it is strong, I won't say it's weaker than Squitle. Maybe they're in the same power, but Squirle has more experience. Lapras and Kingler and strong too, but the size isn't determine everything.
     
  8. Navin

    Navin MALDREAD

    First off, learn how to form proper sentences! It's a very useful trick you might need in real life :)

    Second, do you have anger-management problems or need mental help? One of my good friend's dad is a psychiatrist, and he could really help you out. I'll message you his number!
     
  9. Nostalgic Hybrid

    Nostalgic Hybrid Judged By Username

  10. ~-Overheat-~

    ~-Overheat-~ Black/White!

    Buizel and Corphish are even imo. Squirtle maybe edges them out a bit...
     
  11. BM14murph

    BM14murph Master Collector

    Hmm IMO this is how it is

    Squirtle
    Buizel/ Corphish
    Kingler
    Totodile
     
  12. arceus7

    arceus7 Arcane Of The Wild

  13. RWB

    RWB Dragon busted by Her

    Sadly, that makes him less impressive.

    League contestants>5th Gym Leader. 6th, 7th, 8th Gym Leader>5th Gym Leader.

    Corphish decimated the League(Defeating 7 Pokemon total) and was pretty destructive in the Battle Frontier.

    Squirtle defeated Battle Frontier enemies as well, and has won Ash some neat league fights. On paper, it's still far below Corphish and Kingler.

    Kingler swept a league member and has no negative fights on his paper- he always walks away with a win.
    For all that we know, it beat two members of Pete Pebblemans team as well.
    His third and final match was vs Misty in the Whirl Cup, where he annihilated Poliwhirl, but was beaten by Psyduck because Ash, like a complete moron, had Kingler clamp Psyduck's head. Otherwise, he'd have beaten two there as well.

    Totodile got crushed by Misty's Poliwhirl. The very same one that Kingler massacred.

    Buizel really only has Paul's Gastrodon, which doesn't measure up.


    Kingler has the best results, but is underused, so it's hard to tell if he is the strongest.



    Yes he started to fall behind but he still did very well he was the one that had to face Ursaring and Drapion first and he still put up a good fight.[/QUOTE]

    Ursaring wrecked him, and so did Drapion.




    Nobody is saying Buizel is weak. We're simply saying he's not as strong as Ash's other Water Pokemon.




    Based purely on their Battle results, Kingler dominates.
    Participated in two 3 on 3's and one 2 on 2 total, and all but one was in the Pokemon League.

    Defeated a minimum of five opponents, might be six. And disregarding Ash's stupidity, seven, out of eight.

    Ash hasn't another mon with such good numbers.

    The final one fought Kingler who was already weakened, and confused it with Dragon Rage(lol wtf?), but Ash could have sent it back in had Pikachu lost.


    Kingler has only been KO'd in battle once, and only by HEADACHE EX MACHINA.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2010
  14. niedude

    niedude Don't forget to grin

    Squirtle is the most powerful that also is reliable. He has a good balance of high health, very good offense and very good defense. Sadly, predictable movepool second only to Buizel's. Im not even gonna call Totodile's Water Gun rape a move pool.

    That + Kanto Pokemon Power-Up pretty much sums it up. Very good and reliable pokemon.

    Buizel has speed and reflexes, and the lucky trait to have it start to rain in order for his ability to activate, but besides his plotspeed, the build up we got that he was gonna be Ashs most powerful Sinnoh pokemon when he was introduced quickly crumbled after his Lucario match.


    Totodile is, in my not-really-informed opinion, one of Ash's weakest pokemon ever. How many wins does he have that don't involve some sort of comical relief?
    One. Sneasel.
    And he used a technique he cant even learn, Skull Bash, but thats beside the point.

    Kingler has God Power. Its the only pokemon Ash has had to sweep a team, and that of a League contender even. One of Ash's best powerhouses, period.

    Corphish is one of Ash's best pokemon. The little guy just doesnt go down, at all. That and his high attack make him capable of being in, at least, Ashs Top 10 Pokemon.

    So, Powerhouse?

    Before this post, Id have said Squirtle and Kingler.
    Now, I say any one of them that doesnt go from hyped up contender to fall guy and who can do more than dance and vomit water at high velocities. With the occasional powered up headbut...

    Though dont get me wrong, Buizel can be a very good pokemon.
    I just feel that his potential capped too early... And if his speed doesnt save him, or the odd combination attack of Aqua Jet + w/e, or his ability after God Himself decided to make it rain after a crack in the roof most fortuitously appeared, nothing will.
     
  15. arceus7

    arceus7 Arcane Of The Wild

    qouting locormus
    Since Mijumaru's Shell comes off, and since he physically uses it for its Shell Blade attack, and since Mijumaru's evolution has two shells on his body, will Mijumaru's evolution use both shells for a 'double' Shell Blade? As in fight with two blades?
     
  16. thunderblade12

    thunderblade12 Well-Known Member

    I have a feeling Mijumaru will end up evolving to it's final stage and becoming the Charizard/Infernape and Sceptile of Ash's Water pokemon. Reducing Squirtle to where Bulbasaur was at in the hierarchy after Sceptile showed up.
     
  17. LexSuicune

    LexSuicune Feraligatr Master

  18. DracoMaster121

    DracoMaster121 Strategy Trainer

    I think either Kingler or Corphish would be his strongest.
    Corphish is already a beast and it may evolve in the future to become even stronger.
    Kingler is already really powerful and it knows Hyper Beam.
     
  19. xex

    xex Banned

    BlueVapor,Squirtle is the strongest and for the last damn time Corphish is not the strongest even in the AG series,your facts are not correct at all and it shows how stupid you really is,Totodile is strong and he is and never was the weakest for that matter,all of Ash's other water types didn't do much better then Totodile who had some of the best battles ever and i see that you are really stupid to even talk to.

    You need to shut up and stop being delusional,learn to accept that your opinions are not facts mister retarded since that is what you is anyways.

    LexSuicune,to be honest my ***,you are really damn mental retarded,Totodile was in a lot of battles and he was never the weakest to begin with,Totodile is strong shut up and deal with it.

    Ash-Kid,Squirtle and Totodile are both stronger then Corphish and boy you are dumb no doubt about it,Kingler is strong but he is not a powerhouse and Lapras wasn't strong to start with.

    MaldRead,Wrong you need to learn how to do proper sentences yourself,because i already no how to do them and it can help a retard like you in real life,i don't have anger management problems and i don't need mental help but you sure do,you should ask your dad's friend the psychiatrist to help you out because you really need it.

    BM14murph,wrong this is how it is.

    Squirtle/Totodile
    Kingler
    Buizel
    Corphish

    RWB,learn to get your facts right you dumb retarded loser ***,Totodile did really well agianst Misty's Poliwhirl even though he lost due to Ash being stupid and he almost and Kingler did not massacred Poliwhirl, all it did is beat it due to Totodile helping out,Buizel is stronger then Corphish by a long shot.

    Niedude,your opinions are not facts and just because you said Totodile is the weakest does not make it true you stupid retarded noob,Totodile was never Ash's weakest water type and Totodile is a strong Pokemon and you need to deal with it you dumbass,Kingler don't have god powers and he isn't a powerhouse,but Kingler is a very strong Pokemon even more stronger then Corphish,but Squirtle is a god of all water types even Corphish can't beat him despit being strong,Buizel is a water type powerhouse of Ash's Sinnoh team.

    LexSuicune,Kingler isn't a beast you retarded nut,but Kingler is a really strong pokemon and he kick *** at the Indigo League.

    Boy the noobs of this site are nothing more but retarded *** loser's.
     
  20. RWB

    RWB Dragon busted by Her

    There is literally nothing putting Squirtle ahead of Corphish, espescially not in AG. Corphish did far better there than Squirtle.



    Totodile has gotten beat with ease very many times. Kingler annihilated a pokémon that dominated Totodile with hilarious ease.

    Ad Hominem. I'll report this post.



    ...This is just a sheer personal assault. Can't you get banned for this?

    Hilarious. There's no way you can ever back that up. Corphish's league destruction alone trumphs everything Totodile or Buizel ever did, and arguably anything Squirtle ever did as well.


    Totodile did not do well vs Poliwhirl- I watched the episode TODAY. And yes, Kingler DID massacre Poliwhirl, crushing through it's attacks and swiftly defeating it.

    Also, Ad hominem.
     

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