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Season System

ArrEmmDee

Well-Known Member
Eh, I have time to think about things when I'm delivering the newspaper. They'll get better now that I have something to focus my thoughtprocesses into other than plots to kill people---ahahahaha oh dear if it wasn't illegal I'd be such an axe-murderer or something


In addition to day and night's return, how about a season system? This's for sure been mentioned 5000 times before and probably simultaneously 10 times before, but you know. If I remember correctly, there was a Japan-exclusive version of Animal Crossing on the N64, and that was heavily calendar based-- this may as well be too-- I don't think it'd be too much of a memory issue, unless it's overcomplicated.

Basic idea; for some people, completing the Pokédex, especially in this instance, might just be an issue of trading over R/S/E/FR/LG/Colo/XD, getting some new prevo's, maybe trade with the other version--yeah it's a lot, but in the big picture aside from Mew, Celebi, Jirachi, and Deoxys, it's not too difficult a task, and can sometimes be done in a matter of a week or two, depending on respective game statuses. A seasonal system's main purpose would be to prolong the time it would take to complete the Pokédex-- some Pokémon only catchable in spring, some only in summer, some only in fall, winter-- if the game came out in fall in Japan, nobody there would be legally able to complete the Pokédex until the next summer!

This alone is quite interesting, and might provide some marketing opportunities, as websites might emphasize that now it's spring/summer/fall/winter, and the following Pokémon are now obtainable--hop to it! It might also be beneficial to animé tie-ins, so that the episode order is synced, so once the game's calendar decides it's now for example fall, fall-exclusives might begin to appear in the animé more often.

Additionally, some extra cities might be inaccessible during certain seasons, or others become available--a city might become blocked by an avalanche during winter, and since it'd melt away in the spring/summer, it then becomes accessible. In another instance, spring might cause floods in some areas due to melting snow, blocking off cities, as well as allowing you to surf this new body of water to an island, or create new capture opportunities. Some Pokémon might migrate to other areas, so that a bird-type near the north might leave the northern areas of the region, and fly to a more tropical area or forest in the southern region. And like some Pokémon in G/S often were sleeping in the trees, some Pokémon in caves that usually aren't there might appear as battlable over-world sprites, but they're hibernating, and already afflicted with a sleep condition.

Going back to cities, perhaps some attractions might be closed off at times--IE, if the season system was in Hoenn, Mt. Ember's little ski-lift thing would be inaccesible in the winter, or perhaps take you to a different level of the volcano suitable for skiing, and then sports mini-games would take place. And depending upon which season you play the game, villains of the game might have different plots, or have different parties/outfits, just like certain trainers might vanish at times-- you wouldn't see a bird trainer during the winter, for example. And before we decide Sunny Day would be in effect throughout summer, and Hail all through winter--certain routes might have certain weather conditions like the one RSE route always had rain, but the game might randomly decide whether that day would have high winds-- high winds might reduce accuracy of some projectile moves, and the intensity of the sunlight-- only if it was a hot day would it truly be Sunny Dayed.

More strategic battles would take place indoors like always, but this time for the sake of being able to override these alterations, and some gimmick trainer battles might revolve around Castform, etc. And like some animals change fur color to adapt to weather, some Pokémon might do the same-- IE Vulpix might turn white during winter, as a wild Pokémon-- not necessarily a shiny. A forest of Sudowoodo might become difficult to differentiate between tree and Pokémon in the spring and summer, but as the real trees change color and die off in fall and winter, they'd become more obvious-- Sudowoodo would tie in well with Bonsly, too--no? Wild grass types would be able to take advantage of some sort of a lower-powered Solarbeam in the summer, and perhaps have a lower HP in fall, to illustrate their temporary dying off, then dissapear altogether in the winter.

IVs and Natures appearance might variate depending on season-- high HP in winter to show Pokémon storying body fat to stay warm, and it might become more likely to see Lonely-natured Pokémon to demonstrate their solitary existance in the winter as they fend only for themselves. Spring, higher speeds, but typically lower IVs, while in Summer stats are typically at their highest--good since we all have summer vacation, right? :D

I think overall the main benefits would be the fact it would take longer to complete the Pokédex, battles might become more strategic as you realize Pokémon with certain moves might become ineffective since the weather conditions have turned against them, and people might want to restart the game and play in all four seasons to see how the story plays out depending on the weather.

Unless the Japanese have completely different seasons from North America, and the fact some areas might be screwed over if they don't have a summer vacation during the game's programmed summer (which I mentioned would be the time of highest stats, since most Pokémon reach full fruition before hibernating/migrating/'dying' in the fall), I think my idea is good-- you are obviously allowed to and may be very well inclined to argue otherwise.
 

hIrAm

Well-Known Member
Exceptionally brilliant analysis, ArrEmmDee, and I completely agree. I especially like the effect on natures, it would have. Also, the idea on having certain areas/cities excites me. I love it. ^^;

Also, it's Mt. Chimney. =P
 

ArrEmmDee

Well-Known Member
Lemono said:
Exceptionally brilliant analysis, ArrEmmDee, and I completely agree. I especially like the effect on natures, it would have. Also, the idea on having certain areas/cities excites me. I love it. ^^;

Also, it's Mt. Chimney. =P

That just goes to show my dislike of the RSE generation, which will soon become a hypocritical dislike when I finally actually purchase Emerald, unless I purchase Pokémon XD instead, but I'm being fiscally conservative nowadays.. oh I stray off topic.

And actually, the nature idea came from this topic, since when I was trying to thing of other ways to affect natures of wild Pokémon, including it with a season system came to me, which spurred the entire concept even more.
 

hIrAm

Well-Known Member
ArrEmmDee said:
That just goes to show my dislike of the RSE generation, which will soon become a hypocritical dislike when I finally actually purchase Emerald, unless I purchase Pokémon XD instead, but I'm being fiscally conservative nowadays.. oh I stray off topic.

And actually, the nature idea came from this topic, since when I was trying to thing of other ways to affect natures of wild Pokémon, including it with a season system came to me, which spurred the entire concept even more.
Ah, yes, Orion's post. I haven't had time to reply, I don't think, so I might soon. In didn't feel like reading pink writing. =P It seemed well put though ..

[off-topic]Did you happen to make the banner in your signature?[/off-topic]
 

ArrEmmDee

Well-Known Member
Lemono said:
Ah, yes, Orion's post. I haven't had time to reply, I don't think, so I might soon. In didn't feel like reading pink writing. =P It seemed well put though ..

Everything's readable for me in the Dark layout, but I suppose otherwise I'd just copypaste it into Word Pad.... fuu.

Lemono said:
[off-topic]Did you happen to make the banner in your signature?[/off-topic]

Yeah. :O
 

Cacophony

Well-Known Member
I really like this; at its best, it reminds me of a cross between Animal Crossing and Zelda: Oracle of Seasons.

The changes in Pokemon locations and appearance rates and the changes that affect accessibility to certain places are particularly appealing to me, as they would extend the game's play time, which is always a good thing. I can't help but think that this wouldn't sit well with everyone, though. There were some people who hated the few restrictions placed by GSC's day/night system; what you're proposing is far wider in scope.

The idea to expand the random weather effects from RSE is also a nice addition. I kinda feel like the rest of the minor changes aren't very feasible, though. Still, this was an excellent post; long, detailed, and well-thought out. Good job.
 

Wolf Goddess

~Lupo Di Autunno~
I really like this idea. I agree that some things would be unfeasible; as much as I'd like to see a Vulpix have a white coat like an Arctic fox, I don't really see it happening.
 
This is one of my favorite ideas. It's rather common, as you say. Then again, you explained it very well.

Now... the typical problem would come in the memory size. Unless the graphics are close to the ones we have now, I doubt this add-on could be pulled off as you described. It could easily end up as the time in GSC: too messy and badly-planned to actually make a significant difference in the overall gameplay. The problem would come in that, instead of waiting a few hours, people would have to wait 3 months or more for something. Which could be downright nerve-wrecking.

Nonetheless, I'm rather fond of the idea, and if it still allows more important aspects to be included without hassle, I'm all for it. I really like how the season could block access to some cities/areas and open ways to other ones. Would increase the exploration and the environments. I also like how the season could affect Pokémon's appearances, and even Stats. I'd also like certain events like you described, or even some season Tournaments in some cities. If it worked via a calendar, having your Birthday playing up and having a chance of getting some Items could be good as well.

Again, one of my favorite ideas ever. However, as pessimistic as I am, I doubt it'll be implemented. Or if it is, not in the sublime way you described, but in a very disappointing way a la Time in GSC...
 
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Ethereal

Guest
I really like this idea. [/original]

I think it could actually be very, VERY easily implemented. They did it with Animal Crossing: Wild World, they can do it with this. :/

In my mind, them putting something like this in D/P would be the ONLY feasible excuse these games are taking 4+ years to be released. -_-


Heh. Gameplay Ideas Thread? Fer' git aboud eet.
 

Metal Force

o^_^o PWNZOME
Well I thought of this idea & it's a good idea realy & I hope that going to happen in D/P.
 

Saph

Rapscallion
I like it. It can also influence trading, for example if you want a pokemon that is only available in summer but at the moment it is winter, just trade with someone who had caught the Pokemon in an earlier summer.
 

AJ Flibble

Emohawk
Birthday - you'll get a call from the professor and you'll get a gift, not to mention wild Pokemon will be more likely to hold items on your birthday too.

Seasons - Fantastic idea. However, you'd still be able to find some Pokemon in ALL the seasons, but perhaps more or less easily depending on the season, and perhaps even some Pokemon would have a move differing depending on the season or something.

But I doubt it'll be THAT amazing if it does happen... after seeing all these amazing creative ideas both for gameplay and for new Pokemon, I'm preparing to be disappointed.
 

-=Darkness of Umbreon=-

<-winning with it
I think for a game like that to come out, would make millions. But at the same time, I think that the cartridge needs to be much bigger than the Advanced or DS ones. Plus they may need a new system to play it. It just seems to hard to get.
 
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Ethereal

Guest
porygon2lover said:
WELL DUDE....I MOS DEF SEE IT COMING TRUE AS LONG AS WE TAKE IT TO THE (BIG GUYS)!!
Yeah, because we're ALL going to march to Japan to protest and demand that something as insignificant as a feature in a video game be put in. :rolleyes:
 

DarkSpectrum

Shadow Amongst Light
Well... seeing as all 4 seasons were quite easily implemented on a gameboy color cartridge (zelda oracle of seasons), then i don't see how it would be difficult to do it on a ds card.
And as for whoever mentioned seasons differing from japan? well... The northern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere are always on opposite seasons..... so Australians... if this happens... be prepared to be, how shall I say this, screwed over??
Japan would be in summer while australia would be in winter... so it'd kinda be a lil off
 

chrombot

The Steel Hearted
I like it and dont like it. I dont want to have to 9 months for something though, worth it or not. The seasons would have to be off set to the real seasons. I dont think pokemon is ready for this. If the seasons changed once a week, I think this could work very well, of course then, nothing is syncing up to real life. However, if it's a week, this really would allow players to able to expirience the seasons alot better.
 

Ex_Mightyena

Mightyena Master
Maybe the shiny encounter rate could be reduced in spring as everyone knows spring is the season of colours...i think.

Its an excellent idea RMD I just wish they would do something like this.

I prefer to stick to the real weather because ill be drooling over the DS if i saw winter in the taxing summer:(

Darkspectrum:I dont care if we get winter while you guys get summer,I like being different.

To make things easier in the game I reckon you should be able to trade over wi-fi connection with ANYONE in the world restricted only to your language of course.Ill be trading galore and getting the code for the dept store would be so easy!
 
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