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SEGA Announce New Hedgehog Game For 2005!

Gravy said:
Yeah, because large blue Hedgehogs that run faster than the speed of sound, with a flying 2 tailed fox for a sidekick and a red emerald obsessed Echida for a rival going up against an Egg-shaped dictator hell-bent on turning animals into robots is like SO unoriginal!

Yeah it is to me! I would rther play pokemon TCG for a whole day then play a stupid Sonic/Shadow game for one minute... now thats saying something.
 
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Jolteon's Thunder Cloud

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Originally Posted by Gravy
Yeah, because large blue Hedgehogs that run faster than the speed of sound, with a flying 2 tailed fox for a sidekick and a red emerald obsessed Echida for a rival going up against an Egg-shaped dictator hell-bent on turning animals into robots is like SO unoriginal!

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Originally posted by: Minun's Flash
Yeah it is to me! I would rther play pokemon TCG for a whole day then play a stupid Sonic/Shadow game for one minute... now thats saying something.

Not really. Just one opinion that playing a card game rather than a certain videogame doesn't make Sonic/his friends/enimies whatever un-original. WHERE have you ever seen what Gravy described before? Now Final Fantasy things...magic, fantasy, combat...THATS unoriginal. I am not implying anywhere that FF is a bad game, just saying, you need to reverse what you said in that one post.

Sonic the hedgehog is one of the most original things in the video gaming world, but FF.....


Gursh, I hope no one gets mad at me...:eek:
 

Chris

Old Coot
Minun's Flash said:
Yeah it is to me! I would rther play pokemon TCG for a whole day then play a stupid Sonic/Shadow game for one minute... now thats saying something.
The point was that Sonic's by far more original than Final Fantasy is. The whole group of people getting together to save the world-bit has been done to death. Sonic is the ORIGINAL in platform gaming and actually started something. Recent Final Fantasies..not much can be said about 'em now a days, other than they're REALLY starting to look like they're only made as fan service.

Something tells me you're one of them kids who've only touched or seen Sonic when Sega started putting him on GameCube. Which really isn't saying much considering SA2's, by far, the most overrated Sonic game.

Had you actually been around and tried Sonic when he was on the Sega consoles, I'm quite sure you wouldn't be saying you wouldn't play a "stupid Sonic game for a minute." Especially considering it normally only takes ONE MINUTE to race to the end of the level. >_>
 
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WinterSnowblind

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Did anybody else notice the logo? I'll try and find a picture of it, but somehow I think Sonic Team aren't telling us the whole story about this game..

If you turn the logo upside down, the weird bit on the end looks so much like a 3 it's disturbing.

and did anybody else see the poll on the official website a few weeks back, asking which character you'd like to see in their own game? Somehow I don't think they knocked that together in a few weeks. This whole Shadow thing is going to be, like, one part of Sonic Adventure 3.
 
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Jolteon's Thunder Cloud

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I noticed the same thing Shadowfax...

Who knows?..But I am still rooting for a gun minimization :/
 
>_>;;.. no one has a good taste xD.. anway it's just a boring game that people are going to waist their money on and stop playing in a few weeks. Final Fantasy is original along with Star Ocean and Kingdom Hearts. Square Enix will always make better games then the sh*tty a*sed Sega. ^^ other then that whats special about it..?
 

Chris

Old Coot
Dude, once again. Final Fantasy is NOT ORIGINAL. Not anymore. Sonic, however, IS. And good lord, you're using RECENT games to compare to an old series. You're comparing a TOTALLY DIFFERENT GENRE WITH ANOTHER. That's like comparing a FPS to a puzzle game.

Boring game series that people will waste their money on? Man, you're right. I wasted my money on FFVII, FFVIII, FFX and FFX-2. Those four games were horrible and weren't what made me like the FF series.

And IIRC, not very many people liked a majority of the Playstation FF's either. And btw, you also proved my point that you've obviously never played anything from the past days considering you compared an old game franchise with an old and two new ones of a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GENRE.

Do us a favor and don't speak anymore.
 
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Jolteon's Thunder Cloud

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Originally posted by Minun's Flash:
>_>;;.. no one has a good taste xD.. anway it's just a boring game that people are going to waist their money on and stop playing in a few weeks. Final Fantasy is original along with Star Ocean and Kingdom Hearts. Square Enix will always make better games then the sh*tty a*sed Sega. ^^ other then that whats special about it..?

Umm...Please explain to me how FF is 'original' if there are the above games you just stated? *cough*You said Kingdom Hearts, Star Ocean, and Final Fantasy are ALL original. How is that possible if they are all the same? Jeez, here ya go (click) .

If you are too lazy to click, just look below:

o·rig·i·nal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-rj-nl)
adj.
Preceding all others in time; first.

Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual: an original play, not an adaptation.
Showing a marked departure from previous practice; new: a truly original approach. See Synonyms at new.
Productive of new things or new ideas; inventive: an original mind.

Sound like Sonic to me. Final Fantasy doesn't fit the above description.
Just 'cause you have three favorite games doesn't make them original, mmmk?
 

RedStarWarrior

Forum Tsar
My only complaint with the direction of Sonic games is that they have left their original 2D side-scrolling format. Of course, so did Mario and it hasn't been a bad move. Atleast Sega Sammy is being creative for once and trying to make something different for the Sonic universe. That, by definition, is original.
 

Yamato-san

I own the 5th gen
Minun's Flash, take my advice. Go out, rent or, failing that, buy Sonic Mega Collection (it only costs twenty bucks or less), and don't say another word on this thread until you try out the games on that. The one I'd most recommend is Sonic 3 & Knuckles, which requires a bit of unlocking (start and quit Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles 20 times each). But if you don't want to go through that trouble (trust me, though, it's worth it), I recommend Sonic 1-3 and Sonic & Knuckles, which are all available from the start.

Edward Elric said:
I wasted my money on FFVII, FFVIII, FFX and FFX-2. Those four games were horrible and weren't what made me like the FF series.

hmm.... I noticed Final Fantasy I-VI and IX weren't mentioned. If you liked those ones, let me personally complement you on your good taste. I find it real sad that Final Fantasy IX went back to the series' roots after all these years, and all the blinded VII and VIII fanboys had to go and senselessly bash it. In my opinion, that was my second favorite to FFVI. But because of simple-minded majorities, we just keep getting more and more of FFVII, VIII, X, and X-2's characters shoved down our throats. Square-Enix is even making a party game mixing Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest characters, and after looking on the Japanese website, it seemed they didn't have any character from FFVI and below. That really annoys the hell out of me. Come on, it's a cutesy game, don't you think they could stick in an Onion Knight or Relm or something? No, apparently, they think Cloud and Payne are more suited for a cutesy game role than they are. Come on Square-Enix, stop acting like those installments never existed already.

Let it be known, I don't completely hate any installment of Final Fantasy or Sonic, they are each enjoyable to play in one way or another, but I do of course prefer some over others, and I'm just as annoyed as everyone else that VII-XI (minus IX) are over-rated to death.
 

Ryusuke Hikari

Rurouni Kenshin
Gilbertman said:
well i think sonic team has lost thier touch comeone can we get back to sonic basics of running as fast as possible through a level, come on i HATE this gun idea, i mean why does Shadow need a gun? stupid, stupid, stupid
It's actually Sega of America's stupid survey. Not Sonic Team. Most people chose the following:

Jak (Fav. series)
Shadow
Shadow of a Hedghog

Sonic Team is busy with Sonic DS. Yes, Shadow with a gun is scary. It's not right. This ain't Jak, Sega! This is Sonic! SONIC!!!!
 

MidnightScott

Super Gamer
Yeah, I saw this a few days ago. It probably will be on all 3 systems since its similar to Sonic Heroes, but the Gun thing makes Shadow look weak.

-Scott-;229;
I'll probably get the game, I saw the video too.
 

Ryusuke Hikari

Rurouni Kenshin
Edward Elric said:
You forget the fact that Shadow is practically EXACTLY like Sonic. Shadow's basically Sonic, only black and has an angsty past. Regardless if it's a Shadow game, he's NEVER used a gun before and never needed one. Why bother now? He has PLENTY of abilities to get by with.
Exactly, Shadow never needed a gun. He has a lot of abilities.

If you turn the logo upside down, the weird bit on the end looks so much like a 3 it's disturbing.

and did anybody else see the poll on the official website a few weeks back, asking which character you'd like to see in their own game? Somehow I don't think they knocked that together in a few weeks. This whole Shadow thing is going to be, like, one part of Sonic Adventure 3.
I have. It's a survey that Sega of America created. Wierd thing is, I never thought they were serious. If this whole Shadow thing is part of Sonic Adventure 3, then why break it down to two seperate games?
 
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squirtletheturtle

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Edward Elric said:
You forget the fact that Shadow is practically EXACTLY like Sonic. Shadow's basically Sonic, only black and has an angsty past. Regardless if it's a Shadow game, he's NEVER used a gun before and never needed one. Why bother now? He has PLENTY of abilities to get by with.

Btw, just because Shadow was created, doesn't mean he's an android or a robot. Look at Myuutsuu. He was created through cloning. That's organic creation right there. The ONLY android Shadow was in Sonic Heroes.

yes it dose look it up it located on some sight
 

Chris

Old Coot
One can be organically created without requiring mechanical parts (cloning is a form of this). You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The only person doing any kind of looking up should be you. In both a dictionary and a spelling book.
 
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WinterSnowblind

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Kenshin said:
Exactly, Shadow never needed a gun. He has a lot of abilities.


I have. It's a survey that Sega of America created. Wierd thing is, I never thought they were serious. If this whole Shadow thing is part of Sonic Adventure 3, then why break it down to two seperate games?

who said they have? notice how Shadow the Hedghog is the only game that hasn't been put up on Sega's site since all the games they announced at GDC?

Just wait. I bet you anything that in a few weeks they announce a Knuckles the Echidna game, or an EGGMAN game. And then they'll eventually tell us that it's all one big game - Sonic Adventure 3.
 

bronislav84

I <3 Catgirls
Besides agreeing with the person who says the Gun should be shrunk in the final release, I kinda gotta point something out.

A friend of mine showed me the Trailer that is unlocked in Onimusha 1 about Onimusha 2. Then he showed me the actual game. Jubei (sp?) looks nothing like the one in the Trailer on Onimusha 1 (he looked like a Pirate in the Trailer!).

This is an example that maybe, some things will be fixed/changed in the final release. Perhaps this is just to show some of the Game?

What about the Zelda movie that had adult Link and then it was not used and he was changed in the actual game?

I have a feeling that the "Gliding on Air" instead of the regular "Booster Running" is gonnabe fixed in the final game, along with a (possible) Gun shrink. And maybe they'll let you shoot while running. The environment always gets a touch-up when the game is finalized, or it should anyway.

All I'm hoping is that this game better explain the whole Biological/Android issue that Sonic Heroes is not very clear on. The rest will most deffinitely get sorted out.......I hope.

*watches downloaded Trailer*

Ok, that Gun IS SERIOUSLY TOO BIG! Major Shrink Ray action is needed on that thing!

Oh and the thing about the Environment, yea it's too Adventure like. Might get fixed, though.

It seems to me like the Shoes are made to let him Float like Booster Rockets while he shoots, meaning that while he shoots he gets unlimited air time. I wonder what happens if he gets hit while floating and shooting...

Oh and in some parts he seems to be moving with his Feet back. I think that's when he got launched by one of the ever present launchers on roads.
 
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00shoe

Coral Eye Trainer
Shadow the Hedgehog... hmmm interesting game... hopefully they base it on, trying to find who he really is (clone or not). But I think they need to improve on the gun... doesnt suit him.
 

Ryusuke Hikari

Rurouni Kenshin
Shadowfax said:
who said they have? notice how Shadow the Hedghog is the only game that hasn't been put up on Sega's site since all the games they announced at GDC?

Just wait. I bet you anything that in a few weeks they announce a Knuckles the Echidna game, or an EGGMAN game. And then they'll eventually tell us that it's all one big game - Sonic Adventure 3.
I see your point. Knowing Sega, they'll probably do that.
 

Dragonair

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
New Information on this game was posted today.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/598/598662p1.html

This confirms some things:
-This game is NOT being made by Yuji Naka.
-The Chaos 2 things from the video are actually Aliens.
-The gameplay is indeed a mix of 3D Sonic and R&C.
-Over 50 missions available. (o_O)
-Sports multiple weapons, vehicles, and other items. (Chaos Emeralds?)
-G.U.N., Eggman, and the... aliens are apparently chasing after Shadow.
-You'll be able to uncover the secrets of Shadow's past.
-There are multiple gameplay paths.
-This game is for all three current generation consoles.

Man, I was hoping that Tikal would be in this game. But it looks otherwise.
 
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