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September 15th: SM139 - He's Born! The Alolan League Winner!!

Discussion in 'Animé Spoilers' started by Dephender, Sep 5, 2019.

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  1. mysticalglacia

    mysticalglacia Alola Shill

    I mean, there’s no reason for Gary to be that strong, either. He just is. The same can be said about Gladion and a lot of other rivals in the show, really. The show almost always has Ash be inferior to his rivals when realistically he should be much stronger, but there always needs to be a challenge for him to overcome. Otherwise, where’s the fun if his rivals are busy being punching bags?
     
  2. Ambyssin

    Ambyssin Winter can't come soon enough

    I get that, yeah. Again, I was directing it toward the people who assume Fujikasu being assigned as writer means Ash is going to lose. That's weird reasoning, especially since it's probably not his decision. He most likely got a scenario and had to expand it to create the episode.

    And I understand the Melmetal stuff but, like, I'm bummed for an entirely different reason. The anime is another arm for marketing merch and the games and whatnot. Yes, Lycanroc's popular, has plenty of merchandise, and is probably loved by kids. At the same time, though, I feel like if I were around ten years old again, nothing would've gotten me more excited than seeing than the finals of the Alola League coming down to a big standoff between this titanic mech-looking-thing that's a fusion of a bunch of little metal guys and this weird, Frankenstein-esque monster that can change types. And it would be a good way to keep promotion Go, Let's Go, and potentially SwSh since it'd be all too easy for Meltan and Melmetal to show up in Galar.

    Yes, the Lycanroc have the rivalry (and their respective Z-Moves), but Legendary vs. Mythical sounds flashier on paper. I don't know... maybe the consensus among kids over in Japan is different or something. Regardless, it does leave me scratching my head. Especially since the anime has been absurdly Legendary and Mythical-friendly. So, to shove them aside for a Lycanroc-off, again, feels anticlimactic. But that's just me.
     
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  3. Rohanator

    Rohanator Well-Known Member

    Calling Melmetal a jobber due to losing to Silvally is stupid, Silvally is an established monster who logically would only lose to Pikachu from Ash's side. I'm glad Melmetal isn't treated like some unstoppable force just cause it's a mythical in the games, I'd almost consider it unfair if Ash only won the league because of it. As long as it battles well against someone like Silvally it'll earn my respect.

    That said, evolving it only to lose IS a questionable writing choice so I'll just assume that this is a warm up of sorts and Melmetal will get to shine either VS Guzzlord or Kukui.
     
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  4. Mr-Nightmare_420

    Mr-Nightmare_420 Just a dude who enjoys pokemon

    I haven't signed into this account for a long time. But this wall of text contained nothing but FACTS that I had to give it a like. Keep the dream going big fella
     
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  5. i2i

    i2i Big Bad Wolf

    How's what Gladion did with his drives any different from other trainers using their own items mid battle like Z- crystals and Mega stones during the league?
     
  6. UltimateNinja

    UltimateNinja ~Ice Cold~

    Welp

    It may be not as shitty as Cameron, but I still can smell Ash possibly winning the league thanks to shitty writting.
     
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  7. Cradily17

    Cradily17 Well-Known Member

    I really think that Ash is going to win the league this time. Between Ash having an established rivalry with Masked Royal and the upcoming Gen 8 anime saga being a reboot, there's no way he can lose this time.
     
  8. Rohanator

    Rohanator Well-Known Member

    Given that Pikachu's shocked reaction in the preview can only be about Melmetal but Ash looks excited I think Melmetal will do some really crazy stuff and prove its strength, but ultimately fail due to both itself and Ash not being used to battling with its new form, while their opponent is literally like Gladion's main ace. Easily made up for later if the writers so wish.

    Next ep's description is most likely describing THIS episode like with the 2nd Ash VS Guzma episode so I think this episode will end right after Zoroark's disguise is busted, and we get all of Silvally's fights here, and Pikachu VS Zoroark and Lycanroc VS Lycanroc next ep. Ash and Gladion should step into the ring right before the commercial break and the whole 2nd half would be dedicated to the battle, if not more.
     
  9. patrickab7

    patrickab7 Active Member

    I truly wish I could shake the feeling that Ash is jobbing harder than Barry Horowitz on a late-'80s episode of WWF Wrestling Challenge.

    If they truly are retiring the character, then I'd like to see him go out with a win. Even if he does lose to Masked Royal afterwards.

    Heck, if he does win, the next series COULD be about him revisiting old regions and winning championships there. </pipedream>
     
  10. TheWanderingMist

    TheWanderingMist Samayo Kiri, Keeper of the Gates Ethereal

    Gary also LOST before Ash in their first League. Also, none of his rivals travel with companions, so they can actually devote their entire journey to training, whereas Ash will help both his companions and the CotD at the drop of a hat.
    This is a rumor, not a fact.
     
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  11. Master Pikachu 11

    Master Pikachu 11 Well-Known Member

    When said Frankenstein monstrosity is also a legendary Pokémon unlike any of Torterra’s opponents that it lost too. At least Meltan defeated Hypno which means it has done more then Noivern did in the Kalos league.
     
  12. Red and Blue

    Red and Blue Well-Known Member

    Honestly Melmetal losing isn't as shocking as Silvally being the first of Gladion's Pokemon to go down.
     
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  13. Almighty Zard

    Almighty Zard He has returned.

    I'd say there is a huge difference, Z-move and Mega Evolution are things trainers and pokemon go into battle pre-equipped with, and if Silvally entered the battle pre-equipped with a drive I wouldn't see it as cheating, but to me equipping Silvally in the middle of a fight right when an attack is coming in like with what happened against Turtonator, imo is blatant cheating regardless if it is the pokemon's "gimmick" because it could've very well fallen to that attack, but was saved by something I guarantee Gladion would not get away with outside of alola.

    As long as Zoroark goes down I don't care how the rest of the fight goes, I do not want this fight's outcome decided by external factors.
     
  14. Mr-Nightmare_420

    Mr-Nightmare_420 Just a dude who enjoys pokemon

    It's pretty funny tbh. Many fanfics involving a big Ash vs Gladion fight always revolves around Gladion being the big trump card that always goes in the end. I was honestly hoping that the same would happen for this fight, since Silvally has had some of the biggest portrayal in this Gen. But a dog fight sounds pretty badass as well!
     
  15. Rohanator

    Rohanator Well-Known Member

    Looking at the episodes Rena Yamazaki's been an animation director in (eps 69, 75, 86, 96, 108 and 118) and the few cuts I could find that they're presumed to have done for other material https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=rena_yamazaki this episode should be good animation wise, it's also been 20 eps since their last one so they've had plenty of time to put into this one.
     
  16. Lord Starfish

    Lord Starfish Fond of owls

    So, between Fujisaku being assigned here, and Tomioka being assigned to the nameless episode 141 and 142 whose title strongly implies that it will be the exhibition match...

    I mean I don't want to get my hopes up that Satoshi wins here and that the true climax of the League will be the battle with Royal Mask... But I now expect that Satoshi wins here and that the true climax of the League will be the battle with Royal Mask.
    And, just a reminder: Whoever wins the tournament is crowned Champion of Alola. There is no higher stage for them to progress to in this region. This is it. Whether he wins or loses against Royal Mask, if he beats Gladio he is the Champion.
     
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  17. Revolver Furious Dragon

    Revolver Furious Dragon Well-Known Member

    The question is whether he keeps the title or not
     
  18. Dragalge

    Dragalge Constance Rookidee

    Assuming Title Defense is in, Ash just needs to leave Alola/shelter himself in his room at Pallet Town forever!

    Can't lose your title if you never are challenged *taps forehead*
     
  19. Revolver Furious Dragon

    Revolver Furious Dragon Well-Known Member

    That would work. Except for kukui. We know he has to battle the masked royal
     
  20. Twilight-Kun

    Twilight-Kun Pokemon World Champion

    ...the heck kind of finals are a 3v3
     
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