September 29th: SM141 - Final Battle! Satoshi VS Kukui!!

[Genaller]

@Genaller

Is this anywhere close to being a fair estimate lol?

Could you also look at this user’s posts in the Alain vs Tobias thread

What that member speaks is almost always nonsense.

For starters he’s assuming that Kukui follows his game lore and challenged the Kanto E4 when nothing of the sort has ever been mentioned or even hinted at in the anime.

Also we know for a fact that Diantha and Steven are equal which means that the Kalos Elite 4 is at the very least on par with the Hoenn Elite 4.

In addition the trend seems to be that there’s 1 ‘top’ E4 each region (Hoenn Drake, Flint, Caitlyn, msybe Siebold?) while the other 3 are portrayed on equal footing (for a tiering comparison a top E4’s Ace would be 1 sub tier higher than a non-top E4’s Ace).

Metagross is E4 lvl for giving the same Peakachu that later made Alain’s Base Charizard (who is at the top end of or beyond. E4 Ace lvl) a competitive fight.

 

[Power Up]

What that member speaks is almost always nonsense.

For starters he’s assuming that Kukui follows his game lore and challenged the Kanto E4 when nothing of the sort has ever been mentioned or even hinted at in the anime.

Also we know for a fact that Diantha and Steven are equal which means that the Kalos Elite 4 is at the very least on par with the Hoenn Elite 4.

In addition the trend seems to be that there’s 1 ‘top’ E4 each region (Hoenn Drake, Flint, Caitlyn, msybe Siebold?) while the other 3 are portrayed on equal footing (for a tiering comparison a top E4’s Ace would be 1 sub tier higher than a non-top E4’s Ace).

Metagross is E4 lvl for giving the same Peakachu that later made Alain’s Base Charizard (who is at the top end of or beyond. E4 Ace lvl) a competitive fight.

Figured, thanks for clearing things up for me. That and the Tobias thread is always a source of confusion for me

 

[ash&charizardfan]

What that member speaks is almost always nonsense.

For starters he’s assuming that Kukui follows his game lore and challenged the Kanto E4 when nothing of the sort has ever been mentioned or even hinted at in the anime.

Also we know for a fact that Diantha and Steven are equal which means that the Kalos Elite 4 is at the very least on par with the Hoenn Elite 4.

In addition the trend seems to be that there’s 1 ‘top’ E4 each region (Hoenn Drake, Flint, Caitlyn, msybe Siebold?) while the other 3 are portrayed on equal footing (for a tiering comparison a top E4’s Ace would be 1 sub tier higher than a non-top E4’s Ace).

Metagross is E4 lvl for giving the same Peakachu that later made Alain’s Base Charizard (who is at the top end of or beyond. E4 Ace lvl) a competitive fight.

He is one of those typical sinnoh circlejerkers who think sinnoh is the most superior region, cynthia is most strongest trainer, sinnoh coordinators are more higher level than hoenn coordinators ( even tho zoey lost to may who was atleast behind 4-5 coordinators back in hoenn and kanto GF's), sinnoh E4 are stronger than other regions E4 and sinnoh BF is tougher than kanto BF (even though palmer's ace struggled agains tash's weak little grotle which makes him even weake than brandon).

 

[Sushi]

Back on topic. Thread looks ugly and annoying.

 

[mehmeh1]

Back on topic. Thread looks ugly and annoying.

We may need one of your roastings soon lol

 

[Red and Blue]

I do hope there will be some knockouts on either side this episode. Cause if not 142 is going to be crowded unless this is actually a three parter

 

[Revolver Furious Dragon]

I do hope there will be some knockouts on either side this episode. Cause if not 142 is going to be crowded unless this is actually a three parter

I'm expecting lycanroc to get knocked out. And then maybe episode ends with a clash between torracat & incineroar. With the winner revealed at the start of 142

 

[Red and Blue]

I'm expecting lycanroc to get knocked out. And then maybe episode ends with a clash between torracat & incineroar. With the winner revealed at the start of 142

I'd be fine if Lycanroc robbed if it means Nagandel and Melmetal have a chance at a win

 

[Revolver Furious Dragon]

I'd be fine if Lycanroc robbed if it means Nagandel and Melmetal have a chance at a win

Agreed. Lycanroc just got a big win. It losing here so others can get some wins is fine by me

 

[Alolan Champion]

I'm expecting lycanroc to get knocked out. And then maybe episode ends with a clash between torracat & incineroar. With the winner revealed at the start of 142

The next preview would spoil the outcome anyway.

 

[Revolver Furious Dragon]

The next preview would spoil the outcome anyway.

Not necessarily. The preview might not show torracat or incineroar so we don't know how the match played out

 

[AuraChannelerChris]

Not necessarily. The preview might not show torracat or incineroar so we don't know how the match played out

They're making a joke on how this league's supposed biggest moments were so casually spoiled by Oha Suta, which is now very much possible, stupidly enough.

 

[RedR]

i think ash will win the battle

 

[TheScentedApple]

So Kukui has Venusaur and Empoleon, pretty cool considering that means he has three starters, one from each type. He has two gen fours so that scraps the theory of each gen and a mega Lucario to rep gen 6, however we don't know his last, wondering why they decided to keep that a secret

 

[GarchompChain]

So Kukui has Venusaur and Empoleon, pretty cool considering that means he has three starters, one from each type. He has two gen fours so that scraps the theory of each gen and a mega Lucario to rep gen 6, however we don't know his last, wondering why they decided to keep that a secret

Where did you see this?

 

[TheScentedApple]

Not sure if we're allowed to post links sorry but its on @AshandSerena 's twitter

 

[Rock Captain 99]

Not sure if we're allowed to post links sorry but its on @AshandSerena 's twitter

And the way they have highlighted Naganadel, it sure is going to have its shining time. Maybe that means nothing since I can't read texts, but I hope it does. Can someone please translate what is written in the poster!

Edit: why only 5 pokemon of Kukui are listed here?? Cameron again?

 

[k6666]

Not sure if we're allowed to post links sorry but its on @AshandSerena 's twitter

Well now I see it's gonna 5 Vs 6 with kukui didn't use his 6 the Pokemon

 

[Revolver Furious Dragon]

I find it interesting only 5 of kukuis pokemon are shown. Now I never believed this theory until now but it does seem possible he has a Galarian Pokémon, possibly something that hasnt been revealed yet which is why his 6th is hidden.

Or worse case scenario we get him only needing 5 against kukuis 6

 

[Doppelgänger]

I'm still rolling with the idea that it's Marshadow.

On Twitter, there are people pointing out that it's Zeraora due to all the matches in the opening having rematches in the league (Dusk/Midnight, Rowlet/Decidueye, Torracat/Incineroar) but Pikachu didn't have a rivalry with Zeraora. What's more, Pikachu has already battled Zeraora twice between M21 and the anime.

He needs to avenge his loss to Marshadow from M20.