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September 9th: PM2019 124 - The Semifinals III: Valor

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Pepito Chillito

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What if Ash brings back one Sinnoh Pokemon but it's Gible and it beats Mega Garchomp with Draco Meteor and Tobias gets a short line where he says: 'See? I said that would beat ANY Pokemon other than my Darkrai' before disappearing?
 

Bortgreen

UP NEXT: Lost in Wyndon!
Leaker censored it, but Animedia has a poster

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10 year old Cynthia with Gible, and Ash with Pikachu and Riolu
It's funny how I recently saw in Youtube a video about how young Cynthia's team would be
The guy called it LOL
 
and Cynthia stans will complain

I’m sold. Great episode. Don’t even need to see it.
Our queen gets a two parter. She is the MOST important female PWC participant and the writers know it. Cynthia's beauty, her elegance, her cool battling style and her lipstick is second to none. Iris might have been a mere 2vs2 stepping stone in the great class that was settled in 10 minutes but these writers know Cynthia needs 2 episodes minimum for a battle with Ash.

ALL HAIL Cynthia and Garchomp!!!

How do I unread something?
 

cricketlaxwolvesbandy

Top Talonflame: HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE!
Our queen gets a two parter. She is the MOST important female PWC participant and the writers know it. Cynthia's beauty, her elegance, her cool battling style and her lipstick is second to none. Iris might have been a mere 2vs2 stepping stone in the great class that was settled in 10 minutes but these writers know Cynthia needs 2 episodes minimum for a battle with Ash.

ALL HAIL Cynthia and Garchomp!!!
Gonna be eating popcorn when she loses lol
 

Yuugis Black Magician

Namaikina Imouto
I don't think so either.

is this humiliation talk fed by those who want her to lose, or by those who feel Ash shouldn't be using his jn's team against her?

cause i'm thinking more the latter here.

We're on the internet, it's definitely the former.
 

sutellakiara

Shirona, my beloved...
This recent obsession with Cynthia being “humiliated” from the fandom is weird
You see Cynthia haters talking more about Cynthia than her fans nowadays.
I can easily imagine them shaking their fist at their altar full of Cynthia merch expressing how much they hate her. It's cute. They're practically tsunderes at this point.
 

Ignition

Traptwig solos your favorite anime
You see Cynthia haters talking more about Cynthia than her fans nowadays.
I can easily imagine them shaking their fist at their altar full of Cynthia merch expressing how much they hate her. It's cute. They're practically tsunderes at this point.
If I had a dollar for every hot take about how Cynthia is overrated, I'd be a rich man.
 

Sham

No longer trembling a moment more
Gonna be eating popcorn when she loses lol
I’m sold. Great episode. Don’t even need to see it.
And now there’s a persecution complex as if she’s needlessly hated on or that people won’t have a meltdown she actually loses. Now the new spin is that Cynthia is this hated character and suddenly her fans tears are suppose to make people feel bad. Tragic. I can’t wait until there’s 60 pages of saying Ash pulled an Ash pull full of complaints

I mean we all know Lillie should be beating Cynthia but besides the point

Why not just be happy your fave is getting a two parter and ignore the small minority?

is this humiliation talk fed by those who want her to lose, or by those who feel Ash shouldn't be using his jn's team against her?
It’s both tbh
 
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Zoruagible

Lover of underrated characters
You see Cynthia haters talking more about Cynthia than her fans nowadays.
I can easily imagine them shaking their fist at their altar full of Cynthia merch expressing how much they hate her. It's cute. They're practically tsunderes at this point.
I don't really get how somebody could hate Cynthia, she's overrated for a reason. There's nothing bad about her

Most of the champions are a complete bore aside from her
 

Ignition

Traptwig solos your favorite anime
And now there’s a persecution complex as if she’s needlessly hated on or that people won’t have a meltdown she actually loses. Now the new spin is that Cynthia is this hated character and suddenly her fans tears are suppose to make people feel bad. Tragic. I can’t wait until there’s 60 pages of saying Ash pulled an Ash pull full of complaints

I mean we all know Lillie should be beating Cynthia but besides the point


It’s both tbh
I mean no one’s saying she’s some underrated misunderstood character. It’s just childish letting the fans of a character influence your opinion on them or how they’re treated. If people genuinely just hate her and want Ash to sweep her regardless of what others have to say, fair enough then. I’d say the same for any character regardless of if they’re a personal or fan favorite. I still think Ash shouldn’t have made it to the M8 with his current team so fast but I’m not going to be in the review thread hating him because he defeated my favorite Champion.
 

Sham

No longer trembling a moment more
I mean no one’s saying she’s some underrated misunderstood character. It’s just childish letting the fans of a character influence your opinion on them or how they’re treated. If people genuinely just hate her and want Ash to sweep her regardless of what others have to say, fair enough then. I’d say the same for any character regardless of if they’re a personal or fan favorite. I still think Ash shouldn’t have made it to the M8 with his current team so fast but I’m not going to be in the review thread hating him because he defeated my favorite Champion.
I don’t think anybody actually here hates Cynthia. Wanting her to lose doesn’t mean you hate the character imo. Has anybody said they genuinely hated her? I don’t personally believe saying you think somebody is overrated means you hate them.

I would argue it’s more childish letting a small minority of people stop your joy from enjoying a character. She’s getting a two partner and most likely lasting longer than other champion besides Leon. And this isn’t exactly at you but more so at the other chick.

It’s complaining about complaining. I agree he shouldn’t be here without his reserves but I don’t necessarily think people hate a fictional character (I hope not) because they’re expecting them lose but going around acting like she’s Serena, Lillie, Goh or Iris is an exaggeration.
 
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TheNewGuy

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I think everyone can agree that it's going to be a veeeeery close match though, so she wouldn't be "humiliated" lol. The only way you could truthfully use that word to describe her defeat if Ash somehow easily steamrolls her, which he won't. He will most likely win, yes, but it's silly to think that the victory is gonna be anything but razor thin.

She's Cynthia, the nigh-unbeatable goddess, and she's going to lose to this guy

Literally Ash Ketchum. They've done a good job of making it believable but he'll still always be that same old Ashy boy with 1 brain cell. Any loss to him when you're Cynthia is humiliating, and I am so here for it.

(To be clear I don't hate Cynthia, but she was never not an annoying boss fight and seeing her lose in glorious high definition is just *chef's kiss*)
 

Soniman

Break the Limit
The Lucario shilling complaint is a weird one. Pikachu literally can’t do anything to Garchomp because of it’s typing and Lucario can only match it with its Mega, thought it made sense for him to Star here. It’s already extremely obvious reserves were off the table so I’m personally past the point of being disappointed by that, it is what it is.

If anything it makes him staring against Leon less likely which I’m sure people would’ve been frustrated about even more. Really happy a two parter is at least confirmed and if we can get that to three? Even better
 

Ignition

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I don’t think anybody actually here hates Cynthia. Wanting her to lose doesn’t mean you hate the character imo. Has anybody said the genuinely hated her? I don’t personally believe saying you think somebody is overrated means you hate them.

I would argue it’s more childish letting a small minority of people stop your joy from enjoying a character. She’s getting a two partner and most likely lasting longer than other champion besides Leon. And this isn’t exactly at you but more so at the other chick.

It’s complaining about complaining. I agree he shouldn’t be here without his reserves but I don’t necessarily think people hate a fictional character (I hope not) because they’re expecting them lose but going around acting like she’s Serena, Goh or Iris is an exaggeration
Let me rephrase because admittedly hate is a strong word. I don’t think anyone or at least the majority of the fanbase hates her. I do think it’s silly to say you want her to lose just because of some obnoxious fans she has. Both are wrong and I’m not letting anyone stop me from liking her. And likewise yeah I don’t think you’re saying that to me specifically. I just find the whole thing weird because people are taking their opinions on a character too extreme and don’t think it’s anything beyond that. As long as it’s not a genuine wish for the character, it’s just banter but I know people in the fandom who are genuine contrarians who want her to fail just for the “backlash”.
 

Sham

No longer trembling a moment more
Let me rephrase because admittedly hate is a strong word. I don’t think anyone or at least the majority of the fanbase hates her. I do think it’s silly to say you want her to lose just because of some obnoxious fans she has. Both are wrong and I’m not letting anyone stop me from liking her. And likewise yeah I don’t think you’re saying that to me specifically. I just find the whole thing weird because people are taking their opinions on a character too extreme and don’t think it’s anything beyond that. As long as it’s not a genuine wish for the character, it’s just banter but I know people in the fandom who are genuine contrarians who want her to fail just for the “backlash”.
Yes but as I said earlier it’s directed at those fans. That user you just agreed practically said that Cynthia destroyed Iris, didn’t take her seriously and nobody can get close to her level. How is it okay saying that but when the reverse happens, Cynthia fans are being hunted down and persecuted?

That was my entire reason that a fair exchange isn’t a robbery. If you can go around saying she’s destroying everybody and is the best trainer (including being better than Leon) then why do you care? People can say that Cynthia curbstomps everyone but when people are discussing Ash doing it it’s an issue

You had dizzy people saying the only way Iris could get far is it Cynthia had a box legendary like Zekrom

When I’m discussing “I’m being a hater I hope she loses” I’m discussing those same exact people and not fandom as a whole. It’s a direct demographic.

I can’t speak for everybody but that’s my take on the matter
 
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